May 30May 30 Moore just added to Siri O. The multiplicity elements out of every differing look was an area lost suffering in the attempt. Mannion just admitted sadly he too is actually adding to Siri’s O. He’s going to bend over backwards attempting to retain familiar terminologies. Which leads obviously to Mannion having to apply Siri’s O into his. It’s a whole spanking brand new playbook.
May 30May 30 7 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:@cunninghamtheman all kidding aside, do you think jalen will be able to adjust to being in a WCO where he will be under center a lot while also needing to make quick decisions based off of quick reads?do you think he will adjust his slower throwing motion to a quicker release as is needed in the WCO?what about being able to adjust to not having aj brown and learning to trust the new wr corp?20 posts later...not sure there was a direct answer? But just know... apparently Hurts has mo weakness, if he fails it's coaching or scheme.
May 30May 30 Hurts this, Hurts that. What about the other players on O learning the scheme, terminology and as a result of the former, having player chemistry and gelling as a team?
May 30May 30 41 minutes ago, EaglesTD123 said:Hurts this, Hurts that. What about the other players on O learning the scheme, terminology and as a result of the former, having player chemistry and gelling as a team?It's 2026... what new pass routes or blocking schemes do you think the Eagles will run to where it's some kind of complicated learning? Terminology is different...OMG they may not learn it by September because they don't spend 12 hours a day on football🙄
May 30May 30 5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:It's 2026... what new pass routes or blocking schemes do you think the Eagles will run to where it's some kind of complicated learning?Terminology is different...OMG they may not learn it by September because they don't spend 12 hours a day on football🙄LOL it's not. But that's what it's being made out to be the hill that Hurts will have to climb. I was using that as an equality metaphor… as in what about the other players.
May 30May 30 Author 4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:Just listen to the quotes. Everything I shared from Mannion’s presser wasn’t any hidden secret rocket science. He straight just told you this fundamental and key element….he’s identifying the pathetic flaw been occurring the entire time with Siri’s O.Because once again it's never been "Siri's O. You are too brain dead to understand what a CEO is, but I'm not going there for the 5,000th time. Look it up yourself
May 30May 30 Author 17 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:All that Siri’s O wasn’t and didn’t do. So simple…but huge advancement over our weakest scheme.Just clueless as usual
May 30May 30 Author 4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:I’m hopeful with what I feel is a likely reasonable expectation that Mannion going to install timing pattern throws/ing. There is an exact fundamental way for an NFL QB to go about the process of quicker timing throws.Like Moore tried to do?
May 30May 30 Author 4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:Something Hurts hasn’t really had in his repertoire. Hitches, Slants along with Ins and Outs have been here. But all from the Shotgun.Be so massive for Mannion to just drill drill drill into such a dedicated hard working leader like Hurts as many as possible. These don’t take a massive laser flick of the wrist or anything. Three step drop from C and hit a precise target leading his receiver.All that stuff is EASIER for the QB from the gun. The under center stuff is to make the DEFENSE play differently. I thought you were a QB? Hurts problem is he doesn't like turning his back to the defense, that WILL be REQUIRED under center, so this would be a fundamental change for Hurts which is something he should have mastered long ago. Many reports that Hurts would change the plays to make HIMSELF more comfortable. It's not about COMFORT, it's about EXECUTION. I'm glad he will feel uncomfortable, it will make him a better QB unless of course he reverts back like he did before
May 30May 30 Author Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:All that stuff is EASIER for the QB from the gun. The under center stuff is to make the DEFENSE play differently. I thought you were a QB? Hurts problem is he doesn't like turning his back to the defense, that WILL be REQUIRED under center, so this would be a fundamental change for Hurts which is something he should have mastered long ago. Many reports that Hurts would change the plays to make HIMSELF more comfortable. It's not about COMFORT, it's about EXECUTION. I'm glad he will feel uncomfortable, it will make him a better QB unless of course he reverts back like he did beforeThis mastery of turning your back to the defense while KNOWING where EVERY receiver on the field is and making quick decisions and delivering the ball accurately is why YOU called Joe and I "haters" because this was what we expected to see 3 years ago. QB 19/32 is getting schooled(others tried and afiled) and now he has to step his game up. Failure to RUN on BROKEN plays(for the needed yardage not 2 yards OOB) and failure to turn his back to the defense will be cause for MORE FRICTION, so you better hope Hurts gets this down. With multiple mouths to feed 24 passes per game isn't going to cut it anymore
May 30May 30 30 minutes ago, EaglesTD123 said:LOL it's not. But that's what it's being made out to be the hill that Hurts will have to climb. I was using that as an equality metaphor… as in what about the other players.Because it seems only Hurts has an issue changing OCs. They talk about how many he has had....why it's supposed to be difficult for him... the rest of the team it seems don't have stans who think they are mentally slow. But a great question for Ham...why only Hurts 🤔
