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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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23 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

At some point you’ll understand coaching matters. You think the Lions are even a legit threat this season?

Yes our coaches are at 1-0 soon to be 2-0

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28 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

At some point you’ll understand coaching matters. You think the Lions are even a legit threat this season?

Coaching absolutely matters...but not more than players....

Although...I guess you could argue that one slippery field away from Siri beating your boy with the great O mind 3 times in a row.

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yes our coaches are at 1-0 soon to be 2-0

So you believe SF wins this week?

32 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

At some point you’ll understand coaching matters. You think the Lions are even a legit threat this season?

They weren’t last season...the Rams were the biggest threat...the only close game

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12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

So you believe SF wins this week?

I do, simply because Moore hasn't had a lot of time to get things in order. I suspect Olave will have a decent game

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I do, simply because Moore hasn't had a lot of time to get things in order. I suspect Olave will have a decent game

Who is the SF QB thos week?

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2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Who is the SF QB thos week?

Mac Jones I suspect

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Mac Jones I suspect

Purdy out 2-5 with a turf toe variant

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5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Who is the SF QB thos week?

Could be a rough game for SF,I think Caff is still out as well. if the Saints have hopes of winning a game, this would be the one. The SF defense needs to show up

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Right.. which we know only 11 can be on the field. So it should be obvious that we will now how different views on a starting 11.. a base defense etc.

I mean because of a chart and the size of Ojomo's butt, there is a discussion with different points of view... meanwhile on the other hand, he lines up with his hand in the dirt, as one of two DL that play between the tackles...with one edge guy on either side... the exact function of a DT on a 4 man line... that isn't up for debate...that is how he functions.

If you drew up a 4 man front on paper.. on a chalkboard... he stands exactly where a DT would... in a 3 point stance...but yet some don't view him as that..because of either a chart or his butt size.

3-4 DEs line up with their hand in the dirt as well. It would be nice if there were clean lines of demarcation, but there aren’t. For example, Brandon Graham was clearly a DE in the 4-3 alignment. What was he in Fangio’s hybrid 3-4?

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

It looks like a duck...it quacks like a duck... but the chart says it's a chicken. What is it?

Dude walks down the street in a dress and calls himself a female. It's not the same world as before.

I mean to me, you could say that we have a 4 man front that identifies as a 3 man front. Very fitting in 2025

A duck.

With one exception all our edges are OLB ducks. ZS is the exception edge.

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Per Athlon Sports------------“If you’ve got guys like we do just to make sure they get in the flow of the game and sometimes they know the flow can kind of go a little bit differently and they’ve got to feel it, but I think they know going in what the plan is,” Patullo said. "So if the plan is a certain way and it has to pivot or move, they know that they were included in the plan. So, at some point, it’ll pivot back.”

Brown’s fantasy managers certainly want to see that pivot happen sooner rather than later. However, after watching Justin Herbert and the Chargers gain 318 yards and three touchdowns in the air against Kansas City, expect the Eagles to try to follow suit on Sunday.

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Per Athlon Sports------------“If you’ve got guys like we do just to make sure they get in the flow of the game and sometimes they know the flow can kind of go a little bit differently and they’ve got to feel it, but I think they know going in what the plan is,” Patullo said. "So if the plan is a certain way and it has to pivot or move, they know that they were included in the plan. So, at some point, it’ll pivot back.”

Brown’s fantasy managers certainly want to see that pivot happen sooner rather than later. However, after watching Justin Herbert and the Chargers gain 318 yards and three touchdowns in the air against Kansas City, expect the Eagles to try to follow suit on Sunday.

On why AJ only got 1 look

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I mean to me, you could say that we have a 4 man front that identifies as a 3 man front. Very fitting in 2025

I would say we have a 4 man front that (most of the time) identifies itself as a 2 man front.

With that said, Fangio’s expectations of his OLBs is much more important than any chart designation. He expects them to be able to drop into coverage as LBs. 4-3 DEs are not expected to do that. Nor are 3-4 DEs.

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IMO the KC secondary is the one who will be tested. I suspect a few deep shots to open up ,but I would like to avoid a "shootout". We need to maintain control and take the deep shots when they present themselves. I don't see any problems unless we really come out flat

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I've never been concerned with size and labels. Nolan Smith plays an edge in a 4 man front. At very minimal times...they will stick a 3rd interior DL between the tackles .

So basically...Nolan Smith going one on one with the OT is his job... holding the edge. Similar to Reggie White... doesn't matter the size...the function is what matters.

You are ignoring Fangio’s expectation tha his edges often have nothing to do with the OTs, but rather have coverage responsibility in one of the seven zones in Fangio’s zone scheme.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Matt. . How many wedgies did you get growing up?

None. My classmates were just as critical thinking oriented as me. We were all headed to college and discourse/conversation was the learning model rather than lectures.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So if Q rushes the QB....it's a stunt? What would distinguish it for you is if the opposite edge dropped in coverage and the number of rushers were only 4. Even though it's the complete opposite side of the formation?

Again at what point does the anal dorky wedgie receiving part end....and the common sense of the reality of the function kick in?

If Q rushes the QB he won’t be stunting with one of the front four. They can’t get back into his Boundary Quarters zone to cover any receiver who enters that xone on a route. Either a Safety or the NCB or Baun or Campbell will rotate into the zone Q abandons when he rushes.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Again...a label. What role does Ojomo play that is any different than any other DT in a 4 man front?

What role does Ojomo play that is any different than any other DE in a 3-4?

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Defending SB champs…with a challenging schedule from the jump this season. Very key if can pickup the W right now

I completely agree. Every one of the first five games is an opportunity to make a statement about what this team is made of.

I have predicted half a dozen times that I expect the team’s record at the Bye to be 8-0 … because this is a team that is totally capable of making statements.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s Fangio masterclass D math

It ain't the meat, it's the motion
That makes your mama wanna rock
It ain't the meat, it's the motion
It's the movement that gives it the sock

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

So you believe SF wins this week?

Unfortunately the Saints make the answer to that question, "Yes.” I didn’t expect them to win in Week One, but somehow they did.

47 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Mac Jones I suspect

I share that suspicion.

FWIW, some intel about no scripted plays against the Cowboys.

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

I have heard that Patullo did not use a script at the beginning of the game. Has anyone else heard about that? If yes, any input as to why he didn’t use a script?

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yes, he said he didn’t against Dallas because it was a new defense they haven’t seen on tape before so he was more interested to see how they come out and then counter off that.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Mac Jones I suspect

Who are the pass catchers this week?

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