May 24May 24 Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:Like leading the league in picks???? That proved he could throw picks???A pick in the first series of the first game in Brazil that was Dickerson’s fault…least moment he should be judged in. Yet you harp on it like it’s all encompassing and defining. Wasn’t Hurts mistake even.
May 24May 24 Author 4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:Under Moore in one season, wasn’t even a full season because Siri completely undercut the progress then as well, Hurts proved he could do all those duties and labeled shortcomings #Hurtshaters had keen attempting to tag on him. Called the blocking, read the D, audibled…three tk the Slot with Moore just moving Smitty in there. He threw to the position just fine with a capable target. Proving that was all Rosie shortcoming failing to provide that third WR option. So bad the team instead was putting blockers out there instead. Blocking WR or second TE only a blocker.Still no answer either on another question as to WHY the "TOP OC picks" as you call them, didn't want the job or walked after 1 season. Steichen hasn't done much with the Colts??? Moore with NO remains to be seen, but he already has his green rook QB performing at Hurts level
May 24May 24 Author 2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:A pick in the first series of the first game in Brazil that was Dickerson’s fault…least moment he should be judged in. Yet you harp on it like it’s all encompassing and defining. Wasn’t Hurts mistake even.LMAO he continued to throw picks LONG after game 1 because Hurts could not handle the Moore offense. C'mon now
May 24May 24 Just now, cunninghamtheman said:A pick in the first series of the first game in Brazil that was Dickerson’s fault…least moment he should be judged in. Yet you harp on it like it’s all encompassing and defining. Wasn’t Hurts mistake even.I straight stated very clearly that seasonrelied completely on how far Moore could get by the end. Said that during the summer way before week one even was near. Obvious…for me at least. Moore got back control from Siri at the last possible moment against the Steelers. Hurts diced them through the air comfortably dominating and taking the foot off the gas well before the end of that game. Great stats…but easy could have padded those passing stats so much more…if padding empty stats was the important metric for hurts. Thank goodness it isn’t!
May 24May 24 Author At any rate done rehashing the same old BS over and over. We know you lick Hurts balls. The other 99.9% see the big picture. So ramble on
May 24May 24 16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:Hurts college experience was uniquely fantastic in some areas. He had to overcome such adversity and humbling character testing situations. But it obviously resulted in him not learning some very crucial elements about the job as well. Just needed somebody to coach him in these areas. Instead Siri shortcutted dealing with so much of it the entire time. So yeah…that’s why however many years…while being stuck entirely under Siri Hurts wasn’t growing enough in these areas.He had to overcome bad coaching and teammates in college?
May 24May 24 Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:At any rate done rehashing the same old BS over and over. We know you lick Hurts balls. The other 99.9% see the big picture. So ramble onWhere is ASG or TDEagles with the Led Zeppelin Ramble On video...lol
May 24May 24 13 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:Right, we beat ourselves ,no one robbed us.The field helped KC tremendously...they counted our DL...the record breaking pass rush.. had 29 slips. You really think we wouldn't have had a sack? Plus the play Ham obsesses about... our punter slipped....and still we had 6 unblocked guys ready to make a tackle on the KC 40...who couldn't get their footing. Really the Hurts fumble was the only " give away" but there were constant plays where a bad field helped KC.
May 24May 24 Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:LMAO he continued to throw picks LONG after game 1 because Hurts could not handle the Moore offense. C'mon nowHe threw two more interceptions after week one…well three in total that season. Two first game…fifty percent you are placing judgement based on. Week one…entirely different O than he’s ever been around. One other interception came after Siri blew icing the ATL game. Our team was shook! Hurts being forced in a quick comeback situation forced that pass. Never should have been in that situation to begin with. Hurts didn’t need to force that throw I admit…but I actually prefer and like that Hurts will throw up a possible interception if it’s what’s needed to win the game. Other QBs make business personal decisions. They dink and dunk…pad stats to cover their own personal buttx to look better. Hurts isn’t and doesn’t think and operate in that manner at all. He bases decisions on whatever gives a chance to win. Five straight short completions running out the clock ups the completion pervades and yards against soft coverages. D will give that up all day long. Easy…but not a way to victory.
May 24May 24 4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:At any rate done rehashing the same old BS over and over. We know you lick Hurts balls. The other 99.9% see the big picture. So ramble onI’m actual just the only guy being real about things. Why I’m semi-forced into this position. I always volunteered Hurts needed developing. Obvious results of his college history. All QBs need developing…Hurts more than plenty others that were first round draft picks I’d say for this reason. Also because Hurts doesn’t match the Prototype QB. But what’s been the thinking hasn’t been accurate Hurts has shown to have proven. He’s redefining the definition.
May 24May 24 7 hours ago, Godfather said:Oh yea. John Lynch is the greatest GM of all time. How many SB has he won as a GM?Just curious... If you gave 30 owners the choice of...You could have Howie and Siri... but you have to take Purdy as the QB...Or... you get Lynch and Shanahan...but you have to take Hurts as QB.What do you think the results would be?I believe 25 plus easily...take the combo of Howie,Siri and Purdy... over Lynch, Shanahan and Hurts.
May 24May 24 FL you attack Hurts stats…along with No Mas. You believe there’s any version Hurts didn’t understand he would become so vulnerable to exacting that short sighted criticism? It was obvious! But Hurts accepted this …for the benefit of the team ..winning…and achieving the ultimate goal of becoming champions.
