2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Which of those guys handed KC a free 7 points?

Most of them. P shanked the P returned  that was immediately converted into 7 after. All these defenders ad DC gave up 14…two TDs on the same play run leaving the receiver completely uncovered. No defender near him…twice. Same play both times. Twice…meaning 14 points.

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SHOW me the ring. We not only showed Hurts the money, we gave it to him. Now it's time to put a Lombardi in the trophy case,no more excuses. Top rate RB now,all top rate receivers, a top notch TE. Of course now you can blame a new O line, or whatever other excuses you want, but the fact remains the QB runs the team and gets paid far and away the most to accomplish that

Showed Hurts the money because he stepped up and thrived under the heaviest pressure on the biggest stage. Threw the bag at him..for the same game you throwing the ax on him for. Huge divide in opinions.

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Oline is a unit working together. It always sounds great to point to accolades of individuals. But when you can’t open a whole to run the ball in the big game what does it matter? Couldn’t run the ball for crap against KC. Does future HoF jackets change any of that?

Secondary is a unit that works together why you see such drastic fall offs when so many new faces work together the communication is off. 

14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

YAY and how many did they score? Who exceeded the 31 PPG more? What would they have scored without a free 7? Who had the 1/2 time lead????

They actually played D. Does that factor into any of your logic ever on the way to your singular purpose of scoring 32? Scored 35…yet you still place the blame

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Secondary is a unit that works together why you see such drastic fall offs when so many new faces work together the communication is off. 

Absolutely. Secondary..plus they gotta work with passing off coverages from the LBs. Team sport. Excellent point!

10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Which of those guys handed KC a free 7 points?

We know it wasn’t the RBs. Had to sit them on the bench because they weren’t effective at all. They couldn’t fumble because wouldn’t give them the ball anymore after nothing but failure.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Most of them. P shanked the P returned  that was immediately converted into 7 after. All these defenders ad DC gave up 14…two TDs on the same play run leaving the receiver completely uncovered. No defender near him…twice. Same play both times. Twice…meaning 14 points.

Mahomes was DOWN 10 points in the SB. Which QB responded??? There was no reason to allow Mahomes to outscore us by over 10 points in 30 minutes 31 PPG wasn't enough in that game,yet in 30 minutes our offense got outscored(yes the D stunk up the joint as well) but there was no reason for us to be outscored. I could see it differently if we were down by 10 at the 1/2. But we were UP. Their offense responded(led by Mahomes) and we couldn't put up enough points. The D was bad enough but when the O gives up a free 7 it deflates the whole team

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No the point No Mas attempts to make us that accolades mean each play they perform at a HoF level.

This is false or just the say you want to take it. The reality was RG pre draft made the most sense. Simply put RG(or C I guess) completed the OL yes the OL prospect we drafted had mesh with the rest and I understand it doesn’t always happen. But if you do get the right guy and complete the OL you have a guy that starting every snap making an already strong OL stronger. 
 

Now I love our DB additions and I hope they are better then the duo of Sheldon/Lito but like OL they are a unit Mitchell/Dejean/Slay etc. mistakes are likely with new guys 

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Showed Hurts the money because he stepped up and thrived under the heaviest pressure on the biggest stage. Threw the bag at him..for the same game you throwing the ax on him for. Huge divide in opinions.

You don't take a sack in the EZ in ANY GAME ANYWHERE in ANY VENUE. if you are too stupid to throw the ball away that is not "thriving under pressure" that is succumbing to the pressure.please.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We know it wasn’t the RBs. Had to sit them on the bench because they weren’t effective at all. They couldn’t fumble because wouldn’t give them the ball anymore after nothing but failure.

If the RB's aren't effective then you THROW the ball,Hurts has that option in the RPO(that's why it's called the RPO)

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We know it wasn’t the RBs. Had to sit them on the bench because they weren’t effective at all. They couldn’t fumble because wouldn’t give them the ball anymore after nothing but failure.

