19 hours ago19 hr 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:Your timeline is off.My timeline is not off. You keep on refusing to answer my very simple question. Why did insurance companies start cancelling policies on those vessels?
19 hours ago19 hr 6 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:Look it's pretty simple. Iran was threatening to attack ships trying to navigate the Strait. Vessels stopped trying to traverse the strait because the people leading those ships didn't want to die in a boat strike. In response to Iran's threats, insurance companies started cancelling policies because if they didn't cancel policies they would lose a boatload of money in paying out claims if a ship tried to navigate the strait and got blown up. Insurance companies cancelling policies was to protect their own financial interests. It's not what caused vessels to stop trying to navigate the strait. Vessels stopped trying to navigate the strait because they didn't want to get blown up. You think the captain of a ship gives a sh-t about whether or not the company that owns the boat will be covered if they get blown up? Like what, he'll be looking down from heaven going "Well I'm dead, but at least the corporation who owns the boat won't suffer a financial loss because of this!"And even with insurance companies cancelling policies, boats that had coordinated with the IRGC to allow for safe passage through the strait (likely through paying a toll) continued to traverse the Strait.Gee, it's almost as if the reasons for vessels not traversing the strait was the fear of being blown up in a boat attack.....Oh, so you ADMIT insurance companies were involved. You might be able to be cured of your TDS yet.
19 hours ago19 hr 2 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:My timeline is not off. You keep on refusing to answer my very simple question. Why did insurance companies start cancelling policies on those vessels?War startsInsurance stops the movement of ships because the war startsTrump offers to underwriteIran mumbles it's closed few days after but not much happens AFTER the insurance companies already didMore talkMinister says it's open a few weeks laterIRG starts BS in force with mines and rockets mid MarchTrump closes it AprilI've answered a few times and Google said so as well. Trump and Israel hit them.Oh, somewhere towards the start people started saying Iran's navy would close it and I said no chance they will have a prayer with ours there and Doc and I got into it.
19 hours ago19 hr 19 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:War startsInsurance stops the movement of ships because the war startsTrump offers to underwriteIran mumbles it's closed few days after but not much happens AFTER the insurance companies already didMore talkMinister says it's open a few weeks laterIRG starts BS in force with mines and rockets mid MarchTrump closes it AprilI've answered a few times and Google said so as well. Trump and Israel hit them.Oh, somewhere towards the start people started saying Iran's navy would close it and I said no chance they will have a prayer with ours there and Doc and I got into it.
18 hours ago18 hr 1 hour ago, paco said:False. KZ's posts actually had thought put behind them.Eh not really. He was adamant about tariffs not being pushed down to the consumer because for profit companies would choose to just eat the cost instead. That's stupidity right up there with the Limu Emu shutting down the strait IMO.
18 hours ago18 hr 36 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:War startsInsurance stops the movement of ships because the war startsTrump offers to underwriteIran mumbles it's closed few days after but not much happens AFTER the insurance companies already didMore talkMinister says it's open a few weeks laterIRG starts BS in force with mines and rockets mid MarchTrump closes it AprilI've answered a few times and Google said so as well. Trump and Israel hit them.Oh, somewhere towards the start people started saying Iran's navy would close it and I said no chance they will have a prayer with ours there and Doc and I got into it.Still refusing to answer my simple question. Why did insurance companies start cancelling policies for ships trying to navigate the strait?"Insurance stops the movement of ships because the war starts"Insurance companies are incapable of "stopping movement". They do not have an enforceable arm to do that. This statement shows that you don't understand the role of insurance.what you're also implying here is that had insurance companies not starting cancelling policies, that everything would have been all hunky dory in the strait and ships would have just been passing through left and right, which is an effing laughable proposition given the reality that Iran has been attacking ships who have attempted to pass through the strait without paying them a toll.
