3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LOL happens with politicians also. I never said he didn't live up to the billing, YOU said I said it. When people VOTE they vote for names they know,that is REALITY!!! if you have 2 players that are equal,people will vote for the name they know or have heard. Please tell me you aren't this naive.You think when fans vote on who should go to the pro bowl they research every candidate??? Really???? if you think they do then you answered my question about how naive you are

No I don’t think Kelce was living off of name recognition alone..at all.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

2011(I believe) Kelce started. In 2012 It was Reynolds who started at C. Then Reynolds went to the Gnats and Kelce was starting again.Feel free to correct me because as everyone knows I am "uneducated" and "unaware",but in my obvious stupidity,lack of awareness,lack of education, and having no clue what I'm talking about, this must have been the 3 year span in which Ham lost his sanity, because my god, we changed centers 3 years in a row and went back to Kelce. IDK how I maintained or controlled myself from falling off the deep end into the abyss 🤣 

Kelce was injured early in his career... I believe 2 injurues???

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

OK let's try this' Jurgens is our center, WTF are you going to do about that????? If he sucks,he SUCKS,but he is our center,so you go right ahead and worry yourself into a tizzy about it because there's not a damn thing you are going to do about it. Kelce was a great C,he is now GONE. As in RETIRED GONE. Keep working yourself up with BS you don't control and bash guys who are now our starters without even having seen one snap played. If JURGENS SUCKS HE SUCKS but he is the CENTER-THAT is REALITY. Kelce had to play his first game sometime too didn't he??????? Did you go into hysterics when Kelce started for us???? And believe me if Jurgens sicks that bad he will be replaced,but keep worrying because the guy we replace Jurgens with could also suck- OMG call the UH OH police

Lesser than the best ever…is all I said about Jurgens that you disagreed with

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

OH so see you admit it also HAHAHAHAHA yes he earned that,no one said he didn't. But once you are at the top it tends to be easier to get votes because people know you achieved them. After that you can't totally suck,but you can do what you do and assume many votes will be because "well he was there already and the team is winning" and that is reality

So when is it Kelce was living off name recognition instead of his play?

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

2011(I believe) Kelce started. In 2012 It was Reynolds who started at C. Then Reynolds went to the Gnats and Kelce was starting again.Feel free to correct me because as everyone knows I am "uneducated" and "unaware",but in my obvious stupidity,lack of awareness,lack of education, and having no clue what I'm talking about, this must have been the 3 year span in which Ham lost his sanity, because my god, we changed centers 3 years in a row and went back to Kelce. IDK how I maintained or controlled myself from falling off the deep end into the abyss 🤣 

Kelce has been the guy since he walked in. Corrected…again

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

2011(I believe) Kelce started. In 2012 It was Reynolds who started at C. Then Reynolds went to the Gnats and Kelce was starting again.Feel free to correct me because as everyone knows I am "uneducated" and "unaware",but in my obvious stupidity,lack of awareness,lack of education, and having no clue what I'm talking about, this must have been the 3 year span in which Ham lost his sanity, because my god, we changed centers 3 years in a row and went back to Kelce. IDK how I maintained or controlled myself from falling off the deep end into the abyss 🤣 

https://www.delcotimes.com/2012/09/17/eagles-reynolds-ready-to-fill-void-left-by-kelce-with-videos/

I seem to remember some on this board saying Kelce was too small etc.

2 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

I seem to remember some on this board saying Kelce was too small etc.

Shady admitted to telling coach that orginally. He said it didn’t take him long to completely come around in Kelce favor.

How many pages can be bogged down by Kelce wasn’t good because we didn’t win the Super Bowl, he was living on name recognition only and there won’t be a drop off now that he’s retired?

Not going to hear that from me, I was for him from the beginning. Is Jurgens going to be an adjustment? Sure. Not written in stone yet as we now have several who are going to vie for C and RG. Jurgens was Kelces' choice when we got him, still is, so I'll trust him - at least for now. We'll see what happens in camp. OTC still has us at 29 mill cap space.

By the way, axing Bradberry June 1st only saves us like 4 mill, still on the hook for 11 next yr

15 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Sure. Not written in stone yet as we now have several who are going to vie for C and RG. Jurgens was Kelces' choice when we got him, still is, so I'll trust him - at least for now.

I mean we drafted a C from NC State in the 6th round thats undersized and good athlete for his position. Kelce 2.0??? 
 

All jokes aside now just thought it was a funny coincidence lol 

23 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Not going to hear that from me, I was for him from the beginning. Is Jurgens going to be an adjustment? Sure. Not written in stone yet as we now have several who are going to vie for C and RG. Jurgens was Kelces' choice when we got him, still is, so I'll trust him - at least for now. We'll see what happens in camp. OTC still has us at 29 mill cap space.

By the way, axing Bradberry June 1st only saves us like 4 mill, still on the hook for 11 next yr

I’m seeing it as a break even on this year’s cap exactly…but he’s on the books for tons in the future …so we get out from under all of that.

8 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I mean we drafted a C from NC State in the 6th round thats undersized and good athlete for his position. Kelce 2.0??? 
 

All jokes aside now just thought it was a funny coincidence lol 

I like McMahaon to tell you the truth. Jurgens already locked into the C job we know. Kind of like last season how he locked into the RG job. They can talk about competition and such…but Jurgens has to screw up pretty significant for them to make a changed I’d think.

Jurgens should be ok. He proved himself as a capable NFL player at RG. More natural C for sure in my view.

https://overthecap.com/player/james-bradberry/4775

He learned alongside the best. Kelce still talks him up and I don't think Kelce as a bs'er

We were at 16 mil dead cap…but that’s climbed to 38 already. More coming pretty obviously.

1 minute ago, mjkline1958 said:

He learned alongside the best. Kelce still talks him up and I don't think Kelce as a bs'er

Kelce is a loyal dude. Pretty much will back anybody and everybody been by his side. But Jurgens showed decent at G. So no reason to believe he’ll have a huge decline moving to his more natural position of C.

Obviously much more responsibility making the blocking assignment calls.

Boston Scott officially gone to the Rams

HR on taking Trotter Jr not as a legacy:

"You have to stick to your board,” Roseman said. "We can't make up a grade on any player just because we like them... You know, the best person I know in the world is my wife, and I don't want her playing linebacker for us either.”

11 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Are you actually saying here that Kelce was living off name recognition in his career? Completely false! Kelce was a player that lived up to the billing even his last season he played. Kelce didn’t have to retire because his level of play dropped off so hard. Kelce was playing at a high level even last season. Guy was a complete stud player…all the way. He earned that name recognition pretty much every single game of his career.

Let me ask you and I want a LIST. Define what makes a pro bowl center as opposed to just a regular one. Just that one position.Anxious for your response because there are other centers that are also pro bowlers. What is your criteria?

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Jurgens should be ok. He proved himself as a capable NFL player at RG. More natural C for sure in my view.

So now the drop off isn't all that significant like you were panicking on earlier? Another case of taking both sides so you can "call it" . It gets really old

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Kelce is a loyal dude. Pretty much will back anybody and everybody been by his side. But Jurgens showed decent at G. So no reason to believe he’ll have a huge decline moving to his more natural position of C.

Oh now the story is changing in typical Ham fashion HAHAHAHA. First there was going to be a near insurmountable drop off. Now it's "he was a decent G so he should be a good C" .I enjoy the flip flops,reminds me of living in FL,but you have more of them than they do

Completely consistent. Of course there will be a drop off from the best we’ve ever had at C to Jurgens. Duh! Just basic and obvious stuff I keep explaining to you …seemingly endlessly.