7 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You have to fire the HC if you don’t like his core philosophy of D can’t give up the big plays. Most D play this way honestly. Pretty much just banking on you making a mistake…penalty/drop..something. But the hardest to do is be methodical up and down the field. They fear the big plays. Analytics pointing to those being the game changers.

You want to fire Siri?   You calling it now?

Just now, joemas6 said:

You want to fire Siri?   You calling it now?

Specifically now...after seeing changes in draft philosophy and getting the kid you wanted where Siri has the relationship with the college coach?   Change in philosophy signing Barkley.

You want to fire Siri now?

Man what a great draft for us what made it better we snagged 3 extra picks for 2025.

extra 3rd got our 4th back plus an extra 5th

https://clutchpoints.com/philadelphia-eagles-trying-out-nfl-combines-former-fastest-man-after-brief-retirement

Guy's snake bit, often injured

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

The scouting report gets the players here...no longer matters. 

Only thing that matters is the resume that starts at the pro facility.

Sure…sounds great. Doesn’t all the sudden mean a guy now has hip fluidity on the case of DeJean. Or mean that Quinyon has extension technique knowledge and experience in Bump and Run coverage.

3 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

From PFF;

Ainias Smith proved a dangerous receiver after the catch at Texas A&M, as he forced 20 missed tackles after the catch in 2023 (seventh among all WRs). On 102 combined targets the past two seasons, he dropped just two passes.

Have to remind myself this wasn’t occurring in the Big 12 but the SEC

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sure…sounds great. Doesn’t all the sudden mean a guy now has hip fluidity on the case of DeJean. Or mean that Quinyon has extension technique knowledge and experience in Bump and Run coverage.

Also means they still have almost 5 months until the season starts. 

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

What are you saying?  You are all over the place.   Why does your mind work this way.   

Just let training camp happen and see how the players develop. 

Said outside lockdown CB I prioritize. If Derrell Revis was a good S did you care?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Said outside lockdown CB I prioritize. If Derrell Revis was a good S did you care?

No because Revis isn't an Eagle

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

You ask me on this team before the draft ...what would make more impact.

One player wise....  thst would be RG. Because a stud RG completes the OL

One stud CB ...complete shut down..  that's a start....but he can't cover everyone.  

Now with 2 studs added... we made progress in the secondary.  Hopefully they perform and we can view it to where one addition in the secondary can then complete the puzzle.

See the one stud G doesn’t complete anything on the Oline. The Oline has to work seamlessly together as a unit. Seen five decent guys working together be real tough to beat. The best individuals working alone won’t cut it. 

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

No because Revis isn't an Eagle

But Revis could play S well. So you value his versatility over Shutdown CB?

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

In 5 months before the season....I can have Mitchell bump and run about a 1000 reps... he should pick up a little something before game 1. 

That’s not what we’ve seen the most from Fangio’s Ds so far. He’s more known for mixing up varying Zone concepts.  So you think in one offseason completely teach him everything? Just not very realistic in my mind. Think Fangio can maximize what he’s been doing so much in college…Off coverage. Man and Zones. And begin teaching bump and run techniques and rules.

If a coach could teach a kid everything in one offseason everything would be completely different. Year two TC : guys would just come in to party and lift weights. Just be checking in. I’ll even use my boy Hurts who has as extensive experience as it gets at 25. He has plenty still to learn and grow.

But you hear coaches and GMs say these things about just focus on one job…then expand from there. But then you want to jump to just have this other guy come in and perform a thousand roles? No consistency there in the train of thought. 

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

That's the mindset with basketball.  Everything starts with the one mismatch of the stud player. 

If the opponent doesn't have a stud WR... or a stud DL to game plan against.  It takes away the sizzle of a shutdown CB or stud pass blocker that could neutralize the one stud opponent. 

Who did Mitchell have to shutdown in bump and run for Toledo?   If there wasn't anyone for him...  you play him off so he can be involved more with helping everywhere else. 

If a team doesn’t have a good WR then the game plan gets real simple real quick. But Off coverage is what they ran. What he was comfortable doing. You have your eyes in on the QB that way. More reliant on that fast break on the ball….or tackle. Bump and run is just very different. But just starts with teaching him the techniques. Is he facing the Z or the X? Is the WR trying to get around him inside or out? Is it a bigger physical WR or speedy shifty guy?

Outside CB is the easiest of the Secondary jobs to teach also really. Got the sideline working with always. So less variety occurring with the transitions of others in coverages. Nickel CB and S roles aren’t just your own job…but what your teammate is doing on each side of you also.

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

On top of that...my idea with the shutdown CB isn't as priority as you.  Because one guy doesn't cover all 5 offensive skill guys.   Only takes one weakness in the secondary...one mismatch and it's advantage offense 

Conversely...with OL vs DL.... the OL needs to be complete.  The DL only needs one mismatch to create an advantage. 

Therefore I see more priority for ONE stud WR or DL...  but a more complete group at OL and DB.

You think they wasted Revis not utilizing his quality S skills?

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Do the math.   4 months time.  1000 reps = 250 reps per month.   Say 20 work days...  13 reps a day... I hope he gets that.

Four months to be ready to go against the best of the best? Every player should just have everything? Not even. Football is the only sport that is 90 percent practice for the 10 percent of game moments.

25 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

No because Revis isn't an Eagle

Now we have DeJean…but you don’t want him outside

42 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But Revis could play S well. So you value his versatility over Shutdown CB?

For me it would depend on match ups

1 minute ago, EaglesTD123 said:

For me it would depend on match ups

Then again, if I have a lock down CB I would want him to travel with the hardest receiver to defend. Take away the best weapons is the name of the game. 

17 minutes ago, EaglesTD123 said:

Then again, if I have a lock down CB I would want him to travel with the hardest receiver to defend. Take away the best weapons is the name of the game. 

Exactly how I’d prioritize things. I want him to do this more importantly over being versatile showing me he can also play S. Best job would be showing me he’s a CB that can travel with the matchup inside and out. Any player can do this…that’s what I want him doing.

Two high S that can cover half the field, single high S that can cover ground and distance, SS in the box….all that comes behind CB. If a player dominates as a Cb…I’m not trying to show off his versatility at varying S roles. By doing the CB job so well he makes the S job easier anyway.

Much lesser of a talented player…but can remember Maddox. I always understood he was a Slot CB. But they touted his versatility. Played everywhere else but Slot. S and outside. Don’t look to great. Then they finally put him in the slot and wham… looked great. So fans telling me oh trust the coaches know everything. BS. Seen too much to know better than that. Coaches screw up all the time.

Hassan Reddick complete stud pass rushing…took years for them to get that right