1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No..he had to completely rename and rework Siri O instead. As in change his labels completely into Siri terminology.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That was basically the brilliance of the move to trick Moore into basically developing everything for Siri.

the offense was in quicksand to begin the 2024 season. after a 2-2 start and 7 turnovers by the qb, it was apparent that moore needed to dumb his offense down for the qb and take the ball out of his hands.

now i will admit that jalen willed the team to victory, no doubt every time he handed the ball off to barkley and watched him break off a big run.

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

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Reports saying Daboll want either the Bills HC job or the Titans OC job over us. Daboll would rather coach Cam Ward over Hurts.

Mcdaniels obviously preferred Herbert over another limited QB like Tua

5 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Reports saying Daboll want either the Bills HC job or the Titans OC job over us. Daboll would rather coach Cam Ward over Hurts.

Mcdaniels obviously preferred Herbert over another limited QB like Tua

Beat me to it. That's pretty sad that he would rather coach Ward over Hurts.

4 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

Late this past season they had to know Patullo was gonna be gone and i would have thought they would be rating possible replacements and be ready to make an offer when they became available.

The "name" OCs are going to other teams as they get offered jobs.

Not necessarily a bad thing as every great OC in the league today were at one time an unknown

I seem to remember the Eagles hiring a guy named Reid. He worked out pretty well

It's not late in the process

4 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

Late this past season they had to know Patullo was gonna be gone and i would have thought they would be rating possible replacements and be ready to make an offer when they became available.

The "name" OCs are going to other teams as they get offered jobs.

Not necessarily a bad thing as every great OC in the league today were at one time an unknown

I seem to remember the Eagles hiring a guy named Reid. He worked out pretty well

Who are the " name" OCs? The guys that were head coaches from other teams that would have been tampering?

Idk that they knew anyone was getting fired... you are assuming a lot.

But to be honest, I'm not even worried. The problem lies with the roster now. Steen will stay st RG...they won't run the ball as dominant. The WR wants out. The QB won't run and is losing the locker room. Magic play calling isn't going to fix things

48 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Who are the " name" OCs? The guys that were head coaches from other teams that would have been tampering?

Idk that they knew anyone was getting fired... you are assuming a lot.

But to be honest, I'm not even worried. The problem lies with the roster now. Steen will stay st RG...they won't run the ball as dominant. The WR wants out. The QB won't run and is losing the locker room. Magic play calling isn't going to fix things

McDaniel and McDaniel are the 2 "Names" who would have likely change the playcalling. There are several others i'm seeing but they look like Patullo clones

If you don't think playcalling is an issue just look at the routes they were running they ran 3X more hitch routes than anyone else.

On the last drive against the Niners they went into a shell because they new EXACTLY what the Eagles would call

The Niners DC said as much

They better have a hard look at the O line Dickerson already said he wasn't sure he'd ever be healthy again

Jurgens has a bad back

Lane could retire any time

Don't even wanna talk about Hurts and Brown

4 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

On the last drive against the Niners they went into a shell because they new EXACTLY what the Eagles would call

The Niners DC said as much

For as much as we bring on the final play v SF why is the play right before it never brought up when we watched an easy Smith completion get overthrown should have been a easy first down before getting to 4th down.

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

For as much as we bring on the final play v SF why is the play right before it never brought up when we watched an easy Smith completion get overthrown should have been a easy first down before getting to 4th down.

You're not wrong and if they have to dumb down the play calling for Hurts there's an even bigger problem

But why then does it manifest itself every OTHER year?

If Hurts were the main problem wouldn't it show up EVERY year?

1 minute ago, Asg 15 said:

You're not wrong and if they have to dumb down the play calling for Hurts there's an even bigger problem

But why then does it manifest itself every OTHER year?

If Hurts were the main problem wouldn't it show up EVERY year?

This is the same thing I say about Dak every other year he looks good. Hurts isn't the only problem but he is part of it. The play calling sucked but that doesn't make up for 2 games with 0 completions in the second half, or no 300 yard games when he needed to take over the game.

7 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

Dumb

A young guy like Moore is gonna jump at the opportunity for a HC job over a OC job

Stop using logic with Ham 🤣

8 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

You're not wrong and if they have to dumb down the play calling for Hurts there's an even bigger problem

But why then does it manifest itself every OTHER year?

If Hurts were the main problem wouldn't it show up EVERY year?

Hurts did really do anything under Moore though. Difference was the ground game and Saquon running for 2k.

Hurts had 14 games including playoffs with under 250 yards passing under Moore.

