Which player? Mailata? Was quoted as saying if we put the top five O brains for the Eagles all in one room? It would just be Mannion.

Why the Eagles have much more to worry about than Jalen Hurts struggling for one practice

"There might be some panic from the outside seeing Hurts not have as great a practice. He had some missed throws, including DeVonta Smith being wide open 40 yards down the field, and he not hitting him. Things like that are going to happen at camp"............................... Here's a consistent problem that apparently can't be fixed in 6 years!!!!!! WTH????? Here we go again????? No, things like that should NOT happen at camp unless it's a GREEN ROOKIE QB. Put some nice fashionable HIGH HEEL SPIKES if Hurts can't see over the line, but this was WAY downfield anyhow. I'm sorry a 6th year PRO can't find a wide open guy? Because that's the damn JOB. Is Hurts going to piss off and ignore or miss a wide open Smitty now???? Just piss poor JV stuff still going on at QB. OK 1 practice, but if this happens AGAIN then Hurts is being WAAAAAAY overpaid. WR's work hard to get open, being WIDE open is a damn GIFT. I didn't see the play, was he not thrown to or just MISSED???? Either way it's a BAD sign and very deflating to a receiver who starts to question "what else can I do????" especially now that he has moved to #1 WR. This connection should already be established. Just sad news for me to hear this. Apparently Stowers isn't going to be used much. I hope we can get him some TE1 snaps in garbage time. If Hurts is going to be JV again, the running game HAS TO WORK

First week of camp... let's relax. We know the offense works as the running game works. I wouldn't worry too much until they play for real.

Hurts is looking good so far but curious to see what happens when he starts to get hit that’s when it matters

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Hurts is looking good so far but curious to see what happens when he starts to get hit that’s when it matters

He looks in better shape, slimmer and quicker. If he is a threat to run...along with the ground game working with the RBs. . Then it puts is at a huge advantage limiting his attempts. Our scoring is so much better in games where he throws it less.

56 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

First week of camp... let's relax. We know the offense works as the running game works. I wouldn't worry too much until they play for real.

Yeah….what is TC for? Expectations of midseason form second practice? Just bashing and attacking to…bash and attack.

29 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

He looks in better shape, slimmer and quicker. If he is a threat to run...along with the ground game working with the RBs. . Then it puts is at a huge advantage limiting his attempts. Our scoring is so much better in games where he throws it less.

This is valid I am hoping to see the passing game as more effective this coming season as we look to see if Hurts is the answer at QB

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

First week of camp... let's relax. We know the offense works as the running game works. I wouldn't worry too much until they play for real.

"There might be some panic from the outside seeing Hurts" ...................I didn't write this part, that was the writer lol, just following up. I'm not going to panic, still it seems concerning for a 6th/7th year QB screwing up in practice. Sick of giving Hurts constant passes for errors he never cleans up, like he forgets everything he should have ingrained by now. Is he still doing 1 read? has he graduated yet? Same stuff we were talking about in year 2/3,not reaching the bar we set. This is a 55 million dollar QB? Missing wide open receivers? I can miss passes for a mere 5 million a year, think of the savings!!!!! Would we be mad if we had the same player called for offsides 2 times a game every game? Why do they clean up their mistakes but we give Hurts a pass???? If it was a missed pass due to defense NP but you're missing "wide open" guys downfield???? More excuses for LACK of perfection. It's time he performed to the level of his salary. Dalton/McKee would make that throw ALL DAY

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Hurts is looking good so far but curious to see what happens when he starts to get hit that’s when it matters

He looked thinner, looked like he's moving alot better. Threw a nice pass day 1 on the run to his LEFT which was always an issue for him. Alot of camp left to play. Why do people think I panic when I am offering my view or opinion? "It's my opinion and I'll whine if I want to, whine if I want to....."(Leslie Gore) 🤣 Nice to see under center over the middle passes, just like a real pro LOL. Only took 6+ years. I said some PLUS things too but we always have to go for the negative things I point out. NP it's an opinion board

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

He looks in better shape, slimmer and quicker. If he is a threat to run...along with the ground game working with the RBs. . Then it puts is at a huge advantage limiting his attempts. Our scoring is so much better in games where he throws it less.

We need an excellent running game, we have to cover Hurts missing wide open guys downfield HAHAHAHA(jebus)

If you watched "The Replacements" there is one part in it I really believe. When they are in the locker room and the coach asks "what scares you?" and after some comedic answers, Falco gets serious and says "Quicksand". It's so true too. We know what happens if you fall in

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

This is valid I am hoping to see the passing game as more effective this coming season as we look to see if Hurts is the answer at QB

The question about whether QB is a franchise QB or not has always depended on this as this question: Can he win the SB? Hurts couldn’t have anymore clearly stepped up and answered resoundingly. Best player on the field…a field containing alltime HOF players…..on the biggest stage.

