45 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s his pretty my much lone gold star to cling to. But even much of that isn’t going to win him favor getting hired. Proven track record of how much he hindered the team accomplishing those wins while relying on others to bail him out. What did he start calling plays? 2-5. Then same team Steichen takes over gets hot and makes the playoffs. Steichen remains running the O to the SB. Then leaves and the team relies on momentum carrying over from the past and regresses under Siri again. All the way down to can’t beat the Cards or be competitive against a so so Bucs playoff noncontender. But even though it’s pretty damning on his job performance actually how the wins have actually occurred….its still his best resume asset. That and he mastered maximizing us on short yardage.

Wins is pretty much the only thing that matters.   What world are we living in where it doesn't? 

What was the " hindering" ... you still haven't explained yet ?

The Cleveland game....explain the " hindering " ? 

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Last year the Jets.   I wouldn't characterize the other losses on his plays....more so like in Seattle and vs ATL this year....he clearly had an opportunity to win those games and threw unnecessary interceptions ... but I wouldn't blame him for the loss ...more so not making the play to win when there was an opportunity.   

The Jets game was just no excuse for that Interception at the end when we had the lead.

We saw bonehead play in the SB,then running backwards in TB. yes the game was lost but why make yourself a laughing stock? Last years collapse. This year led the league in picks and fumbles through 4 games(bonehead) SO now we STOPPED letting him run things and made him a game manager. That's not a bad thing,we won a SB with that,but Hurts will never be in the MVP convo again

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

A)We got AJ because the Titans wouldn't pay him B) we got Bark because the Gnats wouldn't pay him. Howie is an opportunist if the players is one who fits C)We drafted DSmith to fill out the WR corps D) We drafted Shipley when Barks time to retire comes. I was thrilled when Howie took Q and DeJean back to back. An injection we sorely needed

Just not really the situation with AJ. They were negotiating a megacontract. Any good GM should try and negotiate the best he can. But we missed out on every WR opportunity Rosie attempted…thankfully. He clearly can’t just find a WR by not investing the top dollar or pick. But we got AJ because Hurts is great friends with him. Hurts worked out with a WR that wasn’t his teammate that offseason. Then magically AJ just cuts off negotiations with the Titans. He obviously knew there was a desperate team that was willing to pay top dollar. Plus he would get to play with his trusted buddy…instead of the doomed looking passing potential ahead in Tenn. 

  But Titans didn’t cease negotiations. We’re actively negotiating to pay AJ. When a player knows he can get paid top dollar as a guy dependent on the QB…what choice would you make? Titans not paying him is totally different than the very crucial details involved in the team’s largest contract. If the Titans chose to not pay him they’d have ceased negotiations. But AJ did…forcing them to trade. If a player stops negotiations and demands a trade…what can any GM do?

Ham calls me a hater because I said long ago Hurts is a RB who can throw. Why is that a bad thing??? Did I say it was bad? No, but that's what I see and was labeled an inept non fan who doesn't know what he's talking about   

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just not really the situation with AJ. They were negotiating a megacontract. Any good GM should try and negotiate the best he can. But we missed out on every WR opportunity Rosie attempted…thankfully. He clearly can’t just find a WR by not investing the top dollar or pick. But we got AJ because Hurts is great friends with him. Hurts worked out with a WR that wasn’t his teammate that offseason. Then magically AJ just cuts off negotiations with the Titans. He obviously knew there was a desperate team that was willing to pay top dollar. Plus he would get to play with his trusted buddy…instead of the doomed looking passing potential ahead in Tenn. 

  But Titans didn’t cease negotiations. We’re actively negotiating to pay AJ. When a player knows he can get paid top dollar as a guy dependent on the QB…what choice would you make? Titans not paying him is totally different than the very crucial details involved in the team’s largest contract. If the Titans chose to not pay him they’d have ceased negotiations. But AJ did…forcing them to trade. If a player stops negotiations and demands a trade…what can any GM do?

Howie checks out everyone. it's not that he couldn't get them,he just wants it HIS way. He won't overpay. There was no "magic",the Titans stood firm on their offer and being on a loser team he looked elsewhere

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

But Titans didn’t cease negotiations.

They did and Howie stepped in. We offered a team with hope for the future,Titans didn't have that. They were hooked on Henry being their offense where is he now? It's a loser organization nobody is dying to play there

14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

A)We got AJ because the Titans wouldn't pay him B) we got Bark because the Gnats wouldn't pay him. Howie is an opportunist if the players is one who fits C)We drafted DSmith to fill out the WR corps D) We drafted Shipley when Barks time to retire comes. I was thrilled when Howie took Q and DeJean back to back. An injection we sorely needed

I mean he hits and misses. For the Smitty pick there was the Reagor pick. Shipley hasn’t proven to be anything. Davis such a high pick …definitely not living up to draft status….but not impressive even. I don’t want to take away that Rosie really looks into every opportunity. He’s overall done well. But he’s at his best hiring and using the right people to do their jobs for him to succeed. When he listens to football guys he tends to pick good players. When he overrules and take the lead on football knowledge areas he whiffs. Smart guy that isn’t scared to take charge. But better negotiator and skilled several steps ahead thinker. He’s better at being the dick boss to grill the winning coach after a game and mostly work the calculator. Experienced enough to be guarded at securing our corporation from spies working their corporate espionage.

