March 13Mar 13 42 minutes ago, BBE said:Looks like parachutes were taken away in 2008.Cost savings?Yep. I had forgotten about that, it was so long ago. No idea if they reissued them for this go round. That would involve getting everybody retrained and setting up the support apparatus (packers, riggers, life support) again.
March 13Mar 13 14 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:Haven’t done any real lifting in 20 years and, yes, I am getting old. Twice a week now for a few months. I’m not aiming to max anything. More about reps these days for me. I am adding more weight on the bench each week fwiw.I tried my whole life to put lots of effort into keeping in shape, I spend more time working out now than I did when I was young. Doing a lot of mobility work reaps huge benefits as you age as far as maintaining agility and preventing injury
March 13Mar 13 4 hours ago, Frankfurteagle89 said:We are hammering Iran militarily, but also losing a lot of resources in taking out their old equipment. And what’s the successful end game to this whole conflict?! Short term gain for long term pain?! The exact opposite of what he is doing with the economy…Hmmm let me look up your takes on doing the exact same thing in Ukraine...
March 13Mar 13 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:Hmmm let me look up your takes on doing the exact same thing in Ukraine...Dude, that's apples to oranges. First off, have we lost any troops in Ukraine? Did we send any of the super high tech missiles etc., with the exception of Patriot and Himars systems, which are now being paid for? Did we send anything with stealth technology? Have we sent them anything since Trump took office? Who is more of an adversary to us when it comes to strength? Are you able to say that Putin and Russia is our enemy, or are you also taking the Trump stance of them being our new friends?Boots on the ground for you is good on this one, right?1
March 13Mar 13 17 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:Hmmm let me look up your takes on doing the exact same thing in Ukraine...Be sure to pull yours as well.
March 13Mar 13 13 hours ago, Mike31mt said:This is a different situation than both of those wars. What is your point?LOL right, this time the regime change war in the Middle East is different than the last one. My point is you are absolutely foolish if you think that we can simply wipe the Islamic Republic Regime off the map by dropping bombs and missile strikes. As if this can just be a quick and easy war and viola, all the bad guys are gone. Wiping the Islamic Republic regime off the map would require a full on ground assault, followed by a very long occupation as we help them transition to a new government, which means dealing with the counter insurgency that comes with said occupation. It would require years of military occupation of Iran, cost thousands of American lives, and easily over a trillion dollars.
March 13Mar 13 13 hours ago, Mike31mt said:Trump is infinitely better than the alternative. That's what America voted for.Actually no, that's not what America voted for. Trump ran on avoiding going to war with Iran, and painted Harris and the Dems as the new neocons who wanted to keep the American military entangled in foreign regime change wars. He was the one that was going to bring our troops home, and use the money we'd otherwise waste on overseas wars and focus that money on domestic issues instead. But, you Trumpers don't actually have any beliefs of your own, you just follow blindly with whatever Trump does, I guess because you're afraid that you'll get removed from the mailing list if he finds out you dare criticized dear leader. So of course now that Trump has us entangled in a new regime change war in the Middle East, you do a complete 180 and go "this is exactly what I voted for!"
March 13Mar 13 2 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:LOL right, this time the regime change war in the Middle East is different than the last one.My point is you are absolutely foolish if you think that we can simply wipe the Islamic Republic Regime off the map by dropping bombs and missile strikes. As if this can just be a quick and easy war and viola, all the bad guys are gone. Wiping the Islamic Republic regime off the map would require a full on ground assault, followed by a very long occupation as we help them transition to a new government, which means dealing with the counter insurgency that comes with said occupation. It would require years of military occupation of Iran, cost thousands of American lives, and easily over a trillion dollars.We held both Iraq and Afghanistan in the palm of our hand. We also launched massive ground invasions there.Neither of those countries were dealing with massive protests where there was momentum for regime change in our favor.
March 13Mar 13 1 minute ago, Phillyterp85 said:Actually no, that's not what America voted for. Trump ran on avoiding going to war with Iran, and painted Harris and the Dems as the new neocons who wanted to keep the American military entangled in foreign regime change wars. He was the one that was going to bring our troops home, and use the money we'd otherwise waste on overseas wars and focus that money on domestic issues instead.But, you Trumpers don't actually have any beliefs of your own, you just follow blindly with whatever Trump does, I guess because you're afraid that you'll get removed from the mailing list if he finds out you dare criticized dear leader.So of course now that Trump has us entangled in a new regime change war in the Middle East, you do a complete 180 and go "this is exactly what I voted for!"You don't have the slightest clue what America voted for Who did you vote for?
