April 30, 20241 yr Author 5 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said: Hoping this doesn’t stay lol though Gains would likely be a key piece still since he is the only other RB that can pass block besides Bark. But hope otherwise Ship overtakes Gains for RB2 In time,he has to pay his dues
April 30, 20241 yr Author 4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: You were saying the RB didn’t matter it was all Oline. You weren’t alone. But we definitely are going to see how a lesser Oline and a top RB works out. IDk that it's lesser. It's too soon to know. Just open a hole. Why I hope for less RPO and more play action. The RPO tends to freeze the O line. Maybe why those holes didn't appear. Bark doesn't need much of a window. He has a great burst, and he can punish LB's.
April 30, 20241 yr Author https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/2/12/17003364/rpo-run-pass-options-nfl-college-rules Some time ago,but a really good read
April 30, 20241 yr Author Still, there are major differences between how RPOs look in the college and pro games. In college, a forward pass beyond the line of scrimmage is illegal if any offensive linemen are more than 3 yards down the field. In the NFL, it’s a flag if a lineman is more than 1 yard downfield. That rule difference alone has a considerable impact, as college defensive coaches often point out. This is what I was talking bout. The RPO prevents any penetration by the Oline because it's "reactionary" to whatever the Qb decision/play is run or pass. And while we are good at it,I hope we use it LESS,which sounds a bit odd,but IMO it would be more functionary as something mixed in. Play action would allow the O line more freedom,but you need to establish the run first to make play action effective. We got a RB that can do that so I would like to see a little less RPO and more play action. Of course using Goedert properly is a big part of this especially the short game and hopefully the new Smith can add some windows for Hurts.
April 30, 20241 yr 29 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: In time,he has to pay his dues Well also have the Georgia RB came in undrafted. He’s a real legitimate shot to takeover RB3 also. Largest roadblock probably just being Siri. Gainwell is a solid RB3 himself…but Milton might be the rightful choice for the job.
April 30, 20241 yr 25 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: IDk that it's lesser. It's too soon to know. Just open a hole. Why I hope for less RPO and more play action. The RPO tends to freeze the O line. Maybe why those holes didn't appear. Bark doesn't need much of a window. He has a great burst, and he can punish LB's. Too soon to understand the loss of our All Time C?
April 30, 20241 yr Well, now we know the Eagles picks finally. Since I didn’t watch any of these young men play a single game, please give me your brief thoughts on each one. I’m nervous about a CB from Toledo. Dejean was a good pick at 40 from his draft projection. The 3rd pick? What the hell? As an offensive minded coach, I loved what I saw of highlights of Shipley. He is a weapon!…unless he doesn’t translate to the NFL. Anias? Replacing Covey? Is he an upgrade? I was disappointed they didn’t pick an O linemen until late, but it is what it is. I don’t want to go back and read the last 100 pages here, so any insight is appreciated.
April 30, 20241 yr Author 33 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Too soon to understand the loss of our All Time C? Why can't he do the job? You're assuming he can't before one snap has been taken? He was hand picked by Kelce. That's not good enough?
April 30, 20241 yr Author 2 minutes ago, Senhorcook said: Well, now we know the Eagles picks finally. Since I didn’t watch any of these young men play a single game, please give me your brief thoughts on each one. I’m nervous about a CB from Toledo. Dejean was a good pick at 40 from his draft projection. The 3rd pick? What the hell? As an offensive minded coach, I loved what I saw of highlights of Shipley. He is a weapon!…unless he doesn’t translate to the NFL. Anias? Replacing Covey? Is he an upgrade? I was disappointed they didn’t pick an O linemen until late, but it is what it is. I don’t want to go back and read the last 100 pages here, so any insight is appreciated. Ainias is not replacing Covey,he will replace Quez
April 30, 20241 yr Author 21 minutes ago, Senhorcook said: Well, now we know the Eagles picks finally. Since I didn’t watch any of these young men play a single game, please give me your brief thoughts on each one. I’m nervous about a CB from Toledo. Dejean was a good pick at 40 from his draft projection. The 3rd pick? What the hell? As an offensive minded coach, I loved what I saw of highlights of Shipley. He is a weapon!…unless he doesn’t translate to the NFL. Anias? Replacing Covey? Is he an upgrade? I was disappointed they didn’t pick an O linemen until late, but it is what it is. I don’t want to go back and read the last 100 pages here, so any insight is appreciated. I'm a bit leary about the #1 pick as well. Siri is a buddy of the coach I think. Alot of small school guys at the skill positions have trouble transitioning. We got him for his speed,a similar thing we did taking Reagor over JJ. Toledo not really in a bang up league,so we'll see how it goes. He was ranked high by most so he must have the skills.Pick 3 IDK. I was a little shocked by it,but 58 read up about him and I guess he is ok where we got him. Like you, I thought we would be more aggressive getting some O line in. There were some minor cuts today. Maybe Howie isn't done yet. Some players will be cut loose like we cut some today. perhaps there will be usable guys from that. This is all just my own opinion. I was pulling for getting Ainias Smith right from the start/ In my view he was the best SLOT WR in this draft(not best WR but best SLOT so that pick made me very happy) DeJean is the more NFL ready of the 2.I believe in time he will be an integral part of our secondary
April 30, 20241 yr Travis Kelce signed two year 34 mil extension. Crazy the all time TE can only make half that of WRs.
