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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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8 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

Grenard to the PUP with a Pec.

Crap…that’s a huge blow

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6 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Years past that would have been the talk of the town along with Carter's contract... still talking Sixers and Phillies... was just a side note this morning. The high paid new DE injuring himself lifting and barely a mention.

Odd times here

Opposite of my thinking. I’m Eagles fan!

5 hours ago, capmaster24 said:

Wow, you can really see how the Eagles have gotten way ahead of the market here at the interior DL position. You look at Davis and Carter in comparison to the rest of the league. You see their younger ages. You see their lower cap hits. Carter is playing the next 6 years at $30.6 mil per. From age 25 to age 30! Compare that to Simmons who is playing the next 5 years at $32 mil from ages 29 to 33.

Then you look at Davis compared to our former DT Milton Williams. Supposedly both at $26 mil per? Williams is playing the next 3 years with $89.5 mil cap hit at ages 27 to 29. Davis is playing the next 4 years at $46.5 mil cap hit, ages 26-29. Even with the void year bringing Davis up to $90 mil, that's 2030, Williams is there by 2028.

You are seeing the Eagles pay today's price, but not until 2 years into the future. This is the advantage of doing contracts early. They either set the market with a new #, or they pay today's established #, but not until 2 years later.

Carter, they set the market with a new # at $38 mil per. But it won't kick in until 2028. Now the next player who surpasses that will actually start before Carter, by the time 2028 rolls around guys will be over $40 mil.

Davis, compare that to Williams. Williams got 4 years at $26 mil per, from 2025 to 2028. Davis was given the same amount on an extension, that doesn't start until 2027. 2 years after Williams.

In both cases, our DTs are younger, the whole time they will be playing these deals until age 29 for Davis and 30 for Carter. That puts them in prime spot to extend a final deal or to release them, either way saving more cap. Getting ahead of the game. We should expect the same with the CBs next year. Probably DeJean first.

https://overthecap.com/player/jordan-davis/10058

https://overthecap.com/player/jalen-carter/10833

https://overthecap.com/position/interior-defensive-line

https://overthecap.com/player/milton-williams/9537

https://overthecap.com/player/jeffery-simmons/7810

Overpaying Davis so much because he finally worked out wasn’t great.

5 hours ago, capmaster24 said:

Wow, you can really see how the Eagles have gotten way ahead of the market here at the interior DL position. You look at Davis and Carter in comparison to the rest of the league. You see their younger ages. You see their lower cap hits. Carter is playing the next 6 years at $30.6 mil per. From age 25 to age 30! Compare that to Simmons who is playing the next 5 years at $32 mil from ages 29 to 33.

Then you look at Davis compared to our former DT Milton Williams. Supposedly both at $26 mil per? Williams is playing the next 3 years with $89.5 mil cap hit at ages 27 to 29. Davis is playing the next 4 years at $46.5 mil cap hit, ages 26-29. Even with the void year bringing Davis up to $90 mil, that's 2030, Williams is there by 2028.

You are seeing the Eagles pay today's price, but not until 2 years into the future. This is the advantage of doing contracts early. They either set the market with a new #, or they pay today's established #, but not until 2 years later.

Carter, they set the market with a new # at $38 mil per. But it won't kick in until 2028. Now the next player who surpasses that will actually start before Carter, by the time 2028 rolls around guys will be over $40 mil.

Davis, compare that to Williams. Williams got 4 years at $26 mil per, from 2025 to 2028. Davis was given the same amount on an extension, that doesn't start until 2027. 2 years after Williams.

In both cases, our DTs are younger, the whole time they will be playing these deals until age 29 for Davis and 30 for Carter. That puts them in prime spot to extend a final deal or to release them, either way saving more cap. Getting ahead of the game. We should expect the same with the CBs next year. Probably DeJean first.

https://overthecap.com/player/jordan-davis/10058

https://overthecap.com/player/jalen-carter/10833

https://overthecap.com/position/interior-defensive-line

https://overthecap.com/player/milton-williams/9537

https://overthecap.com/player/jeffery-simmons/7810

Our Dline coach called out Carter for coming in out of shape. Then he spit getting kicked out of our highest rivalry division game before it started. Then clearly suffers possible career suffering shoulder injuries resulting likely from his slack prep as a pro.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Our Dline coach called out Carter for coming in out of shape. Then he spit getting kicked out of our highest rivalry division game before it started. Then clearly suffers possible career suffering shoulder injuries resulting likely from his slack prep as a pro.

So Carter slacks off….yet we make our super high longer term investment player for our franchise. That’s sketchy!

5 hours ago, capmaster24 said:

Wow, you can really see how the Eagles have gotten way ahead of the market here at the interior DL position. You look at Davis and Carter in comparison to the rest of the league. You see their younger ages. You see their lower cap hits. Carter is playing the next 6 years at $30.6 mil per. From age 25 to age 30! Compare that to Simmons who is playing the next 5 years at $32 mil from ages 29 to 33.

