February 6, 20242 yr 56 minutes ago, joemas6 said: Question for the older fans here who have watched the game since the 60s-70s Staubach, Bradshaw, Tarkenton, Montana, Elway, Young, Favre... I would consider all those QBs as mobile guys. This " the game has evolved " BS argument that you need a dual threat at QB...not a statue. I disagree... I think the top QBs always could move. Just that we went through an era where Manning and Brady were probably the least mobile of the top QBs who dominated their era... so the perception is that it's some huge evolution, when reality is just the slower guys were at the top recently. You can throw Brees in there I guess...but even then, Big Ben, Rodgers, Wilson... they all were guys that could move. I don't see some big evolution here... it's always been guys that can avoid the sack have been successful. Still the top guys need to see the field and make the throws. I think people confuse QBs who can run and QBs who move well in the pocket. Big Ben needed a calendar to run a 40 but moved in the pocket to escape the rush. Hurts runs well bit i don't think he's particularly good at moving in the pocket to escape the rush
February 6, 20242 yr 46 minutes ago, Asg 15 said: I think people confuse QBs who can run and QBs who move well in the pocket. Big Ben needed a calendar to run a 40 but moved in the pocket to escape the rush. Hurts runs well bit i don't think he's particularly good at moving in the pocket to escape the rush Ben 4.75 .... not that slow at all. Not really about Hurts either... just the point where the game was never about having statue QBs... just think the timing of Manning and Brady is the reason why it seem so extreme. Biggest change is the quick passing... yes 49ers had the West coast short passing game,was never to the extreme where QB catches the snap and instantly throws the bubble screens. Those plays developed. Brady and Manning and to an extent Brees took the quick passing to another level. Marino had a quick release... still didn't just unload the ball right away, the plays developed. Throw in the rule changes where the QB can't get hit anywhere close to before and the CBs can't breathe on the WR....that's the evolution of the game. Not mobile QBs. Fantasy football has glorified it more along with being protected from hits. But game has always benefited from having a QB that could move, again...few exceptions ( Brady, Manning, Marino)
February 6, 20242 yr 5 minutes ago, joemas6 said: Ben 4.75 .... not that slow at all. Not really about Hurts either... just the point where the game was never about having statue QBs... just think the timing of Manning and Brady is the reason why it seem so extreme. Biggest change is the quick passing... yes 49ers had the West coast short passing game,was never to the extreme where QB catches the snap and instantly throws the bubble screens. Those plays developed. Brady and Manning and to an extent Brees took the quick passing to another level. Marino had a quick release... still didn't just unload the ball right away, the plays developed. Throw in the rule changes where the QB can't get hit anywhere close to before and the CBs can't breathe on the WR....that's the evolution of the game. Not mobile QBs. Fantasy football has glorified it more along with being protected from hits. But game has always benefited from having a QB that could move, again...few exceptions ( Brady, Manning, Marino) In my mind the perfect example of someone who couldn't run but moved well is Foles
February 6, 20242 yr Just the hypothetical since I’ve seen us linked to his name a few times would you give up our first round pick for Surtain from the Broncos
February 7, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said: Just the hypothetical since I’ve seen us linked to his name a few times would you give up our first round pick for Surtain from the Broncos Pick 22 this year...sure. Especially if there is the idea of unloading both Slay and Bradberry.
February 7, 20242 yr 2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said: Just the hypothetical since I’ve seen us linked to his name a few times would you give up our first round pick for Surtain from the Broncos Why not. At least you know what you're getting.
February 7, 20242 yr 21 hours ago, EaglesTD123 said: Why not. At least you know what you're getting. Very much so with didn’t Fangio coach him his rookie year?
February 7, 20242 yr 17 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Very much so with didn’t Fangio coach him his rookie year? I'm not sure. It would be easy to assume it as likely. Then you have the connection of our new defensive backs coach Christian Parker from Denver.
February 8, 20242 yr So it’s being reported Kliff Kingsbury was our front runner for our vacant OC job.
February 8, 20242 yr That on that very detailed second meeting where things got very detailed he wanted too much power.
February 8, 20242 yr Everybody heard how Siri openly was saying coordinators were going to run things now. So not sure exactly how much power he could have been looking for more than that as an OC?
February 8, 20242 yr 15 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Everybody heard how Siri openly was saying coordinators were going to run things now. So not sure exactly how much power he could have been looking for more than that as an OC? I decipher that to read it as Lurie & Howie are running the show. If anyone objects, F it; we'll replace you.
February 8, 20242 yr 8 minutes ago, EaglesTD123 said: I decipher that to read it as Lurie & Howie are running the show. If anyone objects, F it; we'll replace you. Not sure that would lend to attracting strong candidates.
February 8, 20242 yr Thought of it as a statement to give full credit and respect to any potential coordinator candidates. Not some Bieniemy working as an OC under AR this thing. Ownership of their side of the ball job. Good for working towards promotions to get their own teams if their guys do very well.
February 8, 20242 yr Gotta think there are plenty of coaches out there with all kinds of experience. Many quality options don’t see themselves as less deserving than Siri of having their own team. A quality experienced guy will work for long tenured very top coaches. Maybe taking a lesser job under them than they feel they deserve.
February 8, 20242 yr Author 1 hour ago, EaglesTD123 said: I decipher that to read it as Lurie & Howie are running the show. If anyone objects, F it; we'll replace you. We should go back to chip Kelly's smoothies. I think that's the difference maker we need 🤣
February 8, 20242 yr 5 hours ago, EaglesTD123 said: I decipher that to read it as Lurie & Howie are running the show. If anyone objects, F it; we'll replace you. Yeah... considering they wouldn't let Doug pick his coaches...that was obvious 3 years ago.
February 8, 20242 yr 5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: Not sure that would lend to attracting strong candidates. When have they gone for the strong candidat? They always look for the next dark horse...." smartest guy in the room" mode outsmarting everyone else.
February 9, 20242 yr Eagles are hiring former Tennessee Titans inside linebackers coach Bobby King. Here’s a snapshot of his coaching experience: 2010 — Dallas Cowboys assistant linebackers coach/defensive quality control coach 2011 — Houston Texans defensive assistant 2012-2013 — Houston Texans assistant linebackers coach 2014-2016 — San Diego Chargers assistant linebackers coach 2017 — Houston Texans linebackers coach 2018-2020 — Houston Texans inside linebackers coach 2021 — Houston Texans defensive line coach 2022-2023 — Tennessee Titans inside linebackers coach King overlapped with Nick Sirianni in San Diego for three seasons.
February 9, 20242 yr TOTAL BS! Eagles legend Eric Allen is snubbed from yet another Pro Football Hall of Fame class https://insidetheiggles.com/posts/eagles-legend-eric-allen-snubbed-from-another-pro-football-hall-of-fame-class
February 9, 20242 yr Good news here. I couldn't see any reason why Stout wouldn't be returning. LMAO it's absurd to think of him getting the boot. https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/jeff-stoutland-offensive-line-coach-video-hints-at-staying-with-eagles-2024/563314/
February 9, 20242 yr Tracy Rocker firing was the surprise. Were on pace and almost set the sack record the year before. I guess they didn’t think he’s was the major factor in having guys like Fletch, Hargrave and Reddick.
February 9, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said: Having a legit QB coach seems like a wise decision. Agree... the running ability is there, but the mental work and the fundamentals need a lot of work.
February 9, 20242 yr Author https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/what-to-expect-from-new-eagles-offensive-coordinator-kellen-moore-part-1/ar-BB1hZGB1?rc=1&ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=506ba69d82a242abbae915b934910c3c&ei=23
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