3 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Hurts is looking good so far but curious to see what happens when he starts to get hit that’s when it matters

Who would expect the completely differing brand new installed passing attack to be good when he starts taking hits? Only those with an unreasonable agenda to bash Hurts over everything.

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

He looks in better shape, slimmer and quicker. If he is a threat to run...along with the ground game working with the RBs. . Then it puts is at a huge advantage limiting his attempts. Our scoring is so much better in games where he throws it less.

This all is very debatable actually. Do you want him thicker enabling possibly to absorb more punishment and accel in short yardage Brotherly Shove situations? Or do you risk him leaner and more agile but more susceptible to physicality of his job taking too much a toll?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

This all is very debatable actually. Do you want him thicker enabling possibly to absorb more punishment and accel in short yardage Brotherly Shove situations? Or do you risk him leaner and more agile but more susceptible to physicality of his job taking too much a toll?

I’m honestly asking opinions here. I’m not really thinking Brotherly Shove is still going to be nearly the effective tool it’s been. But….do believe Saquan lesser strength has proven punching short yardage.

3 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

This is valid I am hoping to see the passing game as more effective this coming season as we look to see if Hurts is the answer at QB

So how and when will you be judging this based on?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So how and when will you be judging this based on?

Reading you,BG, stating "season” I’m not at all thinking about or believing. No reason to expect such a huge leap from nonscheme Siri O to actual top elite level O being so easy and seamless.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Reading you,BG, stating "season” I’m not at all thinking about or believing. No reason to expect such a huge leap from nonscheme Siri O to actual top elite level O being so easy and seamless.

Ok…so how important longer term evaluation are the first four weeks?

—my answer really near to zero.

Inexperienced coach, Mannion, expectations for even if his players are fantastic and perform at high levels ….timetable just based on our OC to begin to develop?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Ok…so how important longer term evaluation are the first four weeks?

—my answer really near to zero.

Inexperienced coach, Mannion, expectations for even if his players are fantastic and perform at high levels ….timetable just based on our OC to begin to develop?

You know like Sean McDermott obviously was a knock out great DC hire by AR. But Rosie forced McDermott out after his first season. McDermott thrived ever since. So even a very experienced very well prepared coordinator should reasonably be expected to have reached his ceiling during his first season.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ok…so how important longer term evaluation are the first four weeks?

—my answer really near to zero.

Inexperienced coach, Mannion, expectations for even if his players are fantastic and perform at high levels ….timetable just based on our OC to begin to develop?

Fangio freakin’ as strong and experienced NFL coordinator as it gets. Took him four weeks with uber talented personnel to sort some things out to get the D going originally. Fangio even advised our D just two season prior remember also…already feeling out our personnel.

Do you Start really caring about fairly starting to evaluate progress after first season bye?

Second half of first season would be ideal all time speedy development in a completely inexperienced OC to sort some things out getting the O working.

There’s Mannion first time converting inexperienced personnel into a quality Shannahan element. Like even Shannahan himself it would take some time to just get our players so far up to speed. So many coming from the most extreme lowest level Siri O. 32nd quality NFL Siri nonscheme O…all the way to highest quality O scheme.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Do you Start really caring about fairly starting to evaluate progress after first season bye?

Second half of first season would be ideal all time speedy development in a completely inexperienced OC to sort some things out getting the O working.

There’s Mannion first time converting inexperienced personnel into a quality Shannahan element. Like even Shannahan himself it would take some time to just get our players so far up to speed. So many coming from the most extreme lowest level Siri O. 32nd quality NFL Siri nonscheme O…all the way to highest quality O scheme.

What a giant leap!!! Can Mannion even step up to provide opportunity for an O to produce at top ten levels? Even riding the hardest extreme optimism belief in Mannion…..are we realistically thinking towards to end of his second season at the helm? I know we all wanted most experienced ready to contend OC. Went the opposite route. Least experienced.

FL obviously expects unrealistic development and progress. Heck…ludicrous and understatement. He completely judged Moore with Hurts primarily surrounding week one….honestly I point out how actually huge weight of judgement was being placed on the very first series of the season. Didn’t play PS at all. So actual first series where QB could actually even consider taking a hit. In Brazil…out of his own Endzone….with Dickerson getting owned two of the three plays….interception play Dickerson’s man keeps Hurts from finishing his throw.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

FL obviously expects unrealistic development and progress. Heck…ludicrous and understatement. He completely judged Moore with Hurts primarily surrounding week one….honestly I point out how actually huge weight of judgement was being placed on the very first series of the season. Didn’t play PS at all. So actual first series where QB could actually even consider taking a hit. In Brazil…out of his own Endzone….with Dickerson getting owned two of the three plays….interception play Dickerson’s man keeps Hurts from finishing his throw.

Combination of completely clueless and agenda attacking #Hurtshate