Only 4 games over 250 yards passing

And he was still willing to run and use his legs which offset the lack of throwing numerous reports have come out stated Hurts is wanting to run less.

2 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

the offense was in quicksand to begin the 2024 season. after a 2-2 start and 7 turnovers by the qb, it was apparent that moore needed to dumb his offense down for the qb and take the ball out of his hands.

now i will admit that jalen willed the team to victory, no doubt every time he handed the ball off to barkley and watched him break off a big run.

Yep,I called it the KISS offense

Makes you think even more about Hurts limitations when Kellen Moore in NO on a way worst roster and a rookie QB in Tyler Shough throw for 250+ yards in 5 out of his 11 starts they won 4 of those 5 games

4 minutes ago, DownwithDallas said:

This is the same thing I say about Dak every other year he looks good. Hurts isn't the only problem but he is part of it. The play calling sucked but that doesn't make up for 2 games with 0 completions in the second half, or no 300 yard games when he needed to take over the game.

Hurts struggles going through his progressions and reading a defense. I'll give him credit he throws a good deep ball but that's about it. He doesn't throw with timing ever it's always after the break and late.

lol we are interviewing Matt Nagy for our OC job why do I feel like we always go back to AR for coaches

to be clear, i'm a fan of hurts, but i'm not going to ignore the reality that he has limitations. that said, i think he can get better if he gets with the right OC.

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

lol we are interviewing Matt Nagy for our OC job why do I feel like we always go back to AR for coaches

Because he is one of the best coaches ever and we like his sloppy seconds. Lol.

21 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

You're not wrong and if they have to dumb down the play calling for Hurts there's an even bigger problem

But why then does it manifest itself every OTHER year?

If Hurts were the main problem wouldn't it show up EVERY year?

No because it depends on Hurts surrounding cast, which sometimes changes. The O line drop off was the biggest change. it exposed Hurts for the weak QB he is, then on top of that he decided he's not going to run anymore. So what's left? A mediocre QB behind an average O line. If the supporting cast is not WAY above average, Hurts can't play, he has to have others carry him

1 minute ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

to be clear, i'm a fan of hurts, but i'm not going to ignore the reality that he has limitations. that said, i think he can get better if he gets with the right OC.

Hurts is fine when he protects the ball and gives you the plus plays with his legs. But if he is serious about not wanting to run as much anymore I don’t have a ton of faith in him as just a pure passer

16 minutes ago, DownwithDallas said:

This is the same thing I say about Dak every other year he looks good. Hurts isn't the only problem but he is part of it. The play calling sucked but that doesn't make up for 2 games with 0 completions in the second half, or no 300 yard games when he needed to take over the game.

It's the KISS offense. Hurts is(was) a RB who can throw. He got booted in Bama and had to transfer to play because he lost the starting job in Bama

6 minutes ago, DownwithDallas said:

Hurts struggles going through his progressions and reading a defense. I'll give him credit he throws a good deep ball but that's about it. He doesn't throw with timing ever it's always after the break and late.

He has a weak arm, he's good on "deep" if you call 40 yards deep. He's not going to hit a 60 yard post pattern. Sometimes you need laser shot passes and Hurts weak arm doesn't get it there. It' why he hesitates and BTW how many underthrown balls did we see. That is if he can even spot the open guy. Joe showed 1 play where 3 guys were open and he threw it incomplete. Hurts is MEDIOCRE

7 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

to be clear, i'm a fan of hurts, but i'm not going to ignore the reality that he has limitations. that said, i think he can get better if he gets with the right OC.

Joe and I were pushing for him to become a complete QB. He played well enough with his surrounding cast(see dominant O line) to win a SB, then he pu&&ied out and decided he didn't want to risk injury with his new wife on the line,so he made a side deal which negated the reason he got the big money. He is a SELLOUT. Ham labelled me a #hater,when reality was my bar was set higher,to the same standards I want from others. He never got there and now he sold this team down the river. He will be fine with his loot. I hope he chokes on it. If I was a #hater, he gave me a reason now

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He has a weak arm, he's good on "deep" if you call 40 yards deep. He's not going to hit a 60 yard post pattern. Sometimes you need laser shot passes and Hurts weak arm doesn't get it there. It' why he hesitates and BTW how many underthrown balls did we see. That is if he can even spot the open guy. Joe showed 1 play where 3 guys were open and he threw it incomplete. Hurts is MEDIOCRE

I argued last year about him not being a top 5-10 QB because of his decision making and I said because of his arm, his vision and timing. I was laughed at but it's obvious after this year.