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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Sounds like the logic behind the 2011 defense...." built to play with a lead" 

It always starts 0-0.

Not the same at all. That team had all the confidence in the world going in. This squad has that terrible collapse cloud hanging over them like it or not.

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2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Like Tomlin or Harbaugh?

You really comparing Siri to Harbaugh and Tomlin?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

You really comparing Siri to Harbaugh and Tomlin?

Is there really that thought in your head that Siri belongs on that level with those two very proven fantastic coaches?

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

He could actually win a championship?  Something he hasn't done yet in college or the pros.

Should easily break the franchise records for passing yards and passing TDs.....since as a passer he absolutely has the best passing targets to pass the ball to than any other passer has has to pass the ball. 

And you could argue the league now is more of a passing league than it has ever been considered before when our other passers were passing the ball to their passing targets.

That's probably one of the tests that Hurts could pass? 

I just can’t believe you watched the same game as me in that SB. That if everybody for our side…you look to blame him and put that SB loss on him is just ridiculous.

10 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s accomplished so much all under Siri is the most glaring strength. Just imagine if he had AR….

The 2022 season will be the least memorable of all the SB appearances...there was no opponent that was considered any quality victory pretty much all season after the SF QBs were knocked out. 

Just trying to imagine how any of the other top 5 or so QBs in our franchise history could have actually not made the SB? 

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If you were honest you would also see what steps he needs to make,but you just use excuses

like I said I’m fine with critiquing his play. That’s not what you do. You tearing down our team leader saying he’s JV and chokes. Those aren’t critics or accurate. Just hating on our team since Wentz left.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

The 2022 season will be the least memorable of all the SB appearances...there was no opponent that was considered any quality victory pretty much all season after the SF QBs were knocked out. 

Just trying to imagine how any of the other top 5 or so QBs in our franchise history could have actually not made the SB? 

I’ve seen many quality teams that were expected to get double digit wins underachieve in my time watching this team. Plenty of losses to teams that weren’t nearly as good. Hurts and our team did what they had to do.

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The 2022 season will be the least memorable of all the SB appearances...there was no opponent that was considered any quality victory pretty much all season after the SF QBs were knocked out. 

Just trying to imagine how any of the other top 5 or so QBs in our franchise history could have actually not made the SB? 

Trying to imagine how many coaches and especially players didn’t show up that SB for us. So many. A few guys proved they can get it done in the big game. I can work with those guys.

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not the same at all. That team had all the confidence in the world going in. This squad has that terrible collapse cloud hanging over them like it or not.

Lol...the team is 0-0.   There is one player who has any 2023 negative to overcome. That is your QB.   Who else has had any negative issues from 2023 other than Bradberry who we know won't play. 

It's just the young defensive players from Georgia.... but nothing that has to do with any collapse,  just simply that they need to prove themselves.  

I do think Hurts feels it some... but that absolutely isn't hanging over the team.

Burying your head in the sand ignoring the ugly collapse cloud hanging over our head from last season isn’t going to make it go away. Just better to face reality and deal with it head on.

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You really comparing Siri to Harbaugh and Tomlin?

What do those guys bring ... other than your personal hatred doesn't exist for those two? 

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Is there really that thought in your head that Siri belongs on that level with those two very proven fantastic coaches?

What play calling did they do?  What specifically did they bring?   What was their function? 

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I just can’t believe you watched the same game as me in that SB. That if everybody for our side…you look to blame him and put that SB loss on him is just ridiculous.

Yeah...go watch....some brutal passes.  Ironically...the best pass thrown was dropped by Quez. 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

What do those guys bring ... other than your personal hatred doesn't exist for those two? 

They have proven to be rock solid HC. They don’t get all emotional and flip. They are the mature leader boss types. They stay even keeled and it rubs off on their team. They don’t make decisions based off emotion. They aren’t the ones need babysitting. They are the adults. They understand the bigger goals. They wouldn’t risk their star players in a game they clearly didn’t need to play…much less they would have had their teams ready to play week 18 if so.

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

What do those guys bring ... other than your personal hatred doesn't exist for those two? 

I don’t hate. I just observe and call it like I see it. 

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yeah...go watch....some brutal passes.  Ironically...the best pass thrown was dropped by Quez. 

I have watched many times. Best player on the field. 

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

like I said I’m fine with critiquing his play. That’s not what you do. You tearing down our team leader saying he’s JV and chokes. Those aren’t critics or accurate. Just hating on our team since Wentz left.

But you aren't fine with anyone critiquing his play.   You absolutely are not.  You label them haters. 

When we mention a specific.. you always change the subject to something else....You PASS right on bye what we are critiquing. 

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

What play calling did they do?  What specifically did they bring?   What was their function? 

Siri was running our O when its faltered. A non playcalling HC can work. But he should be most things that Siri is not. Siri got the job because he was supposed to be an O mind. He got it because Rosie won’t hire big coaches demanding any power. Mostly he got the job based on his coordinator package he was bringing. Those guys are gone. Himself he doesn’t bring much to the table. We can put tons of guys as HC with an OC and DC completely running their side of the ball. Rosie is pretty much the CEO here. Doesn’t my need a HC that doesn’t do any of the CEO HC job descriptions.

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

like I said I’m fine with critiquing his play. That’s not what you do. You tearing down our team leader saying he’s JV and chokes. Those aren’t critics or accurate. Just hating on our team since Wentz left.

Who cares about Wentz?   He hasn't been relevant here except for getting us quality draft picks and players ...since 2020?  

Dude you have issues... let go of the 2017 SF clearing cap.....2019 Malik and DeSean Jackson.... 2020 disaster... and everything else.

These are qualities you see in women when they just can't move on emotionally.  

14 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’ve seen many quality teams that were expected to get double digit wins underachieve in my time watching this team. Plenty of losses to teams that weren’t nearly as good. Hurts and our team did what they had to do.

Yes...that's what the coach brings.... they won games they should have won.   He kept them on point.  They didn't have to overcome anything from him in 2022. 

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

But you aren't fine with anyone critiquing his play.   You absolutely are not.  You label them haters. 

When we mention a specific.. you always change the subject to something else....You PASS right on bye what we are critiquing. 

I can dispute any critique. But I’m fine with any factual legit areas anybody wishes for him to improve. I’ve agreed he has several areas still to improve. He just needs a quality coach to teach him these things. Clearly it’s not because he isn’t coachable or won’t put in the work. But calling him JV, One Read and Run and a choker isn’t critique…or accurate.

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Who cares about Wentz?   He hasn't been relevant here except for getting us quality draft picks and players ...since 2020?  

Dude you have issues... let go of the 2017 SF clearing cap.....2019 Malik and DeSean Jackson.... 2020 disaster... and everything else.

These are qualities you see in women when they just can't move on emotionally.  

I’m clearly the one that moved right on from Wentz to Hurts. Not my issue.

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Burying your head in the sand ignoring the ugly collapse cloud hanging over our head from last season isn’t going to make it go away. Just better to face reality and deal with it head on.

Burying your head in the sand that you think anyone but Hurts is worried about a collapse from last year. 

Who will miss a block,  tackle or catch because of last year being on their mind? 

Critiquing is one thing. But just constantly ignoring all his strengths and focusing solely on his weaknesses or any mistake is ridiculous.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Burying your head in the sand that you think anyone but Hurts is worried about a collapse from last year. 

Who will miss a block,  tackle or catch because of last year being on their mind? 

You constantly miss everything that goes into things. So much more that effects things than you realize.

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