Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I disagree because I actually very much included everything unlike you. Weakest O scheme in the league.

I can’t even see how this can be debated or argued otherwise even.

On 12/16/2025 at 11:11 PM, GreenbleedinNC said:

And we've been fortunate to not have injuries to our receiving corps. Injuries there would actually expose Hurts as it does to other QB's

Which other QBs? AJ was injured whole first half of the season too?

On 12/17/2025 at 1:23 AM, GreenbleedinNC said:

Wow we already won the SB this year! Amazing stuff!! What does last year(or any previous year) have to do with THIS years stats???

I try to keep reminding you I don’t rely only on stats for everything.

On 12/17/2025 at 8:11 AM, Alpha_TATEr said:

the entire game was a stat padding event. c'mon, at least put some effort into your hurts cucking.

You can’t accuse Hurts of padding stats when he came out early and it was McKee getting the stats instead. Just can’t be done.

On 12/17/2025 at 5:24 AM, joemas6 said:

Nope...it's getting the shovel pass TD which is in effect a forward handoff.. that gets him the passer rating up... taking the dumb sack as he does plenty of times. Instead of throwing the ball away also prevents his rating from dropping

I could care less how the ball gets in the end zone...however I would prefer an incomplete pass than taking a dumb sack.

Incomplete passes…”throwing the ball away”….lowers passer rating

On 12/17/2025 at 10:43 AM, GreenbleedinNC said:

Should be another nice stat padding event vs the Wuss. Then maybe we see the 2's in the 4th(maybe even get a series of the 3's). I think the Wuss will be doing the same. I'm sure they want to lose to get higher in the draft order. Be nice to see some Sam Howell do well. His 2023 season wasn't terrible. Maybe we showcase him a bit vs his old team as possible trade bait while we bring McCord along

Do we control Howell next year to trade?

On 12/17/2025 at 10:43 AM, GreenbleedinNC said:

Should be another nice stat padding event vs the Wuss. Then maybe we see the 2's in the 4th(maybe even get a series of the 3's). I think the Wuss will be doing the same. I'm sure they want to lose to get higher in the draft order. Be nice to see some Sam Howell do well. His 2023 season wasn't terrible. Maybe we showcase him a bit vs his old team as possible trade bait while we bring McCord along

Trade deadline already passed. Can’t trade Howell. Fail

On 12/17/2025 at 11:25 AM, mattwill said:

You hit the nail on the head. Read your own words. "a secured TD with his legs it doesn’t count towards boosting his passer rating.”

The numbers don’t lie. Your original statement copied and pasted below was incorrect.

Exactly…scoring a TD doesn’t boost his passer rater done that way.

On 12/17/2025 at 11:16 AM, mattwill said:

You know that and I know that, but it seems that Ham doesn’t know that.

See technically you are correct. But what I’m saying is exactly spot on with what occurs so much around here. Scoring a TD is turned into something acting like a negative.

On 12/17/2025 at 11:38 AM, mattwill said:

You clearly don’t listen to what Hurts himself says about the SB award he won. Shortly after the SB he publicly said it is meaningless. The only thing that matters is the road ahead. Why do you ignore what he said (and says). His words are very wise. You should heed them.

I totally appreciate the way he’s completely changing definition of greatness

On 12/17/2025 at 11:41 AM, mattwill said:

You are ignoring the numbers. If he runs it in his rating is calculated as a LOWER number than if he throws it in. The numbers do not lie.

I’m not arguing against what you are saying. But you are missing what I’m saying.

On 12/17/2025 at 3:09 PM, joemas6 said:

Correct.... and Hurts absolutely takes sacks instead pf throwing ot away ... that plus the shovel pass ( which is really a long forward handoff) ... all adds up to helping his passer rating. It's a little inflated

So the point being his passer rating getting a boost by the Goedert Shovel pass. How often has he been benefitting from those plays?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So the point being his passer rating getting a boost by the Goedert Shovel pass. How often has he been benefitting from those plays?

Instead he doesn’t receive the passer rating boost because he runs it in much more.

22 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah he is lost if his ONE read is covered. Just bad field vision

This just isn’t backed up by fact on the actual field in games.

7 hours ago, mattwill said:

Ham, here is your quote (with a link to it included) as well as the comment you were responding to. Read your own words and weep.

So where is the fake quote you created under my name? Still waiting.

7 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

damn @cunninghamtheman, that's gonna leave a mark.

the only question is, did you actually forget, or are you just a lying POS who once again, tried to weasel out of a stupid comment?

hello? @cunninghamtheman @cunninghamtheman @cunninghamtheman

Where’s my quote from actually me though? Are you even paying any attention? FL quoted me with all these words I never posted.

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK how does coming out of the game pad someone elses stats??. I'm just a stupid hater though 🤣

How was Hurts padding stats when he left early?

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yo fool, what if McKee went 0/3? How would that pad his(McKee) stats?

No version in the fool on any of this. None of it matters either way what McKee does towards Hurts padding stats. That’s what you stated…Hurts was padding stats. Explain how Hurts was doing this while McKee was in.

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Here's a copy of the post you deny lol, then blame me for something you said. Pathetic

You quoted yourself with the made of version by you. Show quoting my post only?

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Here's a copy of the post you deny lol, then blame me for something you said. Pathetic

No copy of my post…that was yours

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK how does coming out of the game pad someone elses stats??. I'm just a stupid hater though 🤣

Yeah exactly you are. That’s been the question. You’re the one who said it did for Hurts. Hilarious you some how thought this was proving your point instead of proving you exactly completely wrong. By your own words now even.

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How often has he been benefitting from those plays?

Aren’t like more then half if not more of geodarts tds from the shovel pads it’s is 100% a KP play and a great play for the RZ…. One of the reasons we are so successful in the RZ under KP

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

McKee had to overcome bad coaching to go 3 for 3. Imagine if McKee had the great O mind. 🙄

Believe all three QBs benefitted from Moore and Coach Doug last season.

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Here's a copy of the post you deny lol, then blame me for something you said. Pathetic

Where is it?

I know people will think I’m crazy but I want KP to return next season as OC no we haven’t be great on offense but we have to figure out a way to grow OCs scapegoating guys after a rocky season isn’t going to fix anything.

KP for all his rough patches has some good as well especially in the RZ the question now is how do we build on it and make it a successful O all around