May 24May 24 I'm taking SF and Lurie out of the equation... so the other 30 owners.Players quit on Shanahan in the middle of a national televised game. Lynch has made some awful decisions. Purdy has done some excellent things and is a threat with his legs.
May 24May 24 Just now, cunninghamtheman said:FL you attack Hurts stats…along with No Mas. You believe there’s any version Hurts didn’t understand he would become so vulnerable to exacting that short sighted criticism? It was obvious! But Hurts accepted this …for the benefit of the team ..winning…and achieving the ultimate goal of becoming champions.What other QB would have done this? Seriously…Hurts has his head on right. He always understood the mountain of crap he was setting himself up for. Anywhere…but heck in Philly? Second time he saved Siri’s job…when he clearly doesn’t even believe in Siri. The organization doing everything going against Hurts instead of catering to his desires and wishes. Yet he’s catching all the flack over what he doesn’t control or even want.
May 24May 24 2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:FL you attack Hurts stats…along with No Mas. You believe there’s any version Hurts didn’t understand he would become so vulnerable to exacting that short sighted criticism? It was obvious! But Hurts accepted this …for the benefit of the team ..winning…and achieving the ultimate goal of becoming champions.I don't attack the stats. I attack the skill set and lack of that my eyes see.I quoted Hurts..." the offense will look like how Jalen Hurts wants it to look" ..specifically came from Hurts.. when he said he only cares about winning....in 2024, when you complained all season. You pushed the blame on Siri...yet you don't acknowledge it comes right from.tje QB himself.
May 24May 24 4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:Just curious...If you gave 30 owners the choice of...You could have Howie and Siri... but you have to take Purdy as the QB...Or... you get Lynch and Shanahan...but you have to take Hurts as QB.What do you think the results would be?I believe 25 plus easily...take the combo of Howie,Siri and Purdy... over Lynch, Shanahan and Hurts.Main issue with Lynch has been done fantastic everywhere but terrible wasting so many resources on bad QB. Which I consider a major failure. But you give Shannahan and Lynch Hurts they’d have multiple titles now.
May 24May 24 6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:Just curious...If you gave 30 owners the choice of...You could have Howie and Siri... but you have to take Purdy as the QB...Or... you get Lynch and Shanahan...but you have to take Hurts as QB.What do you think the results would be?I believe 25 plus easily...take the combo of Howie,Siri and Purdy... over Lynch, Shanahan and Hurts.Nobody is hiring Siri even as an OC…if fired after The Collapse…worst coaching arguably most damning coaching performance I’ve ever witnessed.
May 24May 24 But see Rosie has the unique benefit of job security and has learned over such a long career failing. How long did it take for Rosie to finally be willing to relinquish some of his power hiring a qualified coach? My belief is it took Stout personality for Rosie to finally do it. Rosie even screwed that up losing a season with Fangio not wishing to be linked in with Rosie’s big stink attempting to retain Gannon for just one more season. Gannon was the main reason Siri actually got the job anyway. Along with the entire coaching staff tagging along with Siri. Never was about Siri on his own. He beat out Moore because he got Steichen and especially Gannon as part of the package.
May 25May 25 But Rosie finally hired Fangio. Which meant checking his ego and relinquishing so much of his own control and power. Fangio has control of personnel and autonomy over the D. We drafted DBs first and second round. Drafted Jalyx…so obviously because Fangio declared it. Traded for Fangio previous pass rusher transforming the D. Fangio made all the world of difference for our D. It’s not just the coaching, gameplanning, playcalling and adjustments…all elite levels…he identifies the players. Has made our drafts look brilliant. Just draft the guy he tells you to. Rosie suggests Baun as the pass rusher. Fangio sets that straight as inaccurate. Fangio can make him elite off ball LB.
May 25May 25 Rosie isn’t a football guy. He made AR fire McDermott after a single season. Him forcing Baun at Edge would have been completely changing how fantastic and elite Baun has been for us Off Ball. But that’s what has been occurring before Fangio. Rosie stepping in way too much as the football guy…instead of the ..ughh..football guy.
May 25May 25 We drafted DBs back to back to start the draft…brought in LB and S. Transformed our D. All against Rosie team building philosophies. All before he wouldn’t hire qualified coaching that would demand certain levels of power.
May 25May 25 So how can you witness Fangio and think about anything but getting the best O coach possible? Shouldn’t have taken that…but even the most reluctant shouldn’t possibly deny it now.
May 25May 25 You want elite production from unqualified coaching out of the weakest nonexistent O scheme from guys in that can’t gameplan, coach or adjust. You expect the QB to execute answers he clearly isn’t receiving from coaches.
May 25May 25 24 minutes ago, joemas6 said:I'm taking SF and Lurie out of the equation... so the other 30 owners.Players quit on Shanahan in the middle of a national televised game. Lynch has made some awful decisions. Purdy has done some excellent things and is a threat with his legs.Niners really had brutal injuries pile up on them. But they so clearly outcoached gigs crap out of us pulling off a playoff win they had no business really even being competitive in.
May 25May 25 Lynch been putting together mostly great teams personnel and coaching wise every season for years. But disastrous chasing terrible QBs Garrapolo Fl probably loved. He put up some good stats before he seem to make the biggest bone headed mistake so late in the game the team couldn’t overcome him.
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