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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

It can work both ways really. We’ve been burned hard with plenty of dead money doing things early also.

Plus….if you do sign guys for a bargain long term early? They end up being disgruntled feeling underpaid. So situations occur from that negatively.

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Plus….if you do sign guys for a bargain long term early? They end up being disgruntled feeling underpaid. So situations occur from that negatively.

Plus everybody knows the book on Rosie is signing early. So if he doesn’t? Then it won’t be coming.

21 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Agreed, he would have been the only distraction via contract. They showed they want him, first denying Cleveland from getting him in a possible trade for Garrett. Clearly making it known he was off limits. Extending the 5th year option and now extending him 4 more years.

I believe he is the only one extended that far at the moment.

Next year they do the same with Mitchell and they can extend him to 2032.

Wrong! You believed the smoke. He was the only guy possible to be involved in the trade for Garrett. Browns chose Verse over Carter.

20 hours ago, joemas6 said:

That's going to be interesting, because I'm not sure they can afford to keep both Smith and Hunt. Might still see Smith in a trade.

Nolan trade value at its all time low. Look….you don’t sell at lowest value points. Nolan much better than being valued. Likely will be a very significant player for us even.

20 hours ago, joemas6 said:

That's going to be interesting, because I'm not sure they can afford to keep both Smith and Hunt. Might still see Smith in a trade.

Hunt is going nowhere! This cat is a BEAST!

20 hours ago, Senhorcook said:

Joe, right on. Enjoyed reading this insight and your thoughts on this.

I’m a year older at 55. BIG Dr. J fan as a kid! I was really excited (but too young to appreciate it) when the Sixers finally won it all. I lived through so many years of losing Eagles football. So when they finally won the Super Bowl in my late 40’s…..oh man, I went bizurko! It was such a memorable moment! You guys may understand, but most people thought/think I am a fool when it comes to my passion for the Eagles….living in Idaho…growing up in Idaho.

I was so excited for Wentz as after that year he led them to enough wins to lock up home field advantage; I thought he would be a superstar QB for years and years. And yet he wasn’t. McNabb and Hurts are good and I’m super grateful Hurts helped the team win a Super Bowl. I just don’t get excited about his passing prowess. McNabb could NOT hit a crossing route in stride to save his life. Hurts wont even throw the ball in the middle of the field…and when he does, it looks late or slow or the wrong read half the time. Yes, I am over generalizing, but I hope readers here can get my point. I don’t mean to "bash” Hurts. Hurts is a slightly better than average QB…as long as he threatens a defense with his legs. If not, he is simply below average. I am NOT a QB whisperer. I have never played the position at any level beyond little kid football. But I did coach with some very intelligent former QBs and learned a LOT from them. Point being I am NOT an expert and don’t claim to be. Watching Hurts play, he NEEDS to use his legs to excel at his best. I like Hurts. Don’t want Cunningham to think I don’t. I would would prefer a Joe Burrow. Josh Allen. Justin Herbert….dare I say Patrick Mahomes. Reality sets in. There are only four of those guys and their teams are not letting them out the door. So we ride with Hurts. I just want him to use his legs so he can be the best he can be.

I’m not blind. I just stand out believing our O has been embarrassing from Siri. He can’t teach…which I call coach. Passing Game Coirdinator been his right hand puppet Patullo.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m not blind. I just stand out believing our O has been embarrassing from Siri. He can’t teach…which I call coach. Passing Game Coirdinator been his right hand puppet Patullo.

These two haven’t…CAN’T develop a franchise QB

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

These two haven’t…CAN’T develop a franchise QB

That’s where nothing has ever changed for Hurts.

20 hours ago, EaglesTD123 said:

LOL thanks for making me laugh! I was just asking, but I do agree. The way Howie runs this team trickles down to the sustained competitiveness.

If my neighbor is having Trix, let's just say I won't be having Fruit Loops.

It’s been the good and bad. Mostly good. But my complaints surrounded his little negative holdups. He wouldn’t relinquish power by hiring anybody qualified to demand any power as a coach.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s been the good and bad. Mostly good. But my complaints surrounded his little negative holdups. He wouldn’t relinquish power by hiring anybody qualified to demand any power as a coach.

Rosie believing he’s a football guy. His ego.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Rosie believing he’s a football guy. His ego.

Hired Fangio. Which he screwed up even. But everything finally changed. Fangio needed LBs. He drafted DBs high back to back to back.

