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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Who is supposed to teach him basic football skills? 3,5,7 step drop,use all the tools.Make a decision and release the ball. Step up,plant,throw. Stop with all the philosophical stuff. If he can't master the basics nobody can teach him other things or he fights learning them. Check your D,see a blitz coming? Adjust and get the ball out. Basic QB stuff

What if he checks the D and it’s exactly the blitz everybody is expecting…yet that’s been the tool he was given to try and beat it? I mean last season how it ended we very much knew what was coming…yet Siri was calling that play…a terrible one to call to beat that D. Who’s Hurts supposed to be following about how to adjust…if the HC calling the plays in his O clearly doesn’t have the answers?

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5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Like do you really think in 2021-2024... that 3 different OCs didn't have any " hot routes" or audibles within their offenses?  

Really?  All 3 of them?   Or do you honestly believe that the head coach would say... " hey on my team we don't have any hot routes"?

Like you think Siri made his way up the ranks to head coach and never had or doesn't  believe in the idea of hot routes?

On any level he coached or played, you think he prefers not to have any hot routes?

This is what you are suggesting... and you can't see how ridiculous this sounds?

So then why when everybody in the stadium knew the heavy blitz was coming did everybody go long so often? First off…why is Siri calling that(yes I believe Siri was very dominantly running the O last season not Johnson like you seem to believe just because he was promoted to OC). If the coach had the answer…why didn’t he just call that play to beat it? 

12 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I could maybe start believing this to be true once we actually score a single point in the first quarter. Your opinion is extremely optimistic right at this moment. I thank you for that.

In 2022 didn’t we have a problem with scoring in a particular quarter? I’m sure I remember us not scoring in a quarter and then they almost went the other way with it and corrected it but then in doing so stopped scoring points in another quarter.

12 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just no way Goedert is top three. He is capable of having a great day. But he can’t ever suit up for an entire season. Really like how he is quality at blocking and YAC Creation.

I mean I did say he’s not top 3… 

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2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So then why when everybody in the stadium knew the heavy blitz was coming did everybody go long so often? First off…why is Siri calling that(yes I believe Siri was very dominantly running the O last season not Johnson like you seem to believe just because he was promoted to OC). If the coach had the answer…why didn’t he just call that play to beat it? 

Call a time out and talk it over

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1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

In 2022 didn’t we have a problem with scoring in a particular quarter? I’m sure I remember us not scoring in a quarter and then they almost went the other way with it and corrected it but then in doing so stopped scoring points in another quarter.

I mean I did say he’s not top 3… 

He easily coulod be if they increase his target share. We know he can play,so why not use all the tools?

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2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So then why when everybody in the stadium knew the heavy blitz was coming did everybody go long so often? First off…why is Siri calling that(yes I believe Siri was very dominantly running the O last season not Johnson like you seem to believe just because he was promoted to OC). If the coach had the answer…why didn’t he just call that play to beat it? 

He has to call a play HURTS can beat. With his limitations,sometimes that's hard. What your dream call is may be out of Hurts ability range. This is why Goedert and TE 2 are so important to this offense. bark can also run patterns as we already know. On a blitz drop a quick short pass to Goedert and let him go. Without him you need that reliable slot or Barkley ,but on a blitz bark should stay back and block. This is where Gainwell comes in. If you win those the blitzing will stop

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24 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Love JB's analysis. He's really good and concise. Hopkins would be an interesting add for us. He still has some gas in the tank and it would be nice to get him a ring

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What if he checks the D and it’s exactly the blitz everybody is expecting…yet that’s been the tool he was given to try and beat it? I mean last season how it ended we very much knew what was coming…yet Siri was calling that play…a terrible one to call to beat that D. Who’s Hurts supposed to be following about how to adjust…if the HC calling the plays in his O clearly doesn’t have the answers?

Again...your belief is that an NFL coach who came up through the ranks ....has never used a hot route... that's the reason... not the QB who can't recognize things?   

