34 minutes ago, EagleMatt said:

Even if we go 11-6..

siri gotta go. Eagles already have a team of gorgeous cheerleaders. A raccoon eyed dope wasnt needed.

6 minutes ago, NOTW said:

it's not about one play. Siri has proven in the last 2 years that he makes bad decisions, has bad game plan and game day skills. The CEO Head Coach who doesn't call plays, who sets the culture and should be holding people accountable and making adjustments, isn't. We debated last year is it Brian Johnson or Siri? Nick said it's his offense. Then they hired Moore with a new offense to blend what he does and what the Eagles have done in the past. We know Siri wasn't even in the offensive meeting room most of the offseason, Moore said he would pop in at times.

Regardless, if the HEAD COACH doesn't like something, he should fix it. Make your OC call the plays you think would be better. Make the QB run things the way you think would be better. Hold your DC accountable for the pass rush and leaving guys WIDE OPEN in a 2 minute drill situation where they obviously needed to throw the ball downfield quickly.

People joke about the fan on the couch judging the decisions, the Monday Morning QB and all that. A lot of what we've seen from Siri are obvious things that should be fixable. Last season he watched the ship sink slowly and did nothing to change it.

Accountability starts with the head coach.

Yes, Hurts made a dumb throw on that INT. Yes, Barkley didn't catch that pass. There are always individual plays that don't go well. But in the big picture, Siri has a lot of issues.

This was Week 2.  You want him micromanaging Kellen Moore and Fangio already?

Nick is an offensive head coach.  The defense belongs to Fangio and defensive personnel belongs to Howie.  There was nothing wrong with the 3rd and 3 call; Barkley has to catch the football there.  Nick's biggest error in game management was not taking the FG on the second drive of the game to go ahead.    

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Eagles need to get a TE of the future in here next year too. Goedert just ain't it. His breakout season isn't coming and he's almost 30. He'll probably be here next year because his contract has been tapped out with restructures but they need to have someone to groom for 2026.

They will trade a conditional 3rd that can turn into a 2nd in the offseason for Pitts, and everyone will be like "HOWIE! A former top 5 pick. Howie cashing in on depreciated assets baby!"

And he'll proceed to finish 2025 with 38 catches for 385 yards and 3 TDs.

My only hope for the defense, and it's not a guarantee that it fixes things, is I hope they aren't stubborn in continuing to play the same guys. Booker played great last night so reward him with more snaps. I think Milton Williams has more of a future on this team than Jordan Davis does, so get him into the rotation more. Begin to ween DeJean into Maddox's role because Maddox won't stay healthy all year. If Slay continues to regress, get Ringo or Rodgers in there and see if either of them can be the future CB opposite Mitchell. If Huff and Sweat continue to be complete zeros, let Hunt get more action. Make it a complete meritocracy instead of keeping guys in based on their draft position or contract. 

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yeah. I wasnt sure if its Siri, or Howie/Lurie who are married to the Fangio defense. But whoever it is really has to move on from that idea. Its a failed concept in today's NFL. 

Especially if offenses are swinging back towards the ground game, you're going to get gashed

4 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I guess Isaiah Rodgers didn’t do literally anything since I don’t see him anywhere on the snap counts 

But... he's got immense trade value.

Final Game Two Prediction Results

@GoEagles5921 with a prediction of Eagles 20 and Falcons 24 gets the win, with @GoEagles614 with a prediction of 17-23 and @GrahamCracker with a prediction of 16-18 getting the runners up.  A total of 90 predictions were recorded with 87 for an Eagles win and 3 for a Falcons win.  The average predicted score was Eagles 32 Falcons 18. 

Only 3 Bonus predictions were correct.
@DEagle7 with "Dotson is outside of the top 4 for receptions despite the Brown injury"
@mattwill with "Milton Williams with a sack"
@UK_EaglesFan89 with "I think Atlanta will see this as a must win (with KC next week) and I think Coupons will be better than last week"

@Hawkeye had the most schizophrenic Bonus prediction with "Eagles feed Saquon early and often"  That was spot on ... and then it wasn't.  Sirianni and Moore owe @Hawkeye a chicken dinner.

The 90 predictions were as follows:

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

This was Week 2.  You want him micromanaging Kellen Moore and Fangio already?

Nick is an offensive head coach.  The defense belongs to Fangio and defensive personnel belongs to Howie.  There was nothing wrong with the 3rd and 3 call; Barkley has to catch the football there.  Nick's biggest error in game management was not taking the FG on the second drive of the game to go ahead.    

No, it's not micromanaging. It's always going to be a collaboration. There is a game plan and strategy. What does Nick do then? Sit back and just wait to call timeout or throw the challenge flag? Run up and down the field being a cheerleader for the players?