Actually Sanders fumbled twice…but was injured..we wouldn’t hand it to him again after all that though hehehe

Ok done with this,we've already kicked this dead horse(I posted Hams pic already). The fact remains Hurts needs to hoist the Lombardi now. The past is gone. We paid him. He is the team leader and he needs to get it done now. He needs to stop the ball hogging and use the players Howie has provided. A true leader will accomplish that. For Hurts it's showtime. I have nothing else to add to this

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Actually Sanders fumbled twice…but was injured..we wouldn’t hand it to him again after all that though hehehe

Better RB now,Howie provided it. One less excuse off the books

10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Mahomes was DOWN 10 points in the SB. Which QB responded??? There was no reason to allow Mahomes to outscore us by over 10 points in 30 minutes 31 PPG wasn't enough in that game,yet in 30 minutes our offense got outscored(yes the D stunk up the joint as well) but there was no reason for us to be outscored. I could see it differently if we were down by 10 at the 1/2. But we were UP. Their offense responded(led by Mahomes) and we couldn't put up enough points. The D was bad enough but when the O gives up a free 7 it deflates the whole team

How football works is one team gets the ball first. Most always the team that wins the coin toss elects to get the ball first…IN THE SECOND HALF. We got the ball first the chiefs got it to start the second half. So once things were equal(after the Chiefs first drive of the second half) we had a field goal lead only. This is just basic fair play way of looking at the game. They got the ball first in the second half. How was Hurts supposed to do anything about that?

16 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Mahomes was DOWN 10 points in the SB. Which QB responded??? There was no reason to allow Mahomes to outscore us by over 10 points in 30 minutes 31 PPG wasn't enough in that game,yet in 30 minutes our offense got outscored(yes the D stunk up the joint as well) but there was no reason for us to be outscored. I could see it differently if we were down by 10 at the 1/2. But we were UP. Their offense responded(led by Mahomes) and we couldn't put up enough points. The D was bad enough but when the O gives up a free 7 it deflates the whole team

Does  it factor into your logic AT ALL the D needing to get a stop? Not just giving up the points…but keeping our O off the field. Just breaking it down to the very end of the game. D gets a stop we win. At worst OT..because of what Hurts was doing that day.

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Better RB now,Howie provided it. One less excuse off the books

Well not if he’s injured in the crucial game or moment. But think we have a better RB 2 now. Gotta get this kid up and running to be easy.

10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Ok done with this,we've already kicked this dead horse(I posted Hams pic already). The fact remains Hurts needs to hoist the Lombardi now. The past is gone. We paid him. He is the team leader and he needs to get it done now. He needs to stop the ball hogging and use the players Howie has provided. A true leader will accomplish that. For Hurts it's showtime. I have nothing else to add to this

One player will accomplish and overcome all…so states FL. He has to do even more than he did in the SB…and be absolutely flawless doing it…or else it’s all his fault. 

By FL logic Dan Marino sucks. Our whole franchise has always sucked. We haven’t put up 33 points every game and won Super Bowls. Been Hurts fault the whole time!

39 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Excuses. We're all tired of them. Lurie will be soon also

Excuses? Reasons? Just blame Hurts for all…much easier

23 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

You don't take a sack in the EZ in ANY GAME ANYWHERE in ANY VENUE. if you are too stupid to throw the ball away that is not "thriving under pressure" that is succumbing to the pressure.please.

It’s such a vaunted Oline why was he dealing with so much pressure? I mean actual physical defenders in his face pressure?

21 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Ok done with this,we've already kicked this dead horse(I posted Hams pic already). The fact remains Hurts needs to hoist the Lombardi now. The past is gone. We paid him. He is the team leader and he needs to get it done now. He needs to stop the ball hogging and use the players Howie has provided. A true leader will accomplish that. For Hurts it's showtime. I have nothing else to add to this

So you only approve of one player in the history of our franchise? Foles!

22 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Better RB now,Howie provided it. One less excuse off the books

I thought you didn’t believe that mattered. You stated it was all Oline.

Saquan will make a difference I do believe. Saw how McCaffrey made such a difference with the Niners.

AJ and DeVonta sure did their jobs in that SB. Needed to pay those guys. The most moronic coaching robbed us of AJ last postseason(not that it would have changed the outcome). But both have proven to me they are ready for the big moments..competitors that thrive even under the biggest lights.

40 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Secondary is a unit that works together why you see such drastic fall offs when so many new faces work together the communication is off. 

Fangio kind of building things from scratch here. He has some tools to work with…I’m optimistic. Not unrealistically expecting the D to be at its peak week one. Really just need Bryce and Nolan to show up bringing that pass rush and to not be complete liabilities against the run. Both really need to prove durability.