April 27, 20241 yr When you analyze a receiver's ability. Route running... catching.... running with the ball. That's really the only 3 things you do as a receiver. Blocking is an element for any offensive player without the ball. You break that down to 1. Point of attack....2. Downfield. 3 away from the ball/ backside. What was missing from our O...because Quez was pretty much just run down the field... are a lot of these elements. Perhaps it's why in Ham's mind Goedert sticks out. But I wouldn't say " replacing Goedert " I would say we need more all around ability at WR. Really at RB too.
April 27, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said: What stumps many is you acting like the players are replacing Geodart lmao they aren’t they are just other YAC players two completely different things 💯 More so due to Quez, Stoll being vanilla.
April 27, 20241 yr I just don’t understand why it wasn’t just simply we have more guys that can produce yards after the catch why does it have to be they replace Geodart? Realistically we should be looking to get guys in space and producing yards even with Geodart healthy and again taking advantage of the matchup
April 27, 20241 yr Can't find any udfa signings yet. Wasn't DJax "just a run down the field" guy? Those guys are great if the the QB can hit them at the mesh point between defenders. Then again that can be said about the QB and anybody - at any position - he throws it to.
April 27, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said: What stumps many is you acting like the players are replacing Geodart lmao they aren’t they are just other YAC players two completely different things I said filling in this one specific area that Goedert plays a key role of production. Made clear stating wasn’t talking about swing a TE2. Made clear wasn’t talking about everything Goedert does. But didn’t have anybody else to really fill the crucial role of production in the offense. Really super simple…other than position titles getting in you guys way. Not talking anything insane or groundbreaking here. Goedert has been our guy for that. Stoll wasn’t going to do it. Quez wasn’t going to do it. Julio wasn’t going to do it. Now we brought in some other options to make sure we not just don’t lose this element…but add to this production in our O.
April 27, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, joemas6 said: When you analyze a receiver's ability. Route running... catching.... running with the ball. That's really the only 3 things you do as a receiver. Blocking is an element for any offensive player without the ball. You break that down to 1. Point of attack....2. Downfield. 3 away from the ball/ backside. What was missing from our O...because Quez was pretty much just run down the field... are a lot of these elements. Perhaps it's why in Ham's mind Goedert sticks out. But I wouldn't say " replacing Goedert " I would say we need more all around ability at WR. Really at RB too. I stated replacing Goedert’s production in this one key area. Quez did more than just run downfield…he ran and dropped passes. He was a combination player.
April 27, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said: I just don’t understand why it wasn’t just simply we have more guys that can produce yards after the catch why does it have to be they replace Geodart? Realistically we should be looking to get guys in space and producing yards even with Geodart healthy and again taking advantage of the matchup It really was always pretty simple like that. It was just Goedert was the only guy that did that for us. DeVonta can some. But not what he need him doing so much. But more focused in on how the designed plays underneath pretty much just relying on the YAC setup…than getting open and catching the ball.
April 27, 20241 yr Just now, cunninghamtheman said: It really was always pretty simple like that. It was just Goedert was the only guy that did that for us. DeVonta can some. But not what he need him doing so much. But more focused in on how the designed plays underneath pretty much just relying on the YAC setup…than getting open and catching the ball. And for No Mas yes this includes the screens
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April 27, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, joemas6 said: 💯 More so due to Quez, Stoll being vanilla. Julio being old, OZ not being capable really of creating YAC…there you go…you get it…we didn’t have other options. It’s a whole element to the offense. It’s not coach specific even. Every O needs this element of production to offset…sometimes more crucially than others.
April 27, 20241 yr You can counter teams playing cloud over the top coverage or bringing the blitz very effectively by utilizing these designed YAC plays. Other Ds also…but these two is what we struggled to combat last season for sure.
April 28, 20241 yr 16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: It really was always pretty simple like that. It was just Goedert was the only guy that did that for us. DeVonta can some. But not what he need him doing so much. But more focused in on how the designed plays underneath pretty much just relying on the YAC setup…than getting open and catching the ball. But again this isn’t replacing Geodart that the main point everyone on the board has been making… Yes we all understand we hopefully have other guys that can produce yards after the catch and work the middle/underneath passing game but the way Smitb is going to do it or Barkley or Ship is going to be different then Geodart.
April 28, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said: But again this isn’t replacing Geodart that the main point everyone on the board has been making… Yes we all understand we hopefully have other guys that can produce yards after the catch and work the middle/underneath passing game but the way Smitb is going to do it or Barkley or Ship is going to be different then Geodart. These guys can replace Goedert’s production in this very key specific area of the O
April 28, 20241 yr Just now, cunninghamtheman said: These guys can replace Goedert’s production in this very key specific area of the O No they can’t they can provide YAC plays they can’t replace Geodart again two different things
April 28, 20241 yr Really I believe it will extend further than an add to it. We’ll see more of these plays utilized effectively. Believe it’s a key element in any O.
April 28, 20241 yr We are not going to be running Smith on the same plays we run Geodart. Can they both be guys that work the underneath and middles Of the field sure but they aren’t replacing each other.
April 28, 20241 yr Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said: YAC is not a position lol Exactly…no it is not. Made very clear wasn’t ever speaking about the TE2 position or anything like that. Even though still seems like you guys blocked that whole part out of the point I was attempting to get across.
April 28, 20241 yr Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said: We are not going to be running Smith on the same plays we run Geodart. Can they both be guys that work the underneath and middles Of the field sure but they aren’t replacing each other. Replacing the YAC designed specific plays production
April 28, 20241 yr Just now, cunninghamtheman said: Exactly…no it is not. Made very clear wasn’t ever speaking about the TE2 position or anything like that. Even though still seems like you guys blocked that whole part out of the point I was attempting to get across. Because your ass insistent on saying they are replacing Geodart lmao they aren’t….. just being able to provide YAC plays isn’t the same as replacing Geodart what don’t you understand about that.
April 28, 20241 yr Just now, cunninghamtheman said: Replacing the YAC designed specific plays production 1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said: We are not going to be running Smith on the same plays we run Geodart. Can they both be guys that work the underneath and middles Of the field sure but they aren’t replacing each other. But actually…yes some of them really are the exact same plays he’d be running instead of Goedert.
April 28, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: Replacing the YAC designed specific plays production Again you can just say we have other guys that can provide YAC plays hopefully they are not replacing Geodart.
April 28, 20241 yr Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said: Because your ass insistent on saying they are replacing Geodart lmao they aren’t….. just being able to provide YAC plays isn’t the same as replacing Geodart what don’t you understand about that. I kept saying Goedert was the only guy we had that could execute these specific area of the O effectively. So yes …we had nobody who could do these effectively when our TE1 was out. Never said replace Goedert’s whole job. Never said take over his TE1 job…in fact clearly pointed out this was not what I was speaking about.
April 28, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said: Again you can just say we have other guys that can provide YAC plays hopefully they are not replacing Geodart. That is what I said …I just went in to much more specific details contrasting last season from what we are going to have now.
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