All kinds of trains of thought on how to handle things with rookies. Are you going to handle it like they did with Reed Blankenship? Just focused on giving him just a role or two to succeed at. Not all the S jobs. Had him building off those building blocks. Add to his plate from there. This is in sharp contrast to just throwing everything at him to see what sticks. Totally different than just seeing if he can kind of do every job decent.

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/eagles-db-cooper-dejean-sends-strong-message-about-versatility/ar-AA1nSJoh?rc=1&ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=0093f2b495534a559861ff64bf352b1f&ei=52   FWIW

This is very informative. He does have more experience playing S than I realized. He wants to view himself as a shutdown outside CB. But he just wants to play most of all. Just reading him as so very coachable a player. He’s a stud grown in Iowa…very much contrasting being the same talent raised in LA. No offense to any  LA lovers.

I think Bellicheat point about LT being the only guy he’s coached being ready day one….is a good one. These guys need the coaching and development. Pro weight  and technique training.

Kelce's going to be doing the Mon Night Football Countdown show

30 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Must be good for you to never worry about the Eagles ever winning or anything. The whole thing is always out of your control. You have near zero control of the team. Can only buy apparel and tickets spending money. Have that effect as a fan. They gotta have the fans or none of it exists.

It's great dude....because sports isn't for worrying about losing.... sports is an opportunity to achieve something. 

I play and coach enough ... certainly not going to worry about other teams, especially those guys who all get paid win or lose.

Not my job to worry... it doesn't effect the outcome. 

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I think Bellicheat point about LT being the only guy he’s coached being ready day one….is a good one. These guys need the coaching and development. Pro weight  and technique training.

I think its an obvious exaggeration.

48 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

All kinds of trains of thought on how to handle things with rookies. Are you going to handle it like they did with Reed Blankenship? Just focused on giving him just a role or two to succeed at. Not all the S jobs. Had him building off those building blocks. Add to his plate from there. This is in sharp contrast to just throwing everything at him to see what sticks. Totally different than just seeing if he can kind of do every job decent.

He played 3 positions........and played them all well to Iowa's satisfaction. He arrived in Iowa as a SAFETY. But somehow Iowa needed a CB and he filled that void and those are the "highlights" you see. However he ALREADY KNOWS all 3 positions. He will have to transition like every rookie that has ever been drafted since time began. There is nothing new or detrimental about this,it's FACT. If the coaches we have can't develop these rookie players do you think Lurie would let them stick around long? he will make rookie mistakes,they ALL do. There is nothing new or detrimental about making mistakes if one learns from them. The Eagles will play Coop where h fits best and he could actually play varying positions in the SAME GAME. That is the UPSIDE of why we drafted him. it's foolish to think he needs "trained" at playing positions he played in HS and college. I still understand how to play TE(although it has come a long way since I played). I started out as a RB. After some time the coach saw my potential(and/or failures at RB) to move me to TE. Those are 2 widely different positions. CB and S employ many of the same reps. It's how you can control your body,speed,change of direction which he ALREADY understands. He will find out where his limitations are,and where he excels. The transition process takes time. It will NOT be completed in camp,and may take more than a year. Again this is nothing foreign and nothing the Eagles face that the other 31 teams don't. The kid is EXCITED to play football. Let the kid get acclimated and make some friends on the team. He has excellent player mentors to give him tips as well as the coaches we employ. Every guy we drafted needs to do this first. By mid camp they will have some ideas on how to use Coop. If anyone gets injured he can step in to any of the 3 DB roles. It's advantageous to have a versatile player like this. I'm going to let the kid play the game he loves and see how he fits into the defensive scheme. he will learn new things he couldn't in Iowa like all rookies under new coaches. I'm not going to place this kid under a microscope. He will make his rook mistakes and find his place within the Eagles organization. Sometimes the best teacher is not reps in camp,it's making those mistakes in a game. He now earns a paycheck and has a JOB. He will learn his job and progress,or he will be fired from his job like anyone else who fails to do it. Of all the players we drafted,I'm not putting extra undue pressure on this guy. He will learn his job or he won't. I'm going to assume he will and become an integral piece of the Eagles defense in the future. Perhaps we change coaches again. He will not forget what he learned under the staff we have in place. As his body matures and his mind soaks up different things he will learn he will get better like any other rookie on any team in the league. He's young,bright and loves playing no matter where on the field it is. I love his attitude. He has confidence and smarts and a body I wish I had in college. I'm expecting big things from him as he is expecting big things from himself,to be the best he can be. Rant over

8 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Kelce's going to be doing the Mon Night Football Countdown show

So he chose Disney

38 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Surprised you even tune in to the draft then. 

Do I have to worry to follow the draft?  What was there to worry about?  The microphone not working?

36 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’ve seen mixed results that have occurred from the different coaches. Differing results have occurred from the GM. Rosie after day one of the draft highlights how he needs to not overwhelm the pick. Just need him to hyper focus on the outside CB job when asked about his ability to man the slot. Rosie circled back that he believes Q can play the slot. 

Do you see Howie as the football expert to where you value his opinion regarding those details?   Or more so a guy coaches for decades?

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

It's great dude....because sports isn't for worrying about losing.... sports is an opportunity to achieve something. 

I play and coach enough ... certainly not going to worry about other teams, especially those guys who all get paid win or lose.

Not my job to worry... it doesn't effect the outcome. 