March 13Mar 13 2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:You don't have the slightest clue what America voted forSerious question, is this war what you voted for? I'm not asking for an explanation. Just a simple yes or no.
March 13Mar 13 2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:We held both Iraq and Afghanistan in the palm of our hand. We also launched massive ground invasions there.Neither of those countries were dealing with massive protests where there was momentum for regime change in our favor.So boots on the ground, right?! Enlighten us how we get regime change in Iran without boots on the ground? Let's hear it General WV Mike!
March 13Mar 13 13 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:You don't have the slightest clue what America voted forWho did you vote for?
March 13Mar 13 16 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:You don't have the slightest clue what America voted forWho did you vote for?The words of a "man" who can't possibly bring himself to admit he was duped by a carnival barking conman. What a fragile ego.
March 13Mar 13 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:The words of a "man" who can't possibly bring himself to admit he was duped by a carnival barking conman. What a fragile ego.who f'd kids. you can't forget that he supports a kid f'er. opps, my bad, teenage f'er.
March 13Mar 13 29 minutes ago, Paul852 said:Be sure to pull yours as well.Allow me...On 10/3/2023 at 9:22 AM, Mike31mt said:Who f'ing cares??It's. Not. Our. War. Iraq wasnt our war.Iran wasnt our war. And Ukraine isn't our war.Ukraine has their own military.
March 13Mar 13 Just now, we_gotta_believe said:Allow me...On 10/3/2023 at 9:22 AM, Mike31mt said:Who f'ing cares??It's. Not. Our. War. Iraq wasnt our war.Iran wasnt our war. And Ukraine isn't our war.Ukraine has their own military. oh sheet @Mike31mt - another award for you. that's three just today.
March 13Mar 13 24 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:We held both Iraq and Afghanistan in the palm of our hand. We also launched massive ground invasions there.Neither of those countries were dealing with massive protests where there was momentum for regime change in our favor.Exactly what I saying. The good Iranans that survive the bombing gonna be ready to join us to MIGA and then we can stop the excursion and bring our boys back home
March 13Mar 13 8 minutes ago, Bear Grylls said:Exactly what I saying. The good Iranans that survive the bombing gonna be ready to join us to MIGA and then we can stop the excursion and bring our boys back homefinally, the MIGA brain trust showed up!!!
March 13Mar 13 1 hour ago, Mike31mt said:You don't have the slightest clue what America voted forWho did you vote for?I actually do know what America voted for because there was a campaign, remember? So we all know what Trump ran on to get people to vote for him vs what he’s actually doing?I held my nose and voted for Harris, knowing full well that I’d be disagreeing with the majority of her policy decisions. But I also knew that she wouldn’t be dumb enough to start a global trade war with the rest of the world, and that with a Republican Congress, she wouldn’t be able to get anything that she would actually want done. And we might have even seen some deficit reduction, as that’s what typically happens when there is a Democrat president and a Republican house. That’s the only time that republicans actually act like conservatives.
March 13Mar 13 55 minutes ago, Paul852 said:You're good at this.These rubes make it way easier than it should be
March 13Mar 13 1 hour ago, Boogyman said:I tried my whole life to put lots of effort into keeping in shape, I spend more time working out now than I did when I was young. Doing a lot of mobility work reaps huge benefits as you age as far as maintaining agility and preventing injuryYeah I need to do more basic stretching, etc. along with the weight reps. I probably only do 15 mins 3x a week of stretching.
March 13Mar 13 1 hour ago, Mike31mt said:We held both Iraq and Afghanistan in the palm of our hand. We also launched massive ground invasions there.Neither of those countries were dealing with massive protests where there was momentum for regime change in our favor.Right we lost thousands of American troops and spent trillions of dollars occupying Afghanistan and Iraq, only for decades later to hand Afghanistan back to the Taliban, and while Iraq is at least isn’t controlled by a ruthless dictator, it’s not like it’s some thriving stable nation.But sure, THIS TIME it will be different….Like I said, you have learned absolutely nothing from recent history. Iran has a population of over 90 million people. The Islamic republic regime has been in charge nearly 50 years and it took control through an uprising by the people. While there have been protests by some very brave people, the reality is that they unfortunately represent a minority of the population. A tyrannically regime doesn’t stay in power for as long as it has without having subsets of the population that either a) directly support their cause, b) are sympathetic to their cause, and c) not supportive of their cause but not enough to the point that they are willing to make a potential sacrifice in order to do something about it.
March 13Mar 13 3 hours ago, Dave Moss said:You guys think the other 2 made it?Unfortunately, no. They did not.
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