2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

A few deeps balls?   

Look I just don’t think our definitions of what the label Game Manager has been applied to NFL QBs is the same. But yeah a few deep balls to both top WRs each game. How many deep big plays is more than game managing QB to you? I just don’t think being a game manager applies to making big plays. Or does it apply to improvising and being a playmaker to run, juke and just always be so stubbornly difficult to tackle or stop. He ran for a real nice first down conversion. He ran for a very key other chunk for a first down getting us inside the five yard line. Then after the others couldn’t get the TD …he delivered by forcing his will on that game. The Bengals shut down our Brotherly Shove…but Hurts refused to be denied. Watch the highlight or review the screenshot I shared of after the Oline and the whole play went nowhere…he continued on alone against several very large Bengal defenders while a defender was also at his feet from behind/side. He also make a great play running in that 7(or whatever) yard TD.

Play action is a much better option because the linemen can drive to the second level. To run play action you need to establish the run

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Read an article where Lane and some of the O line guys wanted us to run the ball more and told Siri on the bye. The college RPO causes "illegal downfield" linemen and it freezes then at the LOS so their talent is being wasted

Heard Kelce and Barkley speak of Siri this week.   Of how well Siri communicates with the players.  Constantly emphasizing the little details. 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Look I just don’t think our definitions of what the label Game Manager has been applied to NFL QBs is the same. But yeah a few deep balls to both top WRs each game. How many deep big plays is more than game managing QB to you? I just don’t think being a game manager applies to making big plays. Or does it apply to improvising and being a playmaker to run, juke and just always be so stubbornly difficult to tackle or stop. He ran for a real nice first down conversion. He ran for a very key other chunk for a first down getting us inside the five yard line. Then after the others couldn’t get the TD …he delivered by forcing his will on that game. The Bengals shut down our Brotherly Shove…but Hurts refused to be denied. Watch the highlight or review the screenshot I shared of after the Oline and the whole play went nowhere…he continued on alone against several very large Bengal defenders while a defender was also at his feet from behind/side. He also make a great play running in that 7(or whatever) yard TD.

A game manager can still throw,we aren't suggesting he stop throwing. Foles won us a SB as a game manager,but he still made the needed passes

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Look I just don’t think our definitions of what the label Game Manager has been applied to NFL QBs is the same. But yeah a few deep balls to both top WRs each game. How many deep big plays is more than game managing QB to you? I just don’t think being a game manager applies to making big plays. Or does it apply to improvising and being a playmaker to run, juke and just always be so stubbornly difficult to tackle or stop. He ran for a real nice first down conversion. He ran for a very key other chunk for a first down getting us inside the five yard line. Then after the others couldn’t get the TD …he delivered by forcing his will on that game. The Bengals shut down our Brotherly Shove…but Hurts refused to be denied. Watch the highlight or review the screenshot I shared of after the Oline and the whole play went nowhere…he continued on alone against several very large Bengal defenders while a defender was also at his feet from behind/side. He also make a great play running in that 7(or whatever) yard TD.

I'd like to see the # of deep balls.   I think you exaggerate stuff.    One play and you puff out your chest.  That lasts weeks for you. 

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

he continued on alone

😂

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Look I just don’t think our definitions of what the label Game Manager has been applied to NFL QBs is the same. But yeah a few deep balls to both top WRs each game. How many deep big plays is more than game managing QB to you? I just don’t think being a game manager applies to making big plays. Or does it apply to improvising and being a playmaker to run, juke and just always be so stubbornly difficult to tackle or stop. He ran for a real nice first down conversion. He ran for a very key other chunk for a first down getting us inside the five yard line. Then after the others couldn’t get the TD …he delivered by forcing his will on that game. The Bengals shut down our Brotherly Shove…but Hurts refused to be denied. Watch the highlight or review the screenshot I shared of after the Oline and the whole play went nowhere…he continued on alone against several very large Bengal defenders while a defender was also at his feet from behind/side. He also make a great play running in that 7(or whatever) yard TD.

Throwing deep, being a playmaker….pretty much exactly what most would call a QB doing all the things that are beyond the description of the game management. His long game killing drives several times this season are pretty ultimate game management….but not what the label of Game Manager has been applied to mean very widely.

He "wouldn't be denied" because he is a ball hog at the GL my friend

13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Does a guy throwing..." a few deep balls"  ...considered a gunslinger?   A dude throwing 14 passes.... but a couple deeper balls where he lofts them up to his all pro WR in single coverage...that's aggressive?

There we go…you say I keep score. That’s the third time already you’ve tried to weaponize Saquan’s Day to tear down.

14 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Does a guy throwing..." a few deep balls"  ...considered a gunslinger?   A dude throwing 14 passes.... but a couple deeper balls where he lofts them up to his all pro WR in single coverage...that's aggressive?

