I guess we need to lose this week. Tell Bark to stop rushing so well. For the bigger picture LMAO. We need to lose to improve the team per Ham

24 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yeah... wins us just a horrible resume answer?

Yeah for the top job of HC they should be as a result of X and O knowledge, great teaching leading to consistent signs of players thriving more under him than elsewhere….All just depends what job he’s applying for? It won’t be HC…nobody would do that. Not really thinking he’ll get an OC job. Whats he qualified to do? He is great at listening to what others advise for him to do to improve his job performance. Clearly listens to what every random rival fan at gas stations barks out towards him. He speaks well in front of crowds. He’s not deformed and ugly. He doesn’t get arrested. He really seems to live life as a pretty quality person focused on football and working hard. He’s dedicated to football and doesn’t lack effort….or really confidence.

We need to plan for week 16 and 17 and forget about the rest of the games

I don’t mean this even as any slam that I know you’ll take this as…but he’s qualified to be a good hard working keep his nose clean NFL level WR coach. It’s a good job. Don’t need to provide your own scheme, playcall or be in charge of any bigger picture decisions. 

30 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Right,where any BU QB could succeed with this talented group

If so name and prove the backup QB. In fact we’ve witnessed nothing but other QBs looking less than they did elsewhere. None thrived under Siri. Actually consider the fact of how Minshew, Mariota…everybody looked better under other coaching than they did under Siri. Then you finally can get to the understanding of wondering what about Hurts who’s only been stuck under the guy that all others actually looked their career lowest. Our late draft pick we didn’t even try to keep around. He immediately gets a job elsewhere. 

24 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I was mistaken to think we got Barkley so we could have a solid consistent running game in place and score points. Instead if he has success he is "weaponizing" his skill set LMAO

If you take the situation of the dream scenario for this elite player we stole being to return to our rival stadium and absolutely dominate like we all know was more important to him than anybody else could possibly have been. It was fantastic we stole the most hated teams best player…then he dominated them while wearing our jersey. Saquan is a big time talent. That was exactly what needed to happen ideally. 
 But we’ve had two different Pro Bowl RBs then splurged for the upgrade. Trying to figure out who wouldn’t absolutely let such an elite player thrive? I mean the only reason…would he pushing an agenda. You didn’t upgrade over Pro Bowl RBs so he could just pass block.

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t mean this even as any slam that I know you’ll take this as…but he’s qualified to be a good hard working keep his nose clean NFL level WR coach. It’s a good job. Don’t need to provide your own scheme, playcall or be in charge of any bigger picture decisions. 

You allow players to develop but not coaches. He was a brand new HC with no experience at it. So far no losing seasons. How is that bad?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

If you take the situation of the dream scenario for this elite player we stole being to return to our rival stadium and absolutely dominate like we all know was more important to him than anybody else could possibly have been. It was fantastic we stole the most hated teams best player…then he dominated them while wearing our jersey. Saquan is a big time talent. That was exactly what needed to happen ideally. 
 But we’ve had two different Pro Bowl RBs then splurged for the upgrade. Trying to figure out who wouldn’t absolutely let such an elite player thrive? I mean the only reason…would he pushing an agenda. You didn’t upgrade over Pro Bowl RBs so he could just pass block.

Then how is his success "weaponinzing" what he does?

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If so name and prove the backup QB. In fact we’ve witnessed nothing but other QBs looking less than they did elsewhere. None thrived under Siri. Actually consider the fact of how Minshew, Mariota…everybody looked better under other coaching than they did under Siri. Then you finally can get to the understanding of wondering what about Hurts who’s only been stuck under the guy that all others actually looked their career lowest. Our late draft pick we didn’t even try to keep around. He immediately gets a job elsewhere. 

Hurts was drafted as BU QB if you recall

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If so name and prove the backup QB. In fact we’ve witnessed nothing but other QBs looking less than they did elsewhere. None thrived under Siri. Actually consider the fact of how Minshew, Mariota…everybody looked better under other coaching than they did under Siri. Then you finally can get to the understanding of wondering what about Hurts who’s only been stuck under the guy that all others actually looked their career lowest. Our late draft pick we didn’t even try to keep around. He immediately gets a job elsewhere. 

How did they look better. What teams have those guys led into post season?

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If you take the situation of the dream scenario for this elite player we stole being to return to our rival stadium and absolutely dominate like we all know was more important to him than anybody else could possibly have been. It was fantastic we stole the most hated teams best player…then he dominated them while wearing our jersey. Saquan is a big time talent. That was exactly what needed to happen ideally. 
 But we’ve had two different Pro Bowl RBs then splurged for the upgrade. Trying to figure out who wouldn’t absolutely let such an elite player thrive? I mean the only reason…would he pushing an agenda. You didn’t upgrade over Pro Bowl RBs so he could just pass block.

