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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Burying your head in the sand that you think anyone but Hurts is worried about a collapse from last year. 

Who will miss a block,  tackle or catch because of last year being on their mind? 

Seems like the main topic all offseason from the media and fans about our team has been the collapse. To ignore it is the burying your head in the sand.

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The QB will be blitzed... that is left over from last year....how he handles it will be the thing from 2023. 

Your issue is the QB is the entire team. 

It's why it was a growing up year for your boy.   Lurie didn't want another Wentz... he told him to shut the F##$ up and play.  Fired his babysitter OC...and told him to grow a set and stop the negative body language during games and all the dumb cliches etc.  

If you don't see it... then you are the one with your head in the sand.

What do you think the main thing our real coaches have been doing with Hurts? If it hasn’t been teaching and coming up with blitz beating options to counter the blueprint the Niners laid out last season …their failing.

Just now, joemas6 said:

The QB will be blitzed... that is left over from last year....how he handles it will be the thing from 2023. 

Your issue is the QB is the entire team. 

It's why it was a growing up year for your boy.   Lurie didn't want another Wentz... he told him to shut the F##$ up and play.  Fired his babysitter OC...and told him to grow a set and stop the negative body language during games and all the dumb cliches etc.  

If you don't see it... then you are the one with your head in the sand.

Blitz should have the blocking make reads. Blitz should have receivers make Hot routes. QB adjusting. None if this was occurring last season.

Have no idea how you could be oblivious to the collapse cloud. A slow start and it’s coming on hard. Any losing streak it’s coming on. 

There are some messed up dynamics that reared their head last season. I don’t think it was all Siri alienating players. I think it also was fed by the FO undercutting coaches. Felt like maybe coaches were saying one thing trying to keep the team together….and Rosie stepped way in to the football side of things. Fired Desai. 

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Critiquing is one thing. But just constantly ignoring all his strengths and focusing solely on his weaknesses or any mistake is ridiculous.

Dude...  if we are talking about something specific.... we are discussing just that.  That's what normal people do!

If I'm talking about how slow Tom Brady is as a runner...it's specifically just that. 

That is your issue that you have to work on...you have an inability to do that!   

Specifically I mentioned how the media was enamored with Chip using a remote control car to simulate motion...then Chip became my boy?

Do you think Chip did anything better than AR while he was here? Did Doug do anything better. Has Siri done anything better?

Your problem is if someone else likes or critiques ONE SPECIFIC THING... you have to say " hater" or " licking nuts"  

You don't live in the normal world the rest of us do where people don't do everything either 100% right or wrong.

We discuss specifics.  You can't do that.  That's your issue...not ours 

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The QB will be blitzed... that is left over from last year....how he handles it will be the thing from 2023. 

Your issue is the QB is the entire team. 

It's why it was a growing up year for your boy.   Lurie didn't want another Wentz... he told him to shut the F##$ up and play.  Fired his babysitter OC...and told him to grow a set and stop the negative body language during games and all the dumb cliches etc.  

If you don't see it... then you are the one with your head in the sand.

See your hatred for Hurts just blinds you. You can only see our O struggles as a Hurts issue. It wasn’t…it’s not. It was a HC issue. It was a whole O issue.

23 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They have proven to be rock solid HC. They don’t get all emotional and flip. They are the mature leader boss types. They stay even keeled and it rubs off on their team. They don’t make decisions based off emotion. They aren’t the ones need babysitting. They are the adults. They understand the bigger goals. They wouldn’t risk their star players in a game they clearly didn’t need to play…much less they would have had their teams ready to play week 18 if so.

Wow....so again...nothing football related then?  

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Dude...  if we are talking about something specific.... we are discussing just that.  That's what normal people do!

If I'm talking about how slow Tom Brady is as a runner...it's specifically just that. 

That is your issue that you have to work on...you have an inability to do that!   

Specifically I mentioned how the media was enamored with Chip using a remote control car to simulate motion...then Chip became my boy?

Do you think Chip did anything better than AR while he was here? Did Doug do anything better. Has Siri done anything better?

Your problem is if someone else likes or critiques ONE SPECIFIC THING... you have to say " hater" or " licking nuts"  

You don't live in the normal world the rest of us do where people don't do everything either 100% right or wrong.

We discuss specifics.  You can't do that.  That's your issue...not ours 

I just call things like I see them. Gainwell wasn’t performing but getting shoved into playing time …I called it out as not right. Gainwell had a strong TC this year I flipped and congratulated him…on actually earning it now.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

See your hatred for Hurts just blinds you. You can only see our O struggles as a Hurts issue. It wasn’t…it’s not. It was a HC issue. It was a whole O issue.

No hatred.  It's why I laugh at your " master plan" idea that an OC you don't even consider a top O mind is going to be promoted to HC and Lurie fires Siri if they are successful.  

Just stupid idea.  Siri only gets fired for failing ...not the team succeeding.