In preparation for the game knowing AJ Brown is out, they had to discuss who to target and replace his production. Covey was the answer to that question? 

I don't mind the pass play call as much, as we know if Barkley caught it and got outside for a 1st down they win the game. Lots of plays can be like that, if only a player did something different on this play or that play. It's looking at the team as a whole since last year's collapse. Nothing has changed. Siri said last year that it probably was a mistake to not play the starters in preseason and he would look at that. He did it again - after changing BOTH coordinators and having new schemes and playbooks. He is still making bad decisions in games. Let's see how this thing looks at the bye, but so far the team looks the same as last year.

1 minute ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

My only hope for the defense, and it's not a guarantee that it fixes things, is I hope they aren't stubborn in continuing to play the same guys. Booker played great last night so reward him with more snaps. I think Milton Williams has more of a future on this team than Jordan Davis does, so get him into the rotation more. Begin to ween DeJean into Maddox's role because Maddox won't stay healthy all year. If Slay continues to regress, get Ringo or Rodgers in there and see if either of them can be the future CB opposite Mitchell. If Huff and Sweat continue to be complete zeros, let Hunt get more action. 

I was quite disheartened when Maddox was brought back; I'd seen quite enough of him before this season.  He's a guy who is okay in the middle of the field but simply does not even compete on the outside.  The only play the Falcons missed on their last drive was because Maddox held his guy well past 5 yards, then interfered with him before the ball arrived.

He got away with both, though, so maybe more guys should have tried it.

11 hours ago, devpool said:

@mattwillemotional response prediction

 

saints 47 

eagles 16

That sounds very logical to me.

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Eagles need to get a TE of the future in here next year too. Goedert just ain't it. His breakout season isn't coming and he's almost 30. He'll probably be here next year because his contract has been tapped out with restructures but they need to have someone to groom for 2026.

Frankly for what we are paying and how much they are using him, they could go draft a younger version, sign a cheap vet and save the money. This isn’t as much a knock on goedert as we really don’t utilize him enough to justify his cap number. Could post June 1st cut him next offseason and save 6.7 mil with 5.1 dead money. But really they don’t have anyone in place to replace him. so like you said have to have someone ready by 2026 

that said Calcaterra had a catch in both games. Becoming a household name this year! 

I would rather have Doug back than this fraud cheerleader coach. 

1 minute ago, NOTW said:

No, it's not micromanaging. It's always going to be a collaboration. There is a game plan and strategy. What does Nick do then? Sit back and just wait to call timeout or throw the challenge flag? Run up and down the field being a cheerleader for the players?

This is such a dumb, useless narrative.  What does Dan Campbell do?  What does Mike Tomlin do?  What does John Harbaugh do?  Not every coach is an architect of play design, nor do they have to be.

Sirianni's biggest problem is the QB who cannot/will not buy into the offensive scheme.  Get him the best OL, get him two WR1s, get him a WR3, I guess they'll have to find a TE Hurts will look at, get him a bellcow RB, go ahead and get 10 All Pros and get Sean McVay to head coach and Kyle Shanahan as OC -- you'll still be left with a QB who makes poor decisions and decides he needs to carry the football on every big down so that he can be nursing an injury before the playoffs again.

You'll get your wish by 2025; Sirianni will be gone.  You're never going to witness 2022 Hurts again, though.  Keep that in mind.  

12 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

They will trade a conditional 3rd that can turn into a 2nd in the offseason for Pitts, and everyone will be like "HOWIE! A former top 5 pick. Howie cashing in on depreciated assets baby!"

And he'll proceed to finish 2025 with 38 catches for 385 yards and 3 TDs.

A parallel to the hype followed by negligible production they’ll see from Dotson this year.

Sounds like Sunday will be fun

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

It's easy to say "they only gave up 22 points" but they are simply getting manhandled. 

exactly

Who do they go with as the interim HC after Sirianni gets fired heading into the bye?  Do you really elevate Fangio when his defense is this putrid?

One thing that I think I see, but others would know better, is that Carter is getting himself way out of position on run plays. It's like he gets baited by lineman into attacking because he's always rushing the passer, and they run right into the gap he vacates. That's bad coaching, IMO.

12 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Frankly for what we are paying and how much they are using him, they could go draft a younger version, sign a cheap vet and save the money. This isn’t as much a knock on goedert as we really don’t utilize him enough to justify his cap number. Could post June 1st cut him next offseason and save 6.7 mil with 5.1 dead money. But really they don’t have anyone in place to replace him. so like you said have to have someone ready by 2026 

that said Calcaterra had a catch in both games. Becoming a household name this year! 

