18 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So you’re saying all 32 ST coaches will be doing exactly the same approach? Not buying that.

Did I say that?   Why do you constantly put words in other people's mouths.  And always extreme.    I'm saying there isn't going to be 5000 approached here.  Only so much they can do. going to come down to the players

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You just aren’t capable of comprehending any actual strategy that can occur beyond a singular run and everybody attack no philosophy approach. We’ll see what happens. I feel confident in my thinking that we will see different tactics unfold on this play. Time will tell.

LOL... what creative things do you think ... other than a pulling blocker?    What can be done here.   Where nobody can move... until the returner gets the ball?   I agree we will see 5 to 10 different things that I just said... you act like its going to be 3000?   

Block straight... block right... block left.... pull... come back side... lateral or reverse.       How may other strategies do you see here with this formation and nobody being able to move prior to the catch?   

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You just aren’t capable of comprehending any actual strategy that can occur beyond a singular run and everybody attack no philosophy approach. We’ll see what happens. I feel confident in my thinking that we will see different tactics unfold on this play. Time will tell.

Did you read the article?   That was from the league.

So a big one here.... a ball that lands in the landing zone (inside the 20) ... and rolls into the end zone for a touchback... goes to the 20!

So... I would assume the returning team will look to place 2 returners... to prevent the kicker from trying to kick it past the returner.  That leaves the return team with 9 blockers engaged with 10 cover guys.  That's interesting.  

We will see kickoffs be lower now, hang time works against the kicking team.  Almost like they are trying to score a goal.. land the ball inside the 20 but make it go fast and low.

Nice!

If I kicked off.... I would try for that touchback to the 20 every time.  

25 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So does it matter for a guy like Bradberry to make the team considering he doesn’t play ST?

OK... so you know how you go off in a different direction during a conversation and makes it difficult to follow.

So.... how does watching the hall of fame game... and or.... hoping the Eagles let the other team score more during preseason.... so you can see kickoffs.... how does that effect Bradberry?    If we let the other team score more in preseason... does that help Bradberry make the team?    Does it hurt him?    When you watch the hall of fame game tonight... how will that change your view of Bradberry making the team?  

 

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Not at all...  as was clearly stated ( even though you never pay attention to any other poster but yourself)  intangibles absolutely matter...but you need the tangibles first.

Plenty of people have the intangibles to be a part of a team and even to lead one.... but they couldn't play QB without tangible skills.... see the field and make a throw. 

How about those laces eh????

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

OK... so you know how you go off in a different direction during a conversation and makes it difficult to follow.

So.... how does watching the hall of fame game... and or.... hoping the Eagles let the other team score more during preseason.... so you can see kickoffs.... how does that effect Bradberry?    If we let the other team score more in preseason... does that help Bradberry make the team?    Does it hurt him?    When you watch the hall of fame game tonight... how will that change your view of Bradberry making the team?  

 

I was mentioning how crucial ST factors into roster decisions. Bradberry not playing any ST does that become a factor? Just variables at play you aren’t factoring in.

The kicker isn't allowed to cross the 50 .. until the ball is touched or lands in the landing zone.   

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I was mentioning how crucial ST factors into roster decisions. Bradberry not playing any ST does that become a factor? Just variables at play you aren’t factoring in.

Or is it like you pretty much suggest nothing matters…. Just whatever players out there?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I was mentioning how crucial ST factors into roster decisions. Bradberry not playing any ST does that become a factor? Just variables at play you aren’t factoring in.

And .... 1 + 1 = 2.   We all know this, my question is why bring it up in you wanting us to let the other team score more in preseason?  Etc?   

Are you going to zone or man block the return?

Will you attack the blockers specifically trying to get a gunner through to make a play?

Details and nuances that you always bulldoze over their role in plays

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Or is it like you pretty much suggest nothing matters…. Just whatever players out there?

LOL... again.  Do you expect to see the players that will make the roster,... play on kickoffs during preseason games?   Or do you expect more guys who won't make the roster be out there?   now we know kicker and return guys will probably be guys who are in the plans to make the team... of the other 19 guys... you really think we need to make the other team score more, so we can see more kickoffs with guys who aren't going to be on the roster?   You expect creative strategies during preseason?  

Yes I think we could benefit especially to start our season by getting in more PS returns

So what round should I take Mahomes drafting from 10th? I got him with pick 34(practice)

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Are you going to zone or man block the return?

You don't have layers here.... again... other than... block the guy in front of you... block the guy to the right... block the guy to the left... pull ... what else do you expect here?  

Think about it... while you try to go block the guy thats 4 guys away... he is going to move forward... there isn't going to be too much time to set up blocks.  

AS THE VIDEO SAYS... WE KNOW YOU WATCHED THIS AND ARE SPEAKING FROM EDUCATED POINT OF VIEW.. not an ignorant one that wouldn't watch the video put out by the league....

It is supposed to simulate a play from scrimmage.  

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes I think we could benefit especially to start our season by getting in more PS returns

I mean... every rep everywhere helps right.    As Arnold said, there are no bad exercises.    Just I don't put too much stock in 2 extra returns in a preseason game than the hundreds they will do in practice.  

The beauty of this new rule.... it will be easier to simulate in practice over and over again, because only the kicker has to go back to the kick off line.  Much different than 10 guys running full speed for 60 yards and then having to do it over again

But hey, maybe that is too complicated for some people to understand here?    A scrimmage type play, can be practiced a ton as compared to the old school kickoffs.  Similar to practicing handoffs can be done on a larger scale than throwing long passes down field... at a much more efficient rate!  

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So what round should I take Mahomes drafting from 10th? I got him with pick 34(practice)

My guess is 34 or 39 ... doubt he is there 58

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So what round should I take Mahomes drafting from 10th? I got him with pick 34(practice)

Too early at 10 or 15

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Will you attack the blockers specifically trying to get a gunner through to make a play?

What is a gunner on a scrimmage play?   Again... instead of letting he imagination take over... just go watch the video the league sent out.

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Details and nuances that you always bulldoze over their role in plays

Absolutely not... again though.  Brush up on the rules,... or just watch so then your mind won't wonder as per usual.    " The gunner"   lol

Just curious... on a run play from scrimmage... is the NT considered a gunner because he is just trying to occupy blocks?  

Don't really care for the new KO rules,except for 1 aspect. It stops kickers from kicking into the EZ. They need to be more accurate now. Best kick(as I understand it) would be to have it hit the landing zone and skip into the EZ untouched. IMO there are too many rules to where the ball gets placed after the kick(if not returned). I suppose I need to see it in action,but I don't like more complications