38 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We had enough before,we had enough last year. How long can Howie keep giving Hurts weapons and O line until he gets us home???? It's "make it or break it" for me on Hurts.He''s turning into Dak who can't win the big games with arguably a better offense than Dak gets. Sorry you don't like my opinion,but it is still my opinion. Lurie's patience will run out after this year after the "tail between the legs" embarrassment he had to endure in TB last year. I will give you that the D needs to be alot better,yet the PPG dropped from the previous year and there is little excuse for that. 53 guys and the coaching staff have ONE JOB and that is to make Lurie look good. Get it done. I want the Tush push to be ONE play we have not our entire 4th down offense. We shouldn't need that play at ALL-EVER

At least you had one solid point in all that. Next to worst pass D. You want a miracle worker at QB. You’re going to need to look somewhere completely different from NFL drafts for those levels of omnipotent powers.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

At least you had a solid point in all that. Next to worst pass D. You want a miracle worker at QB. You’re going to need to look somewhere completely different from NFL drafts for those levels of omnipotent powers.

Nothing "miraculous" about using a top notch O you have at your fingertips

30 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We had enough before,we had enough last year. How long can Howie keep giving Hurts weapons and O line until he gets us home???? It's "make it or break it" for me on Hurts.He''s turning into Dak who can't win the big games with arguably a better offense than Dak gets. Sorry you don't like my opinion,but it is still my opinion. Lurie's patience will run out after this year after the "tail between the legs" embarrassment he had to endure in TB last year. I will give you that the D needs to be alot better,yet the PPG dropped from the previous year and there is little excuse for that. 53 guys and the coaching staff have ONE JOB and that is to make Lurie look good. Get it done. I want the Tush push to be ONE play we have not our entire 4th down offense. We shouldn't need that play at ALL-EVER

Never had enough last year. Never were a serious real contender. Sorry you fell for the BS hype because we snuck out every single one of our eleven wins. I never saw our TEAM play a full four quarters well. Never witnessed a cohesive gameplan/playcalling. Wasn’t ever there. I never saw our team cohesively together last season. 

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Nothing "miraculous" about using a top notch O you have at your fingertips

I thought Hurts had those miraculous Intangibles? We need him to use those now

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Never had enough last year. Never were a serious real contender. Sorry you fell for the BS hype because we snuck out every single one of our eleven wins. I never saw our TEAM play a full four quarters well. Never witnessed a cohesive gameplan/playcalling. Wasn’t ever there. I never saw our team cohesively together last season. 

Yep we should have won by alot more,that's true.Thanks for backing me up

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

. I never saw our team cohesively together last season. 

Time for those Hurts intangibles. Hurts is the team leader,so if that wasn't there you know where to look

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Never had enough last year. Never were a serious real contender. Sorry you fell for the BS hype because we snuck out every single one of our eleven wins. I never saw our TEAM play a full four quarters well. Never witnessed a cohesive gameplan/playcalling. Wasn’t ever there. I never saw our team cohesively together last season. 

WHO changed on offense from the SB year to last year????

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We still have what, 28 million to spend if we want? We added Bark, CJG, Huff (yes I get the trade off with Riddick) Re-signed Smith,added Parker and Paris to at least TRY and get some slot production. Added some depth. Lost failed coaches and replaced them. Howie earned every dollar of his pay. I'm hoping Moore can get some passing from Hurts. he has the weapons. Bark is also an outlet in lieu of having TE2,so that should help Hurts also. IDK what else can be done,It's time to WIN and is expected now 

This has to be a joke, right? You really don’t see anything else needed? You believe this team is ready to win a SB? No idea what you’re thinking. Let’s at least have a massively successful draft with a lucky addition or two from the cap casualties cutdowns before having these wildly outlandish delusions of grandeur. But it does explain how you believed we had the greatest team of all times last season.

9 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LOL right you also said Wiggins,and DeJean and even toyed with WR (which even I did not) You and I both toyed with Bowers after Joe brought him up

You are getting all confused and mixed up. Don’t even know where to begin to unravel your misunderstandings here. 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This has to be a joke, right? You really don’t see anything else needed? You believe this team is ready to win a SB? No idea what you’re thinking. Let’s at least have a massively successful draft with a lucky addition or two from the cap casualties cutdowns before having these wildly outlandish delusions of grandeur. But it does explain how you believed we had the greatest team of all times last season.

We lost pro bowlers that were all in on Hurts winning last year. Those are gone obviously. Name me O guys at the skill positions you think are better than what we have as a unit. My "delusions of granduer" now rest on one guy,your knob polished QB. How long are you giving him to succeed???

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You are getting all confused and mixed up. Don’t even know where to begin to unravel your misunderstandings here. 