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What if he checks the D and it’s exactly the blitz everybody is expecting…yet that’s been the tool he was given to try and beat it? I mean last season how it ended we very much knew what was coming…yet Siri was calling that play…a terrible one to call to beat that D. Who’s Hurts supposed to be following about how to adjust…if the HC calling the plays in his O clearly doesn’t have the answers?

You are going to see a lot of coaches not having the answer with Hurts

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So then why when everybody in the stadium knew the heavy blitz was coming did everybody go long so often? First off…why is Siri calling that(yes I believe Siri was very dominantly running the O last season not Johnson like you seem to believe just because he was promoted to OC). If the coach had the answer…why didn’t he just call that play to beat it? 

Everybody in the stadium ...except for one guy.

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So then why when everybody in the stadium knew the heavy blitz was coming did everybody go long so often? First off…why is Siri calling that(yes I believe Siri was very dominantly running the O last season not Johnson like you seem to believe just because he was promoted to OC). If the coach had the answer…why didn’t he just call that play to beat it? 

But again... you miss the fact that this stuff has been going on the whole time with Hurts...  not just 2023.  

It seems at least the media woke up.... half saying Hurts did ok and the other half concerned about his last couple performances.... funny, the difference between perception when he did the same stuff 2 years ago he was being talked about as MVP??    Lol. 

Hurts pouts when he doesn't get his way...the offense would run smoother and better if he didn't need to cuddled. Get up under center,

take the 3-5 step drop and deliver...use play action and for the love of GOD he doesn't need to turn his whole body square to the RB or WR on a screen,

giving the defender time to close in. 

36 minutes ago, Breeze 44 said:

Hurts pouts when he doesn't get his way...the offense would run smoother and better if he didn't need to cuddled. Get up under center,

take the 3-5 step drop and deliver...use play action and for the love of GOD he doesn't need to turn his whole body square to the RB or WR on a screen,

giving the defender time to close in. 

Dude..." combined" 3 TDs on Sunday....Lamar didn't run for any... breaking records left and right.  Best in franchise history. 🤦

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Dude..." combined" 3 TDs on Sunday....Lamar didn't run for any... breaking records left and right.  Best in franchise history. 🤦

No, Lamar threw for 5... he did run 1 in that got called back on a hold. 2 Brotherly shoves..wow.. We have a top 5 OL.. 2 top WR's, a star RB 

and a top 10 TE ( granted when he's healthy).. how much more can you give a guy and ask him to conform just 1 bit for the team.. not keep falling back 

to the same bad habits that got you moved in to the bench in Alabama. 

3 hours ago, Breeze 44 said:

No, Lamar threw for 5... he did run 1 in that got called back on a hold. 2 Brotherly shoves..wow.. We have a top 5 OL.. 2 top WR's, a star RB 

and a top 10 TE ( granted when he's healthy).. how much more can you give a guy and ask him to conform just 1 bit for the team.. not keep falling back 

to the same bad habits that got you moved in to the bench in Alabama. 

It's his coach's fault.  Lol.   This is what one of us here will die on the hill defending his opinion. 

7 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Call a time out and talk it over

They had weeks to figure it out …to say the least. They never really figured it out.

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

But again... you miss the fact that this stuff has been going on the whole time with Hurts...  not just 2023.  

It seems at least the media woke up.... half saying Hurts did ok and the other half concerned about his last couple performances.... funny, the difference between perception when he did the same stuff 2 years ago he was being talked about as MVP??    Lol. 

Last two years more than talked about…as  the odds on favorite for the MVP.

We are 0-4-1 playing in Cincy just the random stat of the day 

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Last two years more than talked about…as  the odds on favorite for the MVP.

Right...playing the exact same way he is now.   

Sidney Brown came out Hulked up! Clearly all he’s been doing is eating right and working out.

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sidney Brown came out Hulked up! Clearly all he’s been doing is eating right and working out.

Don't make me angry, you won't like me when I'm angry!

Sidney is going to ‘work out’ here for us

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