I don’t see things just black and white. Good or bad. Everybody has multiple sides and does good and bad at different times. I just observe and give my opinions accordingly.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Wow....so again...nothing football related then?  

You just ignore everything that goes into a team and leadership

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

No hatred.  It's why I laugh at your " master plan" idea that an OC you don't even consider a top O mind is going to be promoted to HC and Lurie fires Siri if they are successful.  

Just stupid idea.  Siri only gets fired for failing ...not the team succeeding.

No idea why you can’t understand each offseason the GM coming up with his master plan for the season. Just basic and obvious that every GM does. Just more thoughtful than your one player at a time level thinking. There is a salary cap…only so many available players. Your current roster to build on.

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Have no idea how you could be oblivious to the collapse cloud. A slow start and it’s coming on hard. Any losing streak it’s coming on. 

A slow start means 2024 is starting off slow.  A losing streak is bad for 2024

2023 is done.   Again....the young players who haven't developed yet.... 2023 has nothing to do with that.   

The only player in question from 2023 that went backwards...is the QB.

For you ...the QB is the only one on the team...except when it comes time to pass blame. But you only look from his perspective. 

Tell me which other player is having their own personal game under a cloud from 2023 ...to where of they personally don't start out well, that it is leftover from 2023 in their own head?

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

No hatred.  It's why I laugh at your " master plan" idea that an OC you don't even consider a top O mind is going to be promoted to HC and Lurie fires Siri if they are successful.  

Just stupid idea.  Siri only gets fired for failing ...not the team succeeding.

The stupid idea was keeping Siri on as HC. Now I’m a bit understanding because I believe it’s because the FO wasn’t thrilled with the HC prospects this offseason. Top two OCs decided they were staying in Detroit and Texas. So next offseason those top two candidates will be available. Most likely another candidate emerges or two also. So they basically just cut Siri out of the loop. Hired Fangio and gave him total control over the D. A move that would be made under Siri or another O minded HC. Then they hired the best they could to take over the O. Gave him control on that side. He isn’t running Siri’s O now. Totally his own O.

It's out there now.... people in the national media think that Hurts needs to prove himself. 

Prove he can handle a blitz and prove he is worth the money.

Us here have all said how excited we are to see him and the team play in 2024.  Should be his best year.

Idk why you have issues with having expectations for who you believe is the best QB in franchise history?

Unless you really think a guy who doesn't call the plays ... talking trash to an obnoxious Giants fan in a diner is such a huge thing to overcome? 

If the best QB in franchise history is focused on that instead of the play calls.... then we have issues.

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You just ignore everything that goes into a team and leadership

But name specific things.  All you do I talk vague stuff. Name something. 

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t see things just black and white. Good or bad. Everybody has multiple sides and does good and bad at different times. I just observe and give my opinions accordingly.

You never name one good thing from Howie or Siri....or one bad thing from Hurts or any 49ers coach or GM.

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The stupid idea was keeping Siri on as HC. Now I’m a bit understanding because I believe it’s because the FO wasn’t thrilled with the HC prospects this offseason. Top two OCs decided they were staying in Detroit and Texas. So next offseason those top two candidates will be available. Most likely another candidate emerges or two also. So they basically just cut Siri out of the loop. Hired Fangio and gave him total control over the D. A move that would be made under Siri or another O minded HC. Then they hired the best they could to take over the O. Gave him control on that side. He isn’t running Siri’s O now. Totally his own O.

Again ... your emotions regarding Siri ...are clouding your judgment.  Similar to your emotions regarding Hurts.

The rules are simple...

If Ham doesn't Iike a person... one mistake and that's it.

If Ham likes a guy....then we must find blame elsewhere,  never that man's fault.

53 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

It's out there now.... people in the national media think that Hurts needs to prove himself. 

Prove he can handle a blitz and prove he is worth the money.

Us here have all said how excited we are to see him and the team play in 2024.  Should be his best year.

Idk why you have issues with having expectations for who you believe is the best QB in franchise history?

Unless you really think a guy who doesn't call the plays ... talking trash to an obnoxious Giants fan in a diner is such a huge thing to overcome? 

If the best QB in franchise history is focused on that instead of the play calls.... then we have issues.

See and why are you grinding on him over the blitz? Or some media. Really the Niners called it out. You can only blame Hurts. I understand why he was upset over this. Siri didn’t have any answers for this. We had no coach to adapt. So is a Hurts issue. 

54 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You never name one good thing from Howie or Siri....or one bad thing from Hurts or any 49ers coach or GM.

Just not true. I point out the good and the bad as they make decisions and perform their duties. On the spot I give my opinions.

But so much slurping up Rosie and hating on Hurts it’s hard for things to not come off a bit lopsided since I seem like the only one on the both sides. 

55 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You never name one good thing from Howie or Siri....or one bad thing from Hurts or any 49ers coach or GM.

I named tons of things positive about Rosie. BS

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