It’s more just about caring. Being passionate. Then knowing what you’re talking about. I don’t blindly just go along with all the BS being sold to me. You just say how well the P hasn’t killed us yet because he sucks…evidently so did those in charge. It didn’t rear its ugly head until the shank in the SB. Something I saw coming the whole time. That’s why you hate ‘I called it’ so often. I

But then you worry and bash Hurts endlessly

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Do I have to worry to follow the draft?  What was there to worry about?  The microphone not working?

Being concerned? Just natural if you care. Aren’t aloof. But you don’t really know enough to be very concerned. You don’t know much about many of these college kids to choose between. Don’t know much about these players across the NFL other than Eagles. When you have the knowledge about these guys you’d form opinions. You’d have preference for certain guys over others.

That way you don’t have to ever go on any limbs with actual opinions and thoughts. Just troll in hindsight.

But in hindsight have these warped views because you aren’t grasping much of what occurred. Just like many of the very light female fans that barely follow the sport. They just follow a team because they like their colors and such. Blame the QB for everything. Win or lose because the QB was great or sucked. Except with Hurts. Then you just spin your Hurts hatred around the results.  Pretty much sums up your talk of ball. Is what it is.

Your worry over the negative with Hurts has no bounds. Trumps all the millions of subjects I just think about. My thinking about all facets of the franchise can’t come close to your garbage hill that’s rolling downhill to trash Hurts.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But then you worry and bash Hurts endlessly

UH, what's worse in your opinion, a shanked punt when it counts, or handing your SB opponent a free 6? We changed punters maybe because of that choke,should we have changed QB's too? In TB he(Hurts) also took a rookie sack for a safety. Old punter 0-1 under pressure. Existing QB 0-2. Doesn't mean I hate Hurts,it means he also chokes under pressure and he needs to get his act together NOW. The old punter is GONE. We gave Hurts more chances and now he needs to NOT CHOKE when it counts. Hurts needs to shine now. "Records" don't matter because 1 fatal mistake wipes ALL that out. Hurts has had 2 game time fatalities. He needs to do his highly paid job now or Pickett will take his job. Howie has NP dumping QB's who don't win. I see no exception for Hurts. They gave Hurts the big money and that comes with YET UNFILLED expectations. Lifting the Lombardi is the GOAL and the excuses need to end now

During the draft what’s occurring? FL and I are invested. Know it matters for our franchise…very specifically. I hit joy grabbing a guy I see as being a huge boost to our team. FL not as happy and preferred a different path. No Mas, just throwing out trolling comments to instigate crap. Because you weren’t invested. The results ahead based on these choices aren’t registering for you.

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

UH, what's worse in your opinion, a shanked punt when it counts, or handing your SB opponent a free 6? We changed punters maybe because of that choke,should we have changed QB's too? In TB he(Hurts) also took a rookie sack for a safety. Old punter 0-1 under pressure. Existing QB 0-2. Doesn't mean I hate Hurts,it means he also chokes under pressure and he needs to get his act together NOW. The old punter is GONE. We gave Hurts more chances and now he needs to NOT CHOKE when it counts. Hurts needs to shine now. "Records" don't matter because 1 fatal mistake wipes ALL that out. Hurts has had 2 game time fatalities. He needs to do his highly paid job now or Pickett will take his job. Howie has NP dumping QB's who don't win. I see no exception for Hurts. They gave Hurts the big money and that comes with YET UNFILLED expectations. Lifting the Lombardi is the GOAL and the excuses need to end now

Some how you see Hurts as bringing the fatality in TB last playoffs? We already were in the casket. You were just flat kidding yourself to expect we could win a playoff game last year…against anybody.

The shanked P was a free 7. Sure he didn’t return it actually completely into the Endzone. Not far off. Was a quick easy score resulting from it after. 

FL you’ve stated you didn’t care as long as the,now adapted ‘goal’of 32 points was reached. Hurts accomplished your goal..previously ‘standard’.

16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Some how you see Hurts as bringing the fatality in TB last playoffs? We already were in the casket. You were just flat kidding yourself to expect we could win a playoff game last year…against anybody.

SO we played a better team and that;s your excuse??? Taking a peewee sack vs ANYONE is about as bad as it gets for a supposedly 'seasoned" QB. Stop the excuses!!!!! There was ZERO reason to outright DROP a ball in the SB,there was ZERO reasons to take a QB sack. I don't give a crap if I'm down 55-0,that doesn't allow me to play like a peewee rookie,so once again stop the excuse train

To even try and state Hurts does anything but rise to the challenge under pressure is completely false. The guy is the ultimate competitor. Stepped his game up and thrives under pressure. Hurts isn’t the reason we haven’t or can’t win a SB. 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

FL you’ve stated you didn’t care as long as the,now adapted ‘goal’of 32 points was reached. Hurts accomplished your goal..previously ‘standard’.

Nope we dropped off by 4 PPG last year,how is that Improving???? Actually Dullaz led the league with 29.9 PPG which was where we were the year before. last year we dropped off to 25.6. Those are facts,excuse away because the facts don't lie

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO we played a better team and that;s your excuse??? Taking a peewee sack vs ANYONE is about as bad as it gets for a supposedly 'seasoned" QB. Stop the excuses!!!!! There was ZERO reason to outright DROP a ball in the SB,there was ZERO reasons to take a QB sack. I don't give a crap if I'm down 55-0,that doesn't allow me to play like a peewee rookie,so ocne again stop the excuse train

We couldn’t beat the Cards…Giants to finish the season. Well..did squeak out that win against the Giants before they blew us out the final game.