Then you look at Davis compared to our former DT Milton Williams. Supposedly both at $26 mil per? Williams is playing the next 3 years with $89.5 mil cap hit at ages 27 to 29. Davis is playing the next 4 years at $46.5 mil cap hit, ages 26-29. Even with the void year bringing Davis up to $90 mil, that's 2030, Williams is there by 2028.

You are seeing the Eagles pay today's price, but not until 2 years into the future. This is the advantage of doing contracts early. They either set the market with a new #, or they pay today's established #, but not until 2 years later.

Carter, they set the market with a new # at $38 mil per. But it won't kick in until 2028. Now the next player who surpasses that will actually start before Carter, by the time 2028 rolls around guys will be over $40 mil.

Davis, compare that to Williams. Williams got 4 years at $26 mil per, from 2025 to 2028. Davis was given the same amount on an extension, that doesn't start until 2027. 2 years after Williams.

In both cases, our DTs are younger, the whole time they will be playing these deals until age 29 for Davis and 30 for Carter. That puts them in prime spot to extend a final deal or to release them, either way saving more cap. Getting ahead of the game. We should expect the same with the CBs next year. Probably DeJean first.

https://overthecap.com/player/jordan-davis/10058

https://overthecap.com/player/jalen-carter/10833

https://overthecap.com/position/interior-defensive-line

https://overthecap.com/player/milton-williams/9537

https://overthecap.com/player/jeffery-simmons/7810

Basically overpaid Jurgens and Davis back to back….early. That’s not a positive.

4 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

If we get Davis playing like he did last year and a healthy Carter not sure how you stop them it is a scary interior.

Don’t think we have that stud edge rusher but great depth. Greenard is supposed to be really good and I truly think Hunt might be our best edge especially if he can take that next step.

Nolan/Ebiketie/ Epenesa 3 pass rushers with experience

Davis wasn’t even top DT playing. He’s a run stopper. Entire optimism surrounding him hopefully just working out like a pro consistently….for so many massive millions.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Davis wasn’t even top DT playing. He’s a run stopper. Entire optimism surrounding him hopefully just working out like a pro consistently….for so many massive millions.

Ojomo logged the most snaps at DT last season. He was the wrecking ball penetrator. Run stoppers don’t command huge money in the NFL. Loot prioritized towards pass rushing. Instead we setup to lose another stud diamond in the rough rushing DT. Ojomo bout collar had to earn it. Like everything. Late round pick(my guy)…yet they couldn’t stop him from succeeding.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Ojomo logged the most snaps at DT last season. He was the wrecking ball penetrator. Run stoppers don’t command huge money in the NFL. Loot prioritized towards pass rushing. Instead we setup to lose another stud diamond in the rough rushing DT. Ojomo bout collar had to earn it. Like everything. Late round pick(my guy)…yet they couldn’t stop him from succeeding.

Ojomo worked his butt off to accomplish everything, Milton too really. Davis you celebrate throwing massive money towards just because he finally decided to work out.

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Ojomo worked his butt off to accomplish everything, Milton too really. Davis you celebrate throwing massive money towards just because he finally decided to work out.

Still…best season for Davis by far as super high draft pick….and Ojomo even played more than him.

4 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

If we get Davis playing like he did last year and a healthy Carter not sure how you stop them it is a scary interior.

Don’t think we have that stud edge rusher but great depth. Greenard is supposed to be really good and I truly think Hunt might be our best edge especially if he can take that next step.

Nolan/Ebiketie/ Epenesa 3 pass rushers with experience

Hunt might be our best defender….

4 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

If we get Davis playing like he did last year and a healthy Carter not sure how you stop them it is a scary interior.

Don’t think we have that stud edge rusher but great depth. Greenard is supposed to be really good and I truly think Hunt might be our best edge especially if he can take that next step.

Nolan/Ebiketie/ Epenesa 3 pass rushers with experience

Just hope Davis was a pro and got in shape.

Hurts made a good number of completions over the middle of the field, to which I saw a lot of "But I was told he couldn’t do that!”

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts made a good number of completions over the middle of the field, to which I saw a lot of "But I was told he couldn’t do that!”

Uh oh…a real O and actual capable targets…day one he’s busting you guys retarded weak false labeling.

Hurts going to involve passing to RBs more now also. Just watch.

Timing passing game…what? Could we actually start seeing this first time ever under Siri thats just a Hitch or AJ Slant?

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11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

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And counting...................

Hunt beat Mailata rushing a few times

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Hunt beat Mailata rushing a few times

Telling you….Jalyx is going to be unbelievable this season!

Jakorian Bennett buried as third stringer. Guy is toast! What a great move! Total crap!

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Jakorian Bennett buried as third stringer. Guy is toast! What a great move! Total crap!

While Ty Robinson all signs pointing towards being a bust!

Wonder if Mannion will find a use for Tank? Yeah…we all know any real coaches would and will.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Wonder if Mannion will find a use for Tank? Yeah…we all know any real coaches would and will.

Even FL could see Tank was killing it! Then they only gave him like 8 carries the rest of the season.

Hurts keeps repeating how Mannion has reasoning behind things. Actually such a huge deal. Only here.

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