Wait a minute….it really feels very suspiciously like you are giving full credit to Hurts making excellent reads on the D. He hit AJ a few times this last game so sweet between three defenders. He also ‘read’ the motion on O caused the defenders to have a slight hiccup adjusting to their assignments hitting AJ right off that opportunity.

47 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

53 million to hand the ball off to Barkley is overpaid. He's not a Prima Donna because he is a middle of the pack QB

So how much and which QB is not supposed to hand the ball off? Then add in  not going to hand the ball to Saquan? Hurts contract situation is very team friendly.

49 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

53 million to hand the ball off to Barkley is overpaid. He's not a Prima Donna because he is a middle of the pack QB

I do feel you honestly some how feel like the contract to Hurts is too much. But I can’t even picture your Hurts Hating to actually believe "he’s middle of the pack.” He’s set the bar already so high that even in his lowest moment under a bad HC,in a terrible scheme ,with pathetic playcalling…he’s still not that far back. I just don’t even believe you honestly even typed that with your chest and a straight face.

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Wait a minute….it really feels very suspiciously like you are giving full credit to Hurts making excellent reads on the D. He hit AJ a few times this last game so sweet between three defenders. He also ‘read’ the motion on O caused the defenders to have a slight hiccup adjusting to their assignments hitting AJ right off that opportunity.

Nothing to do with the talent AJ has eh?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/sort/cwepaPassesCondensed/dir/desc Hurts 13th as a passing QB,that is middle of the pack. Sorry to bust up your agenda

51 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Then he is back to ball hogging at the GL instead of giving Barkley the stats,so I am throwing the BS flag that Hurts isn't selfish. He needs those stolen stats to earn his pay,nothing more than that

BS. He ran the ball to convert the first down to inside the five. Bark got opportunities went forward but couldn’t score. I mean it was totally up to him to get the TD. He didn’t and doesn’t disappoint. Hurts doesn’t need to earn his pay. He just signed that life changing contract you complain about. Second round pick got his money. While it was a mega contract it still actually was a team friendly deal for him to sign. You sure know that not a single Cowboy would have accepted what he took in that position. They all are making sure they use maximum leverage to push their contracts beyond anything in the ballpark of fair or enough. 

28 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Sure Siri wants to keep his job. Not really a shocker there

Yeah I can understand it…but what comes with the HC is needing that confidence and driving your team forward. As much as he isn’t adverse to risking going for it on fourth downs…he sure went chicken sh17 in a situation where a HC sure in himself and superior team chooses to confidently lead his squad to embrace the opportunity to light the bad team absolutely up!

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah I can understand it…but what comes with the HC is needing that confidence and driving your team forward. As much as he isn’t adverse to risking going for it on fourth downs…he sure went chicken sh17 in a situation where a HC sure in himself and superior team chooses to confidently lead his squad to embrace the opportunity to light the bad team absolutely up!

Just pretty consistent decision by Siri. Don’t lose…win today…but sacrificing the bigger picture important needs.

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

BS. He ran the ball to convert the first down to inside the five. Bark got opportunities went forward but couldn’t score. I mean it was totally up to him to get the TD. He didn’t and doesn’t disappoint. Hurts doesn’t need to earn his pay. He just signed that life changing contract you complain about. Second round pick got his money. While it was a mega contract it still actually was a team friendly deal for him to sign. You sure know that not a single Cowboy would have accepted what he took in that position. They all are making sure they use maximum leverage to push their contracts beyond anything in the ballpark of fair or enough. 

Yeah don't pass to a TE or anything. He has good legs and we use them just like a game manager should

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Because he can't earn is pay by passing the ball. not real hard to understand is it?

That’s where you just completely minimizing all it takes to be the franchise leader.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just pretty consistent decision by Siri. Don’t lose…win today…but sacrificing the bigger picture important needs.

lmao now you have a problem with winning?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s where you just completely minimizing all it takes to be the franchise leader.

He runs the tush push behind the O line. The O line leads and he follows,not difficult to fathom except for you

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just pretty consistent decision by Siri. Don’t lose…win today…but sacrificing the bigger picture important needs.

Hunh?  

Just can’t think of many 22,23 young QBs that weren’t like a first overall pick that Siri could have ever survived with. The HC supposed to be the even keeled mature adult that steadies the young emotional athletes. Only way a HC that’s worse than the players like this to survive after one season was he benefitted from having Hurts as the team leader. Hurts even keeled mature and focused demeanor guided our team…while becoming a pro at a younger age than most.

11 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Hunh?  

He's against winning now 

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Hunh?  

Pointing out what’s developed into a clear track record of the decisions Siri chooses. He skips the franchise and season bigger picture important needs always in favor of short cutting his way to find today’s win. Been here many years having great job security…beat the Browns early in the season prioritized over developing his team to be at its highest potential by seasons end…or future careers.