April 30, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Senhorcook said: Well, now we know the Eagles picks finally. Since I didn’t watch any of these young men play a single game, please give me your brief thoughts on each one. I’m nervous about a CB from Toledo. Dejean was a good pick at 40 from his draft projection. The 3rd pick? What the hell? As an offensive minded coach, I loved what I saw of highlights of Shipley. He is a weapon!…unless he doesn’t translate to the NFL. Anias? Replacing Covey? Is he an upgrade? I was disappointed they didn’t pick an O linemen until late, but it is what it is. I don’t want to go back and read the last 100 pages here, so any insight is appreciated. Toledo kid was the top CB in the draft…an elite stud. Not sure about Ainus replacing Covey. DeJean is the elite return man. Shipley should claim RB2 job as soon as Siri gets out of the way. NCSt Oline McMahon shows well at C. Jalyx Hunt is Fangio’s chosen player…so they reached. Huge upside in the S turned Edge though. It was a good strong draft. Pretty franchise changing that Rosie finally grabbed two DBs. Seriously changed the course with youth and speed.
April 30, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Why can't he do the job? You're assuming he can't before one snap has been taken? He was hand picked by Kelce. That's not good enough? Doesn’t feel like my assumption of lesser is any stretch from the best that’s ever done it.
April 30, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Doesn’t feel like my assumption of lesser is any stretch from the best that’s ever done it. Don’t even mean that as being a negative statement of Jurgens to say he isn’t Kelce.
April 30, 20241 yr How about the blocking calls from Jurgens? Does anybody expect him to do that part even at the same level Kelce was?
April 30, 20241 yr 30 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: How about the blocking calls from Jurgens? Does anybody expect him to do that part even at the same level Kelce was? No I don’t think any of us can expect that in his first season at Center and honestly even his first couple or few. More is going to be on Hurts to see things and call them. But at least Jurgens has spent 2 years working with Kelce so I’m sure that’s been a real help.
April 30, 20241 yr Author 8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: Doesn’t feel like my assumption of lesser is any stretch from the best that’s ever done it. DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED. Once you do something,alot is name recognition afterwards. So you have your excuse built in already eh? How did KC win the SB if we had the best ever C? We shoulda whooped TB's arse last year. Without the tush push Hurts will actually have to play QB now
April 30, 20241 yr Author 8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: How about the blocking calls from Jurgens? Does anybody expect him to do that part even at the same level Kelce was? Yes I expect him to, it's his job. Why would we field an incomplete C???? He learned nothing from Kelce in 2 years? Nobody figured out he was the heir and acted to teach him in 2 years? It's time for him to take the reins and play now. He had to have learned in all this time. He's not fresh off the banana boat and I can't say he is on par with Kelce,big shoes to fill,but maybe he shoots for being a pro bowler as well. Someone has to be there, why not Jurgens? Let's see what he's got before making any assumptions as to whether is he lesser,as good, or possibly better because we DON'T know anything yet.As he plays he will learn the players he faces tendencies as they will his. It happens with every new player,but I seriously doubt we field a guy that can't do it. If he wasn't ready, or lacked the skills, we would have either gotten a FA or drafted C and it was obvious to me we avoided doing it in the draft, so they must feel he is ready to go. Plus he is younger and on the way UP,so I won't pre judge him and he has another camp also,so almost 3 years to get this down
April 30, 20241 yr 10 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: Too soon to understand the loss of our All Time C? Yes....too soon because we need to see how the OL plays on the field. Good call... I agree ..too soon. Too soon fir pretty much everything right now.
April 30, 20241 yr 8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: How about the blocking calls from Jurgens? Does anybody expect him to do that part even at the same level Kelce was? Nothing has happened yet.. could be more upgrade at RG vs a drop off in C. Could be different plays/ scheme thst changed things...etc.
April 30, 20241 yr This is just such an obvious situation of Jurgens being a drop off in his experience making the calls from Kelce. Just so basic that Jurgens isn’t coming in at the level of best ever player all around. Kelce unbelievable unwavering leadership qualities. Can the discussion here ever revolve around reality?
April 30, 20241 yr Frankly it’s just completely disrespectful or telling of a complete lack of recognition for what we have been witnessing all these years from our C.
April 30, 20241 yr Author 7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: This is just such an obvious situation of Jurgens being a drop off in his experience making the calls from Kelce. Just so basic that Jurgens isn’t coming in at the level of best ever player all around. Kelce unbelievable unwavering leadership qualities. Can the discussion here ever revolve around reality? Yes he lacks experience,how does he get that? How does any player we replace get that? That is reality,now what do you want to do about it????
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