No misunderstanding,just deflecting the truth and you are good at it, naming every guy in the top 25 isn't calling it LOL  We're all used to the backtracking and failure to admit things

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Nothing "miraculous" about using a top notch O you have at your fingertips

So you don’t understand the concept of the other guys are pros and get paid as well? Do you get why coaches talk about self scouting? It’s so they don’t become super predictable and give tells to the opponents. It’s so they adapt to how opponents figure out how to counter what’s successful. Never seen a more glaringly obvious case study than last season of why all this is so important and relevant. The book was completely out on our O and D. Never witnessed any player that could have overcome that situation.

9 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I thought Hurts had those miraculous Intangibles? We need him to use those now

Thing with Hurts intangibles is exactly that…he is using them now. Guy showcases them in April…to try and have the whole organization ready for February.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So you don’t understand the concept of the other guys are pros and get paid as well? Do you get why coaches talk about self scouting? It’s so they don’t become super predictable and give tells to the opponents. It’s so they adapt to how opponents figure out how to counter what’s successful. Never seen a more glaringly obvious case study than last season of why all this is so important and relevant. The book was completely out on our O and D. Never witnessed any player that could have overcome that situation.

"the book" is ot on every team every year by week 4 or 6,that's a lame excuse for lack of executuion

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Thing with Hurts intangibles is exactly that…he is using them now. Guy showcases them in April…to try and have the whole organization ready for February.

WOW that's excellent. How about he peaks in the post season and not April?

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So you don’t understand the concept of the other guys are pros and get paid as well? Do you get why coaches talk about self scouting? It’s so they don’t become super predictable and give tells to the opponents. It’s so they adapt to how opponents figure out how to counter what’s successful. Never seen a more glaringly obvious case study than last season of why all this is so important and relevant. The book was completely out on our O and D. Never witnessed any player that could have overcome that situation.

Yes those pros were waving their arms on routes and your boy can't find them,just terrific!!!

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Thing with Hurts intangibles is exactly that…he is using them now. Guy showcases them in April…to try and have the whole organization ready for February.

I don't want to be ready in April,I want to be ready in December

11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yep we should have won by alot more,that's true.Thanks for backing me up

Except we were missing so much. We overachieved to pull off being 10-1. Why did everybody totally expect and understand the OC and DC would he fired? 10-1 team with the 2nd ranked O. In his first year ever being an OC and playcaller.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Except we were missing so much. We overachieved to pull off being 10-1. Why did everybody totally expect and understand the OC and DC would he fired? 10-1 team with the 2nd ranked O. In his first year ever being an OC and playcaller.

That's possible but you had all that time to perfect things not fall apart like we did. I would rather go 0-4 and LEARN so you are there at the end

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Except we were missing so much. We overachieved to pull off being 10-1. Why did everybody totally expect and understand the OC and DC would he fired? 10-1 team with the 2nd ranked O. In his first year ever being an OC and playcaller.

IDK ask Lurie

31 PPG. I don't care if we lose 32-31 because the O did it's job and you know who to blame. The PPG dropped from 29 and change to 25 with the SAME PEOPLE and AFTER the big contract Hurts got,which should bother you since you are the dead money cap guru. How long can Hurts fail until we cut bait?

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

31 PPG. I don't care if we lose 32-31 because the O did it's job and you know who to blame. The PPG dropped from 29 and change to 25 with the SAME PEOPLE and AFTER the big contract Hurts got,which should bother you since you are the dead money cap guru. How long can Hurts fail until we cut bait?

Lurie and Howie are going to want results now. There is no more avoiding it,there are no more excuses to be had. just MY OPINION

15 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We lost pro bowlers that were all in on Hurts winning last year. Those are gone obviously. Name me O guys at the skill positions you think are better than what we have as a unit. My "delusions of granduer" now rest on one guy,your knob polished QB. How long are you giving him to succeed???

Pro Bowlers? We lost two HoFers. But yet you believe we already have more than what we need to win it all. In April…before the draft. No version I have delusions of such grandeur to believe I could explain to you how irrational your logic is here.

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Except we were missing so much. We overachieved to pull off being 10-1. Why did everybody totally expect and understand the OC and DC would he fired? 10-1 team with the 2nd ranked O. In his first year ever being an OC and playcaller.

We got CJG back,that should help the secondary. You have a point about last years D,Howie has tried to fix that. So really there is no reason to fail now. What I'm talking about is the 4 PPG drop off. That has nothing to do with the defense. So now those pieces are back with a better RB here. Your expectations need to be higher. There can be no more excuses

22 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

WHO changed on offense from the SB year to last year????

Seems like you’ve followed this team the whole time. But I guess not. Our QB coach became our OC. Our OC left to Indy. Many of our D coaches left. On and on…just on that side of things you clearly have zero understanding or respect for.