Just now, joemas6 said:

With Cox as the most consistent.  They went downhill once he went out vs Buffalo.

Cox was the vet leader for sure we asked a lot of him to cover for the young guys. But I took the highs of Carter to be the best player because when he was on he was just such a force 

9 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Zero sacks in 3 weeks to start the year mmmmmm 

I'm not even looking at sacks...the edge guys are supposed to get sacks...you get some by accident playing edge.  You have impact ...forcing turnovers...stopping the run... pressuring the QB... making plays at key times.   Reddick was all that in 2022..  last year not really. Not even close! 

Carter and Cox were the guys who were better last year.   The D went south when Cox was our, and then Carter never returned to form after playing 85 snaps vs Buffalo.  

Not coincidence the D suffered afterwards.     

5 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Cox was the vet leader for sure we asked a lot of him to cover for the young guys. But I took the highs of Carter to be the best player because when he was on he was just such a force 

At the highs for sure... the consistency though is a very key aspect of the game.  If you are asking me who eas the best ...To me I would say both... Carter with the special plays...Cox with consistency. 

I don't have Reddick better than either.  Wasn’t as consistent as Cox and certainly didn't make the special plays like Carter. 

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Had me questioning his limitations at points. 

I’m quite high on Blank said it numerous times throughout the year he can be a top S but can he stay healthy 

6 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Cox was the vet leader for sure we asked a lot of him to cover for the young guys. But I took the highs of Carter to be the best player because when he was on he was just such a force 

But I wouldn't complain if anyone has one ahead of the other.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

consistency though is a very key aspect of the game.  If you are asking me who eas the best ...To me I would say both... Carter with the special plays...Cox with consistency. 

 

This is fair when I’m asked for the best I believe the answer is 1 or the other and you have to give it. Consistency is huge I agree but I expected highs and lows from Carter as a rookie just like I expected Cox to be that consistent force. 
 

So at the end of the day opted for the highs of Carter since again if he can put it all together he could easily be a better DT then Cox who was damn good would have been the best if not for Donald(could argue Donald was not a traditional DT as well) 

20 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

And this is only accounting for 1 part of his job and that’s as a pass rusher and Reddick was only avg. at best as a run defender top that with being less effective rusher he wasn’t that great. Last year can blame whatever but simple fact is he just wasn’t our best D player last season 

I’m fine with you voicing your opinion and all…but trust me…wasn’t a simple fact. I saw him as our best defender…even still…after considering all these negatives.

17 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Cox was the vet leader for sure we asked a lot of him to cover for the young guys. But I took the highs of Carter to be the best player because when he was on he was just such a force 

Carter didn’t even play half the snaps. Reddick played 3/4 of the snaps. Much bigger factor.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

but trust me…wasn’t a simple fact. I saw him as our best defender…even still…after considering all these negatives.

It was simple you can like the guy but no way you can make a valid argument he was our BEST D player.

His top job is a pass rusher he was a non factor half the season. 
His secondary rule he was mid a best run defender. 
did he force a ton of turnovers? 
 

I honestly don’t know how you can say he was our best he was a great player sure but last year he was far from our best D player.  I truly wouldn’t hav even put Reddick over Blank 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Carter didn’t even play half the snaps. Reddick played 3/4 of the snaps. Much bigger factor.

Carter played 600 snaps which was more then every DT besides Cox 

And again moot point it’s what they do with the snaps Reddick was meh Carter made plays 

They really just screwed the rotation. Nolan needed to be out there more…for his benefit…but also for the starters. DE rotation was nonexistent…for our standards anyway.

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

And again moot point it’s what they do with the snaps Reddick was meh Carter made plays 

The best defender isn’t out there even half the time? Was a backup?

I’ve obviously been loudest voice trumpeting for Carter. Wanted him over Davis in the 2022 draft. Was pretty singular in my mindset that he was the guy to make or break our draft last year. So I’m clearly a big fan of his potential. Not like I’m remotely against him. But still do have concerns over him prioritizing and focusing in on being the best football player. Still have concerns over him just doing something really really stupid off the field.

Ellis and Bradley are gone from our LB room, right? Both ST studs.

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So no educated discussion can even possibly be had

Why because I'm not drinking the Kook-Aid?

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We are paying like 22 mil for him to play for the Jets

Jets picked all that up if you'd read some

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I want to win the SB

Sure, you want every high paid player in FA on our team for 25 bucks a game and that's DREAMLAND. Others, like everyone else live in reality

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Are we better than those three?(obviously jumping to after the draft here)

We couldn't beat the 3 win Cards 🤣

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Jets picked all that up if you'd read some

I read we have 21,515,000 in dead money for Reddick according to OverTheCap. If you are going to be so deliberately attempting to be obnoxious…at least try to back it up by being correct.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I read we have 21,515,000 in dead money for Reddick according to OverTheCap. If you are going to be so deliberately attempting to be obnoxious…at least try to back it up by being correct.

How do you explain this FL?

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We are retooling for the next coaching regime that comes in 2025?

We retool every year a top contracted player goes away. We have not been so terrible where we had to tear down the whole team since the Wentz debacle. When was the last time we won 3 games all year?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

We retool every year a top contracted player goes away. We have not been so terrible where we had to tear down the whole team since the Wentz debacle. When was the last time we won 3 games all year?

See this is where we see things so different. I’m not looking to seek some jerseys and programs trying to be a 10 win team. I’d rather tear things down and build them back up…if that’s what’s needed.

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Bears were 7-10. How high do expectations need to be for Caleb… for the Bears to be a 10 or more win team? Not like they are trading away a bunch of picks to acquire Caleb. Plus…they have that 9th pick. They look to be a decent team….finally.

Well they keep ignoring the O line like we ignore LB's. Fields never did have a line. I don't see Caleb doing well until that improves. DJ Moore is being wasted there as well

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Jets picked all that up if you'd read some

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/philadelphia-eagles