How did Sanders "thrive" under his new coach? Pro bowl again this year?

I do know you well enough FL to understand you place the highest significance on stats being everything. I love how Hurts uses the doubters as fuel to shove their feet in their mouths(or the lower opposite area). But this one I’m proud he doesn’t chase stats and prioritize his own fame and glory. He keeps the main thing the main thing. He wants to win…but win the SB. He genuinely is happy and excited when his teammates succeed. He wasn’t Russell Wilson needing his ego and fame stroked prioritizing his commercials and movie opportunities. He didn’t complain to Siri to let him get his stats and stop monopolizing giving Saquan his day. He doesn’t care to chuck up late blowout TDs. He isn’t like so many QBs just dunk and dunk to raise percentages and yardage stats just to cover their own personal goals and to raise appearances. He’ll do whatever is needed to still win the game. Low percentage opportunity but presenting the only hope to win…he’s chucking that up to give that chance. 

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

How did Sanders "thrive" under his new coach? Pro bowl again this year?

A)We got AJ because the Titans wouldn't pay him B) we got Bark because the Gnats wouldn't pay him. Howie is an opportunist if the players is one who fits C)We drafted DSmith to fill out the WR corps D) We drafted Shipley when Barks time to retire comes. I was thrilled when Howie took Q and DeJean back to back. An injection we sorely needed

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I do know you well enough FL to understand you place the highest significance on stats being everything

Nah, but success usually follows the stats. if you aren't putting up the stats,you aren't winning much and while you get those weird games at times,it holds fairly true

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I love how Hurts uses the doubters as fuel to shove their feet in their mouths(

He's not as far as being a passer,he is middle of the pack. I already posted the link if you want to go back

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But this one I’m proud he doesn’t chase stats and prioritize his own fame and glory

🤣

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

prioritizing his commercials

He's in commercials like they all are LOL

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He didn’t complain to Siri to let him get his stats and stop monopolizing giving Saquan his day.

LMFAO bark made his OWN day, he didn't need Hurts permission to do it for him gimme a break dude my sides hurt. Hand the ball off and Bark runs for 45 yards,Hurts did that? Amazing stuff

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

How did Sanders "thrive" under his new coach? Pro bowl again this year?

He had over 500 receiving yards his rookie year under Pedey…before being completely downgraded to can’t catch…in favor of a player that’s ceiling was what like half…his rookie season. Yeah Sanders would have been better not changing to the style Siri wanted. In Carolina he needed to be more that playmaking aggressive running style than the more one cut north south runner we preferred. But …RBs aren’t getting paid…in case you’ve missed that. But he did. So he went to the worst situation…i mean I’d take the money after not getting it under rookie contract. Gotta take that first biggest payday. Worst situation…but you’ll pay me that contract? I’m taking the millions. I mean that team really freaking stinks. You live in that state now..they must even have Panthers news in NC. Not anywhere else I’ll assure you. But clearly adapting to our approach prioritizing not losing yardage…over trying to make the big plays worked against going there. Only way to do anything is like Barry Sanders did. One cut north and south in Carolina is doomed.

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He’ll do whatever is needed to still win the game.

He needs to STOP.. For the greater long term good

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He had over 500 receiving yards his rookie year under Pedey…before being completely downgraded to can’t catch…in favor of a player that’s ceiling was what like half…his rookie season. Yeah Sanders would have been better not changing to the style Siri wanted. In Carolina he needed to be more that playmaking aggressive running style than the more one cut north south runner we preferred. But …RBs aren’t getting paid…in case you’ve missed that. But he did. So he went to the worst situation…i mean I’d take the money after not getting it under rookie contract. Gotta take that first biggest payday. Worst situation…but you’ll pay me that contract? I’m taking the millions. I mean that team really freaking stinks. You live in that state now..they must even have Panthers news in NC. Not anywhere else I’ll assure you. But clearly adapting to our approach prioritizing not losing yardage…over trying to make the big plays worked against going there. Only way to do anything is like Barry Sanders did. One cut north and south in Carolina is doomed.

He's not a rookie LOL. As a  RB you can run or you can't

Carolina giving the rest of their players away. They will shoot for draft success,fall short just like the Browns

Who in their right mind gives Caff and DJ Moore away with a new QB? The insanity here is amazing

54 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

How many games did we lose because of Hurts bonehead plays?

Last year the Jets.   I wouldn't characterize the other losses on his plays....more so like in Seattle and vs ATL this year....he clearly had an opportunity to win those games and threw unnecessary interceptions ... but I wouldn't blame him for the loss ...more so not making the play to win when there was an opportunity.   

The Jets game was just no excuse for that Interception at the end when we had the lead.

The last time Carolina was any good was with Cam Newton and Olsen at TE