39 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

with three drops by AJ…easy drop by Saquan…drop by Smitty….Fred just stopped blocking for no reason.

And none of this is play calling and it has been all year and isn’t even adding in the penalties or Elliott missed kicks…

So yea when you bring up just KP as the issue it’s him being used as a scapegoat players failed miserably and nobody wants to hold them accountable

Lurie and Rosie gotta make the bold move here. 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

17 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

And none of this is play calling and it has been all year and isn’t even adding in the penalties or Elliott missed kicks…

So yea when you bring up just KP as the issue it’s him being used as a scapegoat players failed miserably and nobody wants to hold them accountable

I didn’t bring up just KP as the issue….really ever.

KP was a weakness as the Passing Game Coordinator. Wasn’t ever qualified for that job even. Nowhere near qualified to be OC. That’s just on his own. Simple obvious fact.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

KP was a weakness as the Passing Game Coordinator. Wasn’t ever qualified for that job even. Nowhere near qualified to be OC. That’s just on his own. Simple obvious fact.

Jalen hurts has been the weakness as a passer and it has been that way no matter who was the play caller Steichen, Moore, KP….

All these different play callers yet the QB the only consistent thing and the passing game is always lacking????

But hey we will get a new play caller our OL will get healthy ground game will likely be stronger next year the carry the team yet again with a strong D play and another mediocre passing team

31 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Jalen hurts has been the weakness as a passer and it has been that way no matter who was the play caller Steichen, Moore, KP….

All these different play callers yet the QB the only consistent thing and the passing game is always lacking????

Been saying this for awhile. Hurts is an average passer at best. Dude can throw a deep ball, but his disision making is average and he doesn't read defenses that well.

300 yard games he had none this year even with how much our run game struggled. Part of that was play calling but mostly on him. All year we have wondered where AJ has been but how many times did he throw up a jump ball for AJ who is one of the best jump ball receivers in football. He didn'ttrust his receivers to make plays, he was to busy worrying about possible turnovers to even attempt them.

10 minutes ago, DownwithDallas said:

Been saying this for awhile. Hurts is an average passer at best. Dude can throw a deep ball, but his disision making is average and he doesn't read defenses that well.

300 yard games he had none this year even with how much our run game struggled. Part of that was play calling but mostly on him. All year we have wondered where AJ has been but how many times did he throw up a jump ball for AJ who is one of the best jump ball receivers in football. He didn'ttrust his receivers to make plays, he was to busy worrying about possible turnovers to even attempt them.

He throws a floater or a deep bal, how many times do you see the receiver having to come back for the ball?

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Jalen hurts has been the weakness as a passer and it has been that way no matter who was the play caller Steichen, Moore, KP….

All these different play callers yet the QB the only consistent thing and the passing game is always lacking????

The consistent has been the weakest pathetic simple predictable lowest form of Siri O

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Jalen hurts has been the weakness as a passer and it has been that way no matter who was the play caller Steichen, Moore, KP….

All these different play callers yet the QB the only consistent thing and the passing game is always lacking????

Siri O the whole time with Patullo as the passing game coordinator the whole time…until he promoted to OC this season. All evidence points towards terrible and unqualified.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

But hey we will get a new play caller our OL will get healthy ground game will likely be stronger next year the carry the team yet again with a strong D play and another mediocre passing team

Ever get a above high school O scheme?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Ever get a above high school O scheme?

Insulting to high school Os frankly

38 minutes ago, DownwithDallas said:

Been saying this for awhile. Hurts is an average passer at best. Dude can throw a deep ball, but his disision making is average and he doesn't read defenses that well.

300 yard games he had none this year even with how much our run game struggled. Part of that was play calling but mostly on him. All year we have wondered where AJ has been but how many times did he throw up a jump ball for AJ who is one of the best jump ball receivers in football. He didn'ttrust his receivers to make plays, he was to busy worrying about possible turnovers to even attempt them.

That was Siri’s direct coaching point to not do that

27 minutes ago, capmaster24 said:

He throws a floater or a deep bal, how many times do you see the receiver having to come back for the ball?

An extremely catchable deep ball

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Siri O the whole time with Patullo as the passing game coordinator the whole time…until he promoted to OC this season. All evidence points towards terrible and unqualified.

If the offense has been Siri the whole time that also means 22 and 24 belong to Siri as well both being top units…. The major difference in those seasons v the bad years are we didn’t need Hurts the passer

Also had reports Derrick Gunn about the frustration with Hurts the passer within the organization. Don’t Joyner come out talking about it as well I believe…. Even Shady on his podcast brought up how people he knows in the organization talking about the limits Hurts puts on the passing game.

Clearly if there is this much smoke coming out something is wrong

You can even look at Tyler Shough under Moore or even Herbert compared to Hurts under Moore.

Night and day difference why were 2/3 Moore QBs winning with there arm yet our passing game was so limited under him?

Can even add Dak into that mix if you want to go further back and I think younger Dak is the closest of the 3 QBs to being similar to Hurts

21 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

If the offense has been Siri the whole time that also means 22 and 24 belong to Siri as well both being top units…. The major difference in those seasons v the bad years are we didn’t need Hurts the passer

That has meant we’ve simply been overcoming a pathetic scheme the entire time

14 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

You can even look at Tyler Shough under Moore or even Herbert compared to Hurts under Moore.

Night and day difference why were 2/3 Moore QBs winning with there arm yet our passing game was so limited under him?

That was the biggest advancement by far over all the other years combined in our O. But what happened? Siri undercut Moore after the first few games. Which so many fans applauded as brilliance. Then Moore finally wrested end back control of the O for that Steelers game. Almost assuredly due to Rosie interfering getting Siri to back off. Then we throw up Double Nickels!

Obviously Moore was tricked into taking our OC job believing he had total control over the O. Proved to be a lie. He ran for the worst HC opportunity instead of remaining.

What respectable O mind would take a job under Siri? Now we already proved untrustworthy with Siri being hands off to allow an O coach to have complete control. Only answer is to fire Siri at this point.

You guys just fighting against any logic for Siri here. It’s been obvious the entire time. 

1 hour ago, DownwithDallas said:

Been saying this for awhile. Hurts is an average passer at best. Dude can throw a deep ball, but his disision making is average and he doesn't read defenses that well.

300 yard games he had none this year even with how much our run game struggled. Part of that was play calling but mostly on him. All year we have wondered where AJ has been but how many times did he throw up a jump ball for AJ who is one of the best jump ball receivers in football. He didn'ttrust his receivers to make plays, he was to busy worrying about possible turnovers to even attempt them.

Joe and I have said this for a long time. His field awareness at this point in his career is just plain AWFUL

SF was down to nobody at LB and we don't attack that? 10 - 15 yds downfield between the hashes not thrown to? Throwing into Cover 4? Unimaginative, predictable, incompetent! AJ was right, we couldn't just flick a switch, although I did hold a little hope we were sandbagging - nope! The plan was really that inept.