4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Gotta sort through the dumb just throwing out stats

Want to talk the fumble early against Dallas from hurts???? Late interception v NE that kept them in the game, safety against the bucs in the playoffs…. Can go in depth but point is the same Hurts poor play was a problem this year and mostly his ability to protect the ball was a problem 

And this is just me be unbiased I talked about our turnovers all year but you would rather make excuses for Hurts…. Fact is it’s something that needs to be worked on lot of the turnovers from hurts were just bad decisions or was running with the ball to loose. 
 

But again not saying he won’t fix this problem but im more concerned with Hurts fixing these things then Carter who hasn’t shown anything negative since being drafted 

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Now some were flat on Hurts. But really I blame the bad O mostly for it all.

The excuses lol guy is open and you miss him that’s the bad O fault lol…. You throw a ball to a defender you don’t see that’s the O fault not the QBs fault couldn’t be lol 

23 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

That’s great and yet Hurts was worse this year he didn’t protect the ball well at all, he didn’t read defenses well and he made bone head mistakes. Can say he was playing ton much hero ball if you want trying to do to much.

 

I see it as an unimaginative O. He had to play hero ball a bit. The only thing that worked was him running around to give enough time for these long plays to develop.

There was no intermediate passing game hardly. Pure obsession with big playmaking. Which Hurts delivered last year on a clip like nobody could duplicate.

Nobody feared our rushing attack. No stacked boxes to loosen up pass coverages. Seemed like DCs even knew pass or run based on personnel and formation give aways.

To have such dominant run blockers up front of nobody ever feared or overplayed that seemingly most obvious advantage we should have possessed. Our identity and trusted piece was physical rushing. We gave that advantage away this last season. Could have really just made sure we at least had that. Traded for Swift and added another serious RB weapon. But went light on commitment all the way around. Didn’t double up on a second quality RB. It was the easiest plan to actually succeed with. But then never trusted and relied on it. Any QB looks much better with some kind of rushing game. Give the D any chance it thought if doubt. I rarely saw an opponent conflicted. They always knew pass or run.

When did a S or LB take steps forward believing a fake run opening up a passing lane?

Should have been the easiest way to open things up. Control the clock. 

Invested everything in Oline. Had a second TE that only blocks. Pretty criminal to have wasted that. Should have pounded teams. Wore them out. Swift made the Pro Bowl on the quitest yardage ever gaining such honors. 

Never saw anything looked like we set up opponents. Like these set of plays will lead to setting up later alternate playcalls. It was all just ala carte. Single playcalls. Never had a game all weapons on O were brought together. It was run this game. TE the next. Never worked off each other. 

Bad the team came out game one not organized or near crisp. But to see come playoff game…our guys run into each other. G out way too far down field. Opponent reading it all expecting it. That isn’t anything one player and any amount of leadership can fix. Hurts and all our team leadership probably worked against us this season. They hid and masked the real issue that was always there.

10-1 but hearing complaints and frustration. Team never feeling they played a complete or standard level game.

That leadership just kept the mutiny from surfacing. Kept the normal and needed uproar concerning such a weak O and D plan under wraps. Any other team would have exploded and sent a pro coach performing so badly packing quick. It was so noticeably weak. Won games. Had a high ranked O. So 6th ranked O and 10-1 fans bought the hype. Couldn’t see the disaster that was unfolding. Players saw it. Way before the slide. But foolishly falling for the hype and checking week 8 Power Rankings stating we’re top team wasn’t ever the truth. But can’t see how obviously everything played out at the end and there still be any debate after. 10-1…easy to deny. Still wrong…but everything hadn’t been exposed so plainly yet. But if you actually paid attention the problems were always there. I complained at 10-1. To deny or blame QB1 after that finish is just blind hate. 

I saw bad coaching all season. Most glaring I’ve ever noticed coaching hold us back. Other than what Chipper did to any defense we tried to field with his stupid philosophy. Johnson great family friend to Hurts. Highly thought of in all of football. Yet so clearly had to fire him. You can’t defend that job performance. I see it as Siri O and he overrides Johnson plenty. So really see that failure as on Siri.

If you blame Johnson for not being ready and doing so bad? How can you excuse an O HC that can’t notice or fix that? 

Siri O. His team. His call. His gameplan he agreed upon. His lack of adjustments. But then I think he took away trust and growth from Johnson as things progressed. He jumped in to call the crucial third down and late game plays. Cut off his OC at the knees. 

No disrespect to Cook…but I expect more complicated and situational O game calling from high school coaching. Just lacked such fundamental basics of football knowledge. That’s from the plays our guys had to execute.

But it all started in TC. Team didn’t look crisp and organized at all. More a talented so let’s play backyard football type. 

Heck came out game one with Siri trotting out Gainwell as the bell cow RB. Over a not even debatable much more talented Swift. Swift made the Pro Bowl. But because Gainwell got hurt week two. Nothing the realized on their own. 

Like Gainwell all you wish. He never will sniff a Pro Bowl. Swift made it on a bad coached squad. One that didn’t want to give him any touches week one. Forgot about him so often. He was the other main weapon. Throw him the ball. Move him to the slot. 

Get the talented playmakers involved. Not Quez, O.Z. Stohl and Julio…

AR used DJax and Westy to play winning football. If he utilized Westy like Siri just did Swift in the passing game? Wouldn’t even remember Westy so fondly. 

Swift isn’t ring of honor guy. But way better as a receiving weapon than the pathetic stats he produced this season. He produced like Sanders as a receiving threat. Which is just criminal

At least could have been a dump off guy on blitz beating