May 30May 30 Author 2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:This mastery of turning your back to the defense while KNOWING where EVERY receiver on the field is and making quick decisions and delivering the ball accurately is why YOU called Joe and I "haters" because this was what we expected to see 3 years ago. QB 19/32 is getting schooled(others tried and afiled) and now he has to step his game up. Failure to RUN on BROKEN plays(for the needed yardage not 2 yards OOB) and failure to turn his back to the defense will be cause for MORE FRICTION, so you better hope Hurts gets this down. With multiple mouths to feed 24 passes per game isn't going to cut it anymoreLet's look at AJ shall we? First you were over the moon that "Hurts brought him here". So AJ year 1 as an Eagle-1400 yards, year 2 1400 yards,year 3-1000 yards(the friction actually began HERE). AJ think,ok just a down year because those happen. Year 4- started off being ignored, friction begins to show, then he gets a few passes for a few games, then back to ignored. Another 1000 yard season from a WR who should be getting 1400. So 800 lost yards over the last 2 seasons. No one expects 2,000 yards from AJ because we also have other mouths to feed(remember Barkley saying to let other RB's eat???) Same with WR's. AJ was brought in to be the 1 not share time with Smitty just yet and while some games Smitty could get more yards than AJ that should not happen every game. AJ wanted "his share"(translation MOST) Hurts failed to do this and now AJ goes away. So let's see how the target share is distributed now, but we had to cut bait with AJ or Hurts and AJ was the lesser of 2 evils. not real hard to understand any of this if you have any people skills at all
May 30May 30 Author Mannion(paraphrasing) we want to run different things from the same looks. You mean like the other 31 teams? Somehow because Mannion said it it's something new??? IDK Ham was on Patullo(who had been here for 5 years) because he had no experience. Now Mannion who has never been here has no experience either(as OC) but is the next god. I was never a Patullo fan, I admitted that,but I gave him his chance as I will Mannion. The fact Mannion knows how to play the QB position will either make Hurts better or frustrate him to no end. That remains to be seen
May 30May 30 9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:Because it seems only Hurts has an issue changing OCs. They talk about how many he has had....why it's supposed to be difficult for him... the rest of the team it seems don't have stans who think they are mentally slow.But a great question for Ham...why only Hurts 🤔Yes, that's my point.
May 30May 30 Author 51 minutes ago, joemas6 said:It's 2026... what new pass routes or blocking schemes do you think the Eagles will run to where it's some kind of complicated learning?Terminology is different...OMG they may not learn it by September because they don't spend 12 hours a day on football🙄We're changing "green" to "Gold" Do we have Cliffs notes for this endeavor?
May 30May 30 Author 4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:Something Hurts hasn’t really had in his repertoire. Hitches, Slants along with Ins and Outs have been here. But all from the Shotgun.Be so massive for Mannion to just drill drill drill into such a dedicated hard working leader like Hurts as many as possible. These don’t take a massive laser flick of the wrist or anything. Three step drop from C and hit a precise target leading his receiver.Ham,Ham,Ham you need to order more nutsack polish and a new Shamwow for this season
May 30May 30 1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:Mannion(paraphrasing) we want to run different things from the same looks. You mean like the other 31 teams? Somehow because Mannion said it it's something new??? IDK Ham was on Patullo(who had been here for 5 years) because he had no experience. Now Mannion who has never been here has no experience either(as OC) but is the next god. I was never a Patullo fan, I admitted that,but I gave him his chance as I will Mannion. The fact Mannion knows how to play the QB position will either make Hurts better or frustrate him to no end. That remains to be seenExactly…like everybody else…but Siri
May 30May 30 2 hours ago, EaglesTD123 said:Hurts this, Hurts that. What about the other players on O learning the scheme, terminology and as a result of the former, having player chemistry and gelling as a team?This has been my point so key. Whole O needs to be on the same page. Not just one guy.
May 30May 30 1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:This mastery of turning your back to the defense while KNOWING where EVERY receiver on the field is and making quick decisions and delivering the ball accurately is why YOU called Joe and I "haters" because this was what we expected to see 3 years ago. QB 19/32 is getting schooled(others tried and afiled) and now he has to step his game up. Failure to RUN on BROKEN plays(for the needed yardage not 2 yards OOB) and failure to turn his back to the defense will be cause for MORE FRICTION, so you better hope Hurts gets this down. With multiple mouths to feed 24 passes per game isn't going to cut it anymoreSiri controlled what you compliant about in fact
May 30May 30 Author 10 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:This has been my point so key. Whole O needs to be on the same page. Not just one guy.Then stop the whining that Hurts has had a new OC every year, because..................... so has EVERYONE ELSE and they seem to all have no problems learning, but somehow Hurts is handicapped?
May 30May 30 Bell likely to get lots of reps this offseason with Lane coming off injury. Kind of shocking but a good sign that Bell is getting the first team reps over Fred Johnson though while Lane is out.Curious if Bell will end up being the first man up if/when Lane missing some time this season
May 30May 30 Bell should also play a lot in the preseason as well image Lane will play very little if he plays at all.
May 31May 31 9 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:Then stop the whining that Hurts has had a new OC every year, because..................... so has EVERYONE ELSE and they seem to all have no problems learning, but somehow Hurts is handicapped?How can you say they’ve had no problems learning? See …right there…just pure #Hurthate…it’s everyone having to be on the same page…not just a Hurts issue.
May 31May 31 Just now, cunninghamtheman said:How can you say they’ve had no problems learning? See …right there…just pure #Hurthate…it’s everyone having to be on the same page…not just a Hurts issue.In fact it was the Oline in the Super Season that came asking Siri that they would benefit so much sticking with the much easier rushing attack. The new O combined with the revolving rotating pieces across the Oline early …it wasn’t just one backup Oline guy that played…it was several. Pass blocking in the new O was not going smoothly. Hard enough just to get the five starters geling working together seemlessly as one.
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