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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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54 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The rules are simple...

If Ham doesn't Iike a person... one mistake and that's it.

If Ham likes a guy....then we must find blame elsewhere,  never that man's fault.

That’s you. I just call things like I see them. On both sides. But I don’t dig to fit my agenda. Just actually get to the root cause of why?

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59 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You never name one good thing from Howie or Siri....or one bad thing from Hurts or any 49ers coach or GM.

I’ve given Siri full credit for how he’s detailed the Brotherly Shove. He totally detailed and perfected it.

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

See and why are you grinding on him over the blitz? Or some media. Really the Niners called it out. You can only blame Hurts. I understand why he was upset over this. Siri didn’t have any answers for this. We had no coach to adapt. So is a Hurts issue. 

AGAIN.... I'm the messenger here....this is the narrative in the national media. 

There is no only blaming Hurts here. 

This is the perception of what people think will be the Eagles weakness on the offensive side.  That's what they like to talk about. 

You even say....Siri lost the team....show me any mention other than Hurts about Siri losing anyone?

Anything 2023... as far as a cloud hanging over a player...is Hurts.   

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

AGAIN.... I'm the messenger here....this is the narrative in the national media. 

There is no only blaming Hurts here. 

This is the perception of what people think will be the Eagles weakness on the offensive side.  That's what they like to talk about. 

You even say....Siri lost the team....show me any mention other than Hurts about Siri losing anyone?

Anything 2023... as far as a cloud hanging over a player...is Hurts.   

Leaks were happening before the collapse from the locker room. You choose to ignore.

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

AGAIN.... I'm the messenger here....this is the narrative in the national media. 

There is no only blaming Hurts here. 

This is the perception of what people think will be the Eagles weakness on the offensive side.  That's what they like to talk about. 

You even say....Siri lost the team....show me any mention other than Hurts about Siri losing anyone?

Anything 2023... as far as a cloud hanging over a player...is Hurts.   

Why a cloud over Hurts then in your opinion?

But I always understood how the simple football fans always target the QB good or bad. So I get that. Doesn’t bother me too much. But I could see things as a problem stemming from loss of O mind coaching. We had nobody that could adapt the O. Even the top coaches have tendencies and tells that get figured out periodically. Part of the game. But the good ones self scout and can adapt to what opponents figure out on them.

So if you are any QB….you’d want a top O system and Coach. It would be frustrating to look bad. Not have answers to fix problems.

I mean I was noticing the problems before the collapse last season. Pointing it all out. Some of these blitz counters shouldn’t have been so hard to come up with to try.

So why do you only see blitz countering as a Hurts issue only?

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Leaks were happening before the collapse from the locker room. You choose to ignore.

Which player other than Hurts was said to have issues with Siri?

Just now, joemas6 said:

Which player other than Hurts was said to have issues with Siri?

It's a very specific question that you should have an answer.   

But...if you don't... then there isn't any other specific player other than Hurts who has 2023 cloud hanging over their head.

It would be Bradberry...but we know he isn't going to play.

Yes it’s just Hurts that collapsed. Rest of the team was great other than our QB play.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes it’s just Hurts that collapsed. Rest of the team was great other than our QB play.

Again....you are talking about a supposed cloud hanging over the players from last year. 

I'm telling you there was Hurts and Bradberry that took the step backwards last year.  The young Georgia defensive players haven't arrived yet, their issue is natural progression not of a " collapse" from last year.  

Who else needs to prove themselves from last year to where if they have a bad game week 1....it gets tied into last year?

They are starting 0-0.   Fresh new season.  

Any negative from last year.... take away Bradberry because he isn't going to play  

Take away the QB and what is supposed to be an issue picking up the blitz and a relationship issue with the coach...

What else do you see an issue that is lingering or having a cloud from last year over any other player? 

Who else misses a block, a tackle or drops a ball...and people are going to think it's because of 2023? 

I got one... Josh Sweat...he starts off slow and I could see people saying he sucked at the end of last year and still sucks now.   There is one for sure.

Let’s go Friday night football so we can stop talking about last year and move on to 2024-25 season 

Speaking of the season got king Henry playing tomorrow hope he has a strong debut game for the Ravens…. Solid 3tds lol 

The big news of the day... White not making the trip to Brazil.   Rumors that he was on the trading block.  

 

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11 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Lol...the team is 0-0.   There is one player who has any 2023 negative to overcome. That is your QB.   Who else has had any negative issues from 2023 other than Bradberry who we know won't play. 

It's just the young defensive players from Georgia.... but nothing that has to do with any collapse,  just simply that they need to prove themselves.  

I do think Hurts feels it some... but that absolutely isn't hanging over the team.

Hater

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11 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I can dispute any critique. But I’m fine with any factual legit areas anybody wishes for him to improve. I’ve agreed he has several areas still to improve. He just needs a quality coach to teach him these things. Clearly it’s not because he isn’t coachable or won’t put in the work. But calling him JV, One Read and Run and a choker isn’t critique…or accurate.

If I called them bonehead plays that would make you feel better?

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11 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Blitz should have the blocking make reads. Blitz should have receivers make Hot routes. QB adjusting. None if this was occurring last season.

Hurts came out and BLAMED Kelce. Still want to talk about disrespect??? Your boy just did it. DIsrespecing all all pro C that was here before him is ludicrous,so why aren't you calling Hurts out for it?(hypocrit)

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If we have a bad series in Brazil,it will be that damn clouds fault

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts came out and BLAMED Kelce.

Hurts has the control he will make the reads and the protection calls, he has the supporting cast, he is 100% healthy. Moore going to give him plenty of opportunities to attack all over the field in the passing game.

Really no excuses for the O this season to not thrive 

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

The big news of the day... White not making the trip to Brazil.   Rumors that he was on the trading block.  

 

He injured his ankle at practice was the official story

Wow I didn’t realize how brutal the opening 4 games are for us to start the season.

Traveling to Brazil to face a good Packers team 

Returning to play a underrated Falcons team with Kirk who always plays us well 

New Orleans/TB the following two weeks and both those teams play us tough hard fought battles.

Really hoping we come out of it at least 2-2 would be huge 

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