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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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3 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

to be clear, i'm a fan of hurts, but i'm not going to ignore the reality that he has limitations. that said, i think he can get better if he gets with the right OC.

Every player is better in better scheme and coaching.

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3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It's the KISS offense. Hurts is(was) a RB who can throw. He got booted in Bama and had to transfer to play because he lost the starting job in Bama

Lost his starting job to a high top draft pick in Tua. That’s remarkable considering Tua was well known for terrible durability.

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

No because it depends on Hurts surrounding cast, which sometimes changes. The O line drop off was the biggest change. it exposed Hurts for the weak QB he is, then on top of that he decided he's not going to run anymore. So what's left? A mediocre QB behind an average O line. If the supporting cast is not WAY above average, Hurts can't play, he has to have others carry him

All I care about is his a player can perform with a quality team. All that matters.

3 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Hurts is fine when he protects the ball and gives you the plus plays with his legs. But if he is serious about not wanting to run as much anymore I don’t have a ton of faith in him as just a pure passer

You guys still haven’t a clue about Hurts greatness. Leadership

Hurts was the rare QB superstar that actually just went along and accepted taking the personal hit to his stats for the sake of TEAM AND WIN!

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It's the KISS offense. Hurts is(was) a RB who can throw. He got booted in Bama and had to transfer to play because he lost the starting job in Bama

He transferred and answered that adversity by balling out. Heisman trophy runner up

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Joe and I were pushing for him to become a complete QB. He played well enough with his surrounding cast(see dominant O line) to win a SB, then he pu&&ied out and decided he didn't want to risk injury with his new wife on the line,so he made a side deal which negated the reason he got the big money. He is a SELLOUT. Ham labelled me a #hater,when reality was my bar was set higher,to the same standards I want from others. He never got there and now he sold this team down the river. He will be fine with his loot. I hope he chokes on it. If I was a #hater, he gave me a reason now

Why should Hurts risk anymore during regular season games?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Why should Hurts risk anymore during regular season games?

We really just need Hurts and key players healthy in the postseason

3 hours ago, DownwithDallas said:

I wouldn’t say sellout I would say he decided he was more important than the team.

Siri is the one made that his main coaching point in 2023

3 hours ago, DownwithDallas said:

Jalen vs zone coverage sucks

Cloud coverages against our predictable deep routes is the issue

3 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Joe Burrow been sacked 213 times in 77 games he has played in or 2.7 times a game…. That not even counting the number of times he is hit when he get rid of the ball.

Jalen Hurts in 93 games has only been sacked 183 times for a comparison

Hurts being strong tough and elusive you are trying to count against him

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1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Except you can’t build an O around Hurts he can’t pass the ball at an elite level and he refusing to use his best attribute his legs.

Our top OC picks would rather coach elsewhere then be tied to Hurts it’s that bad

Exactly right

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1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

And Mcdaniels would still rather go coach him then come be Hurts OC what does that say…. Hurts is a massive issue holding us back and we are stuck for another 2 years

"Herbert not near Hurts level" HAHAHAHAHA Ham is INSANE. Hurts is JV in comparison. I still have Ham on ignore because he is so delusional

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I remember watching a sporting game. NFL QB challenge. This was some years back, but if I recall it was Favre who threw the ball 74 yards IN THE AIR. I think Bledsoe tossed it 70 also. Hurts would never hit 60 except in his dreams. BTW Allen had a horrible playoff game but he NEVER QUIT. The real Eagles fans know Hurts is a sell out. You will always have the delusional pom pomers who can't see reality and would cheer for a glass of water if it had an Eagles logo on it. Real fans know Hurts lost AJ, then he lost this team, and I said this many many many times. This is the best Hurts you will see. he is at his zenith which is well below real fans standards. Hurts is a nice guy, but nice doesn't win SB's unless you have the best supporting cast in the league. Hurts lost his first try at a SB, he was still hungry(and single). Howie supplied the best Eagles team I have seen in my life and Hurts had a great game with them. But after he won, he decided to get married and settle down and he is behaving like a pu**ie whipped fool who will do as little as possible. I really don't need to tell anyone this, the real fans saw the drop off with their own eyes. Hurts pushed this team over a cliff and saved himself. He is a selfish QUITTER SELL OUT and the respect I was beginning to have for him, went over the cliff with this team. Call me a #hater, I will wear that badge with pride because I am a real fan,not a pom pomer with blinders on . Until Hurts is gone this team isn't going anywhere.

7 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Stop using logic with Ham 🤣

I'm sorry

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Quality coaches don’t just jump for any bad opportunity. Especially when they are in a top situation with all but one returning starter. Oh Yeah…with a SB winning team.

You can't be serious

  • Previous Salary: Around $2.5 million annually as an offensive coordinator for the Eagles. 

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5 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Except you can’t build an O around Hurts he can’t pass the ball at an elite level and he refusing to use his best attribute his legs.

Our top OC picks would rather coach elsewhere then be tied to Hurts it’s that bad

None will stoop to being below Siri is the clear problem

5 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

And Mcdaniels would still rather go coach him then come be Hurts OC what does that say…. Hurts is a massive issue holding us back and we are stuck for another 2 years

McDaniels and Fangio didn’t really get along. Bad idea and thought right from the ground up

18 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

You can't be serious

  • Previous Salary: Around $2.5 million annually as an offensive coordinator for the Eagles. 

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Over and over NFL history has proven my point. Many coaches that are actually really good…will wait for the better job. You only get so many chances…

7 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

RE Kacmarek-hard to know not much on him. Played very little sitting behind Klare. No clue if he can block or not. A fifth isn't alot to risk. Still I would risk a 4th on Nowakowski from Indiana. Proven guy who gets the clutch catches

10 hours ago, DownwithDallas said:

1 23 G Ioane Penn St 2 54 S Emmanuel McNeil-Warren Toledo 2 58 CB Chris Johnson SD 3 98 WR Malachi Fields ND 4 122 T Drew Sheldon Penn St 5 151 DE Mikail Kamara Indiana 5 179 TE Will Kacmarek Ohio St

I used a 4th to trade up for Johnson in my mock and I like Drew Sheldon and athletic tackle from Penn St. Will Kacmarek looked good at Ohio before transferring to Ohio St so I'm going off that for the most part.

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts was the rare QB superstar that actually just went along and accepted taking the personal hit to his stats for the sake of TEAM AND WIN!

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Cloud coverages against our predictable deep routes is the issue

Yeah he said I don't care about stats. Let's just struggle to win games instead of me playing like a star QB.

He can't read the shallow zone either.

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1 hour ago, DownwithDallas said:

Yeah he said I don't care about stats. Let's just struggle to win games instead of me playing like a star QB.

He can't read the shallow zone either.

Hurts is no superstar. Superstars don't sell their team out

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1 hour ago, DownwithDallas said:

I used a 4th to trade up for Johnson in my mock and I like Drew Sheldon and athletic tackle from Penn St. Will Kacmarek looked good at Ohio before transferring to Ohio St so I'm going off that for the most part.

I like the PSU G, but I doubt we use our first pick on one. But at this point your guess is as good as mine. Nice to see what others have so I can check them out. We both have Johnson at CB and Fields at WR. Interesting

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3 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

You can't be serious

  • Previous Salary: Around $2.5 million annually as an offensive coordinator for the Eagles. 

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    • $5 Million - $7.5 Million+: A common estimate for doubling or tripling his previous salary. 

Jebus more facts and logic. You didn't learn squat 🤣

What decent coach can we find that will actually be desperate enough to work under Siri?

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