16 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Great post. Here's the deal. Hurts will be forced to throw in the middle now or moving to get Lemon will be a waste of talent. Hurts has no excuses left. Key for me will be if Wicks can show out so teams can't DT Smitty. Lemon is a real threat if used correctly. Hurts needs to move into the top 10 IMO. It's a tall order if the running game is working. I'm not going to whine about AJ. Wicks just needs to take this opportunity he didn't have in GB. We have hit page 3,000 even though I deleted alot of my early posts 🤣

Yes …let’s see what happens. Imposing you and Cook labeling Hurts deficient throwing over the middle. Well it’s actually fair coming out of college. He was running a Spread. So wasn’t really targeting middle as much…TEs. Plus he isn’t prototype size. That’s the disadvantage. Natural limitation for him. Especially behind our monster huge mountain sized Oline.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes …let’s see what happens. Imposing you and Cook labeling Hurts deficient throwing over the middle. Well it’s actually fair coming out of college. He was running a Spread. So wasn’t really targeting middle as much…TEs. Plus he isn’t prototype size. That’s the disadvantage. Natural limitation for him. Especially behind our monster huge mountain sized Oline.

But ….really the issue mostly been Rosie short coming. Siri crap O to blame also. Rosie couldn’t find that easiest piece left of the roster puzzle in a third WR. Heck…second WR…in my book.

So if you have a WR known for blocking? Or a second TE known for blocking? How much receiving production could be expected?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So if you have a WR known for blocking? Or a second TE known for blocking? How much receiving production could be expected?

Let’s see what happens. I’d maintained this exact stance the entire time. So if you guys are right? While I’ve been wrong? Then Hurts still won’t produce over the middle.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Let’s see what happens. I’d maintained this exact stance the entire time. So if you guys are right? While I’ve been wrong? Then Hurts still won’t produce over the middle.

Yet my belief this entire time surrounds Siri unqualified terrible O mind. While Rosie failed to provide middle options to get production from.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Yet my belief this entire time surrounds Siri unqualified terrible O mind. While Rosie failed to provide middle options to get production from.

Let’s just watch Hurts throw to Lemon. Just lacked capable options and personnel. Rosie fault…not Hurts.

We already saw the answer provided. Moore just moved Smitty inside occasionally, Then what you know? Hurts produced in the middle.

How is something just so glaringly obvious to me completely missed by most all posters here?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

How is something just so glaringly obvious to me completely missed by most all posters here?

No guy capable of producing…here…or anywhere any of the dozens and dozens of attempts Rosie and Siri tried all these years.

Heck…Siri had no O. Completely relied on our athletes to overcome and produce in weakest conditions.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Heck…Siri had no O. Completely relied on our athletes to overcome and produce in weakest conditions.

Hurts escape…buy time….so Smitty or AJ can get open. That was our O.

20 hours ago, Senhorcook said:

Joe, right on. Enjoyed reading this insight and your thoughts on this.

I’m a year older at 55. BIG Dr. J fan as a kid! I was really excited (but too young to appreciate it) when the Sixers finally won it all. I lived through so many years of losing Eagles football. So when they finally won the Super Bowl in my late 40’s…..oh man, I went bizurko! It was such a memorable moment! You guys may understand, but most people thought/think I am a fool when it comes to my passion for the Eagles….living in Idaho…growing up in Idaho.

I was so excited for Wentz as after that year he led them to enough wins to lock up home field advantage; I thought he would be a superstar QB for years and years. And yet he wasn’t. McNabb and Hurts are good and I’m super grateful Hurts helped the team win a Super Bowl. I just don’t get excited about his passing prowess. McNabb could NOT hit a crossing route in stride to save his life. Hurts wont even throw the ball in the middle of the field…and when he does, it looks late or slow or the wrong read half the time. Yes, I am over generalizing, but I hope readers here can get my point. I don’t mean to "bash” Hurts. Hurts is a slightly better than average QB…as long as he threatens a defense with his legs. If not, he is simply below average. I am NOT a QB whisperer. I have never played the position at any level beyond little kid football. But I did coach with some very intelligent former QBs and learned a LOT from them. Point being I am NOT an expert and don’t claim to be. Watching Hurts play, he NEEDS to use his legs to excel at his best. I like Hurts. Don’t want Cunningham to think I don’t. I would would prefer a Joe Burrow. Josh Allen. Justin Herbert….dare I say Patrick Mahomes. Reality sets in. There are only four of those guys and their teams are not letting them out the door. So we ride with Hurts. I just want him to use his legs so he can be the best he can be.

Every other team invests in developing franchise QB. Read up on Sean Peyton completely mapping out his huge grand plan for Nix to have a chance.

14 hours ago, EaglesTD123 said:

I'm anxious to see progress from Johnny Wilson.

And OF COURSE the D. Good D, along with fireworks from the O really gets me fired up.

E-L-G-S-E-S…ELGSES!

Will he make the team?

9 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

nobody cares what you think. even the 1% of the time when you're right.

My track record stands out head and shoulders above. Undeniable…unless you flat out just are false.

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