10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The last time Carolina was any good was with Cam Newton and Olsen at TE

That was brief…loved Kuechly.

20 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Nah, but success usually follows the stats. if you aren't putting up the stats,you aren't winning much and while you get those weird games at times,it holds fairly true

So stats usually favor passing yardage in situations for teams with the lead?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I mean he hits and misses. For the Smitty pick there was the Reagor pick. Shipley hasn’t proven to be anything. Davis such a high pick …definitely not living up to draft status….but not impressive even. I don’t want to take away that Rosie really looks into every opportunity. He’s overall done well. But he’s at his best hiring and using the right people to do their jobs for him to succeed. When he listens to football guys he tends to pick good players. When he overrules and take the lead on football knowledge areas he whiffs. Smart guy that isn’t scared to take charge. But better negotiator and skilled several steps ahead thinker. He’s better at being the dick boss to grill the winning coach after a game and mostly work the calculator. Experienced enough to be guarded at securing our corporation from spies working their corporate espionage.

We all know the draft is a crap shoot. It always has been. Purdy was Mr. Irrelevent lol

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That was brief…loved Kuechly.

Sanders was supposed to replace Caff LOL(fail)

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So stats usually favor passing yardage in situations for teams with the lead?

We can't have rushing stats?

We now have rushing stats and Hurts is a middle of the pack passer,those are the stats to date

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So stats usually favor passing yardage in situations for teams with the lead?

How many rushing TDs as opposed to passing TDs do we have?

The stat that matters is crossing the GL

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

The stat that matters is crossing the GL

Remember 31 PPG? Did I say how to get that? OH forgot once again that 31PPG is impossible, can't be done

Now we probably won't get that,with Hurts as a game manager,so we will run and control the ball on long time wasting drives with a better defense to get us the ball back. I was assuming Hurts could learn the Moore offense but that is gone now

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So stats usually favor passing yardage in situations for teams with the lead?

Who said that?????

26 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Nah, but success usually follows the stats. if you aren't putting up the stats,you aren't winning much and while you get those weird games at times,it holds fairly true

So your take is our QB is better for us solely based on passing stats. That he’d be better for our team by demanding his ego and fame to be fed taking away from Saquan’s once in a career opportunity..against our rival even. That if he was jealous and stat chasing to take away from his teammates very important moment that makes him better for us. That instead of getting pulled in the blowout you’d favor him stat chase risking his health for all the future games ahead. That our ability to kill massive end of game clock to victory(well Falcons should have been anyway) you hate. That you prefer to score quickly going for broke to give our opponent their only chance to win. Kill the clock and win? Or try and score as much as possibly quickly so our opponent gets their only chance to come back?

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Now we probably won't get that,with Hurts as a game manager,so we will run and control the ball on long time wasting drives with a better defense to get us the ball back. I was assuming Hurts could learn the Moore offense but that is gone now

BTW it's not that Siri overrode Moore,it's that Hurts couldn't or wouldn't learn his offense. We tried and now went back to the same old same old,but now we have a stud RB

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So your take is our QB is better for us solely based on passing stats. That he’d be better for our team by demanding his ego and fame to be fed taking away from Saquan’s once in a career opportunity..against our rival even. That if he was jealous and stat chasing to take away from his teammates very important moment that makes him better for us. That instead of getting pulled in the blowout you’d favor him stat chase risking his health for all the future games ahead. That our ability to kill massive end of game clock to victory(well Falcons should have been anyway) you hate. That you prefer to score quickly going for broke to give our opponent their only chance to win. Kill the clock and win? Or try and score as much as possibly quickly so our opponent gets their only chance to come back?

We have star power at WR and TE. I think we would do well with a pocket passer with an arm

31 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He's not as far as being a passer,he is middle of the pack. I already posted the link if you want to go back

Evidently I need to post the link of how the players came together to confront Siri on how the O has to get better? But I wouldn’t want you to consider any alternatives to Hurts Hating when they were groping last season also. At least Siri’s incompetence gave us the positive of our team won’t just gripe and put up with it. They learned they must be proactively showing unity to confront the coach demanding more.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

That he’d be better for our team by demanding his ego and fame to be fed taking away from Saquan’s once in a career opportunity..against our rival even

That wasn't Hurts decision,that was Barks decision after talking with Siri. Siri understood the importance of the moment and Bark was tired and made that decision