I’m more concerned with how they’re being deployed.  There was a play on the 1st or 2nd series where Calcaterra was on the line hands in the dirt inside of an off set DG…on a run play.  Why is that even a formation?  Were they shocked when he got blown up off the snap?

3 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

One thing that I think I see, but others would know better, is that Carter is getting himself way out of position on run plays. It's like he gets baited by lineman into attacking because he's always rushing the passer, and they run right into the gap he vacates. That's bad coaching, IMO.

It looks like he is always taking a side and trying to shoot a gap and the lineman just rides him in whatever direction he takes using his own momentum against him and the RB then picks the other gap.

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

One thing that I think I see, but others would know better, is that Carter is getting himself way out of position on run plays. It's like he gets baited by lineman into attacking because he's always rushing the passer, and they run right into the gap he vacates. That's bad coaching, IMO.

All 22 will probably tell more, I saw Davis being absolutely demolished though and washed out of most of the plays he was in.  Hard to maintain a gap when that big boy is being rag dolled around the field.

One more thought -- losing AJ at the end of the practice week, after the gameplan was installed, and with limited time to adapt -- I'll take 365 yards of offense and 4 scores. Yeah, they left points out there (not kicking the FG on the 1st drive, only 2 for 5 in red zone), but I was scared they'd look like the team in the playoff loss without AJ. Barkley and Hurts had success on the ground, and Hurts was highly efficient until the last throw. The one thing that I will hit them for -- 2 weeks in a row, we had a chance to end the game with a TD and failed both times. That can't happen. You fumble the snap on the BS week 1, and Barkley drop week 2. Just poor execution at critical times.

We aren't winning squat if we can't stop anyone on the ground. Atlanta scored on 5 of its last 6 drives, the only stop being the turnover on downs. We can't stop the run, can't force turnovers, can't get pressure...this defense may somehow be worse than what we saw at the end of last year. 

26 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Eagles need to get a TE of the future in here next year too. Goedert just ain't it. His breakout season isn't coming and he's almost 30. He'll probably be here next year because his contract has been tapped out with restructures but they need to have someone to groom for 2026.

The TE doesnt matter in this offense, with this QB. Id rather see them play a 3rd OT. 

6 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

This is such a dumb, useless narrative.  What does Dan Campbell do?  What does Mike Tomlin do?  What does John Harbaugh do?  Not every coach is an architect of play design, nor do they have to be.

Sirianni's biggest problem is the QB who cannot/will not buy into the offensive scheme.  Get him the best OL, get him two WR1s, get him a WR3, I guess they'll have to find a TE Hurts will look at, get him a bellcow RB, go ahead and get 10 All Pros and get Sean McVay to head coach and Kyle Shanahan as OC -- you'll still be left with a QB who makes poor decisions and decides he needs to carry the football on every big down so that he can be nursing an injury before the playoffs again.

You'll get your wish by 2025; Sirianni will be gone.  You're never going to witness 2022 Hurts again, though.  Keep that in mind.  

There are conflicting narratives.  Hurts is low on the list of reasons they lost last night.  Lots of bigger warts.  But any time the QB is ON the list, that flows to the top of the discussion.

Hurts has an otherwordly supporting cast.  It’s absurd.  And the fact that we are fishing for complements and saying he had a pretty good game as he goes out there and throws for 180 papercut yards, continues his turnover problems…with this level of talent.

He’s just not that good.  

I get it.  I’m always a critic.  Easy to hate.  But we’ve seen this movie so many times here.  QBs showing everyone they aren’t good enough and everything refusing to accept it until they start to really regress and enough years pass that it’s shoved down everyone’s throat.

we’ll get there with Hurts too eventually.

21 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Final Game Two Prediction Results

@GoEagles5921 with a prediction of Eagles 20 and Falcons 24 gets the win, with @GoEagles614 with a prediction of 17-23 and @GrahamCracker with a prediction of 16-18 getting the runners up.  A total of 90 predictions were recorded with 87 for an Eagles win and 3 for a Falcons win.  The average predicted score was Eagles 32 Falcons 18. 

Only 3 Bonus predictions were correct.
@DEagle7 with "Dotson is outside of the top 4 for receptions despite the Brown injury"
@mattwill with "Milton Williams with a sack"
@UK_EaglesFan89 with "I think Atlanta will see this as a must win (with KC next week) and I think Coupons will be better than last week"

@Hawkeye had the most schizophrenic Bonus prediction with "Eagles feed Saquon early and often"  That was spot on ... and then it wasn't.  Sirianni and Moore owe @Hawkeye a chicken dinner.

The 90 predictions were as follows:

Make that 4 bonus predictions. I said Jalen Wentz adds to his turnovers. He did just that lol