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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

More than 60 bub

Agree... that's why I don't think they pay the next contract where BG thinks they will. I think the Eagles sit on their leverage.

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Crazy to even presume Mannion is anywhere near grizzled HOF O mind coach.

Coaches …like I was hoping would occur with Siri…develop also.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:
  14 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Anything is possible but I don’t think the dead money is going to be enough to sway the Eagles from moving Hurts if they want after this season.

The realistic thing is the team control of the contract..... milk it out as long as possible

Believe it was Rosie well developed plan to trick Moore into making a decent start to a playbook for Siri.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Believe it was Rosie well developed plan to trick Moore into making a decent start to a playbook for Siri.

I hoped that was all the main problem. Well..that and Moore actually has the ability to coach. So he got so much done there.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts is still going to run. Just picking his spots much more selectively. You still just aren’t getting that was LAST SEASON

And I think that you don't get that Hurts isn't a $60 million QB.....UNLESS HE RUNS!

I also think you fail to realize there is a shelf life on a running QB.

I also think you fail to realize... Hurts is under team control for 3 more years. Huge cap hit in 2028... he needs to be ELITE to earn that extension past 2027...and to be ELITE.. well, he needs to run. He isn't elite just as a passer!

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

True. Just saying if AJ goes away, Howie could cut bait for one of the 1 top draft picks in '27. You got that kid for 5 years at rook pay, so that would offset the cap hit. IDK the exact number I'm sure you do, but if you could get say Arch Manning for the 30 mil cap hit (or whatever the amount is),you'd have him for 30 mil hit plus his rookie contract amount for (possibly) 5 years

Oline is our major struggle and rebuilding key need

Cam overpaid but…might never be good again. Dickerson? Geez…I really hope he’s not washed up!

Lane done

Our forced third round pick I’m telling you isn’t helping

Micah Morris. The G? I think he could really work out.

Morris…will benefit from the Eagles Culture…set so ideally by our leader. Hurts in his young twenties…stated the goal is win championships!

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

True. Just saying if AJ goes away, Howie could cut bait for one of the 1 top draft picks in '27. You got that kid for 5 years at rook pay, so that would offset the cap hit. IDK the exact number I'm sure you do, but if you could get say Arch Manning for the 30 mil cap hit (or whatever the amount is),you'd have him for 30 mil hit plus his rookie contract amount for (possibly) 5 years

If??? IF….you’ve been denying AJ been forcing his way out for so long, man.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

True. Just saying if AJ goes away, Howie could cut bait for one of the 1 top draft picks in '27. You got that kid for 5 years at rook pay, so that would offset the cap hit. IDK the exact number I'm sure you do, but if you could get say Arch Manning for the 30 mil cap hit (or whatever the amount is),you'd have him for 30 mil hit plus his rookie contract amount for (possibly) 5 years

Looking at so much depth of QB choices that draft. I’d take one…but he’d be the backup.

8 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Just read an article that no deal has been set for AJ. What happens if AJ stays?

OMG…not even an option. The dude tanked our playoff game to guarantee he’s not an Eagles.

What’s the ceiling in Siri O for a young QB(because Siri can’t help by coaching)

What dream you were guys stuck in believing Patullo and Siri would have Hurts much better than 19 or whatever the O was pathetically producin?

18 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Oline is our major struggle and rebuilding key need

Agree,

Need to get a RG for 2027 and RT for 2028.

9 hours ago, joemas6 said:

What if his play is slightly above average? What do you do with the contract?

He’s on a HOF trajectory ..not saying he’s there…but so far he’s checked so many boxes on that front.

9 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Well he already IS QB 19/32 which is a little above average. If he moves into the top 10 then Howie has alot to think about. To move into the top 10(IMO) he would need to run more effectively AND put up decent passing stats. It's hard to draw any comparisons since McKee has not played with the 1's much. I'm wondering if he plays well this year, that he will slack off again in 2027. I want to believe Hurts is "the guy" but he's not very convincing to me personally

What version Of NFL coaching was Patullo ever qualified to be Passing Game Coordinator? OC? C’mon man

9 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Well he already IS QB 19/32 which is a little above average. If he moves into the top 10 then Howie has alot to think about. To move into the top 10(IMO) he would need to run more effectively AND put up decent passing stats. It's hard to draw any comparisons since McKee has not played with the 1's much. I'm wondering if he plays well this year, that he will slack off again in 2027. I want to believe Hurts is "the guy" but he's not very convincing to me personally

Sorry…but you have no idea his worth it how to judge

8 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

My "fear" is he plays well enough to get an extension, then disappears again. If he gets an extension I doubt we extend or re-sign McKee(trade). If they play well in their last college seasons coming up, there are 2 possible Franchise type QB's in the next draft. By then we should know if the kid we just drafted is a keeper or not. Hurts has always had stellar guys around him. It's hard for any QB to fail with what we have. I would have NP if McKee was the starter in '27. Howie has some tough decisions coming. BTW I am not a "contract guy"

You mean..your worry is Mannion gets his own team…why we should promote him if he succeeds. Then we are stuck again trying to grab an OC that is willing to work under Siri. Top experienced guys turned us down. Eagles right now shouldn’t be patiently waiting and developing their OC. We have everything in place where we needed a top experienced candidate.

7 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Not really I’m not expecting hurts to fall off some cliff in his play it’s going to be around the same level as it has been the last 3 years just like I’m not expecting some massive jump in his play.

But I still believe the decision will be made on whether to move on from him or keep him will be made after this season. Think the 2027 QB class is projected to be deep at QB and the right time to make a new selection if we want to go that route.

Now if we draft a guy does that mean we automatically will trade Hurts no he could still be here another year but it’s all be guaranteed at that point the franchise has decided to move on…. Just like if we don’t target a QB in 2027 I think it will be a sign we look to extend Hurts

I’m all for grabbing a top QB.

So everything falls on Hurts? What proven successful track record does Mannion have?

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