18 hours ago18 hr 2 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:Still refusing to answer my simple question. Why did insurance companies start cancelling policies for ships trying to navigate the strait?"Insurance stops the movement of ships because the war starts"Insurance companies are incapable of "stopping movement". They do not have an enforceable arm to do that. This statement shows that you don't understand the role of insurance.Keep spitting in the wind 🤣
18 hours ago18 hr Just now, Diehardfan said:Keep spitting in the wind 🤣The only person spitting in the wind is you since you are apparently incapable of answering the very simple question of "why did insurance companies start cancelling those policies?" Clearly someone with all the answers such as yourself should be able to answer this simple question , yes? what you're also implying here is that had insurance companies not starting cancelling policies, that everything would have been all hunky dory in the strait and ships would have just been passing through left and right, which is an effing laughable proposition given the reality that Iran has been attacking ships who have attempted to pass through the strait without paying them a toll.Gee, it's almost as if the reason ships stopped trying to navigate the strait was because their captains didn't want to get blown up in a boat attack. And that the insurance companies cancelling policies was simply to protect their own financial interests so that they wouldn't be liable for damages should a ship try to navigate the strait and get blown up....
18 hours ago18 hr 13 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:Eh not really. He was adamant about tariffs not being pushed down to the consumer because for profit companies would choose to just eat the cost instead. That's stupidity right up there with the Limu Emu shutting down the strait IMO.I didn't say anything about the conclusion or POV. But he at least constructs an argument vs saying "You have TDS" 50 different ways.
18 hours ago18 hr "Iran mumbles it's closed few days after but not much happens AFTER the insurance companies already did"Is that MAGA allegory for Iran attacking four commercial vessels, two in transit, killing 3 people on board in the process? Because that part wasn't obvious.
18 hours ago18 hr hey numbnuts: if you ask AI specifically about a cause, yeah it'll tell you it's part of it. and you can even try to present it as a primary cause.but you're an idiot and don't want to ask the right way. because if you did, your brain would start to smoke. the war has made it unsafe for ships to pass, and thus operationally uninsurable. the inability to get insurance is the effect of the war. not the root cause of why ships cannot proceed, which is the war that Trump chose to wage.go back to your echo chamber of lies, or learn something. pick one.
18 hours ago18 hr 1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:War startsInsurance stops the movement of ships because the war startsTrump offers to underwriteIran mumbles it's closed few days after but not much happens AFTER the insurance companies already didMore talkMinister says it's open a few weeks laterIRG starts BS in force with mines and rockets mid MarchTrump closes it AprilI've answered a few times and Google said so as well. Trump and Israel hit them.Oh, somewhere towards the start people started saying Iran's navy would close it and I said no chance they will have a prayer with ours there and Doc and I got into it.I'll make it easy for you.War startsIran states they will attack ships transiting strait.Ship owners don't want to lose ships or worse yet have their staff killed.Ships don't transit.Insurance companies can't bring sailors back to life you moron.
18 hours ago18 hr 4 minutes ago, barho said:I'll make it easy for you.War startsIran states they will attack ships transiting strait.Ship owners don't want to lose ships or worse yet have their staff killed.Ships don't transit.Insurance companies can't bring sailors back to life you moron.Wrong order. I've posted from Grok and Google. Believe what you want
18 hours ago18 hr Iran War / Shipping / Insurance Timeline (2026)February 28, 2026War begins (U.S. / Israel vs Iran)→ Immediate risk spike in the Persian Gulf / Strait of HormuzLate February – March 2, 2026Shipping disruption begins→ Marine insurers cancel or restrict war-risk coverage→ Insurance costs surge to extreme levels→ ~150 ships stranded waiting for coverage or safe passage→ Oil tanker movement slows dramaticallyMarch 2, 2026Iran escalates and issues threats→ Increased attacks / risk to commercial shipping→ Insurance market tightens further→ Movement through Strait of Hormuz nearly freezes normal trade@barho from ChatGTP so that's 3 (Google, Grok, GPT)Keep trying
18 hours ago18 hr Just now, Diehardfan said:Iran War / Shipping / Insurance Timeline (2026)February 28, 2026War begins (U.S. / Israel vs Iran)→ Immediate risk spike in the Persian Gulf / Strait of HormuzLate February – March 2, 2026Shipping disruption begins→ Marine insurers cancel or restrict war-risk coverage→ Insurance costs surge to extreme levels→ ~150 ships stranded waiting for coverage or safe passage→ Oil tanker movement slows dramaticallyMarch 2, 2026Iran escalates and issues threats→ Increased attacks / risk to commercial shipping→ Insurance market tightens further→ Movement through Strait of Hormuz nearly freezes normal trade@barho from ChatGTP so that's 3 (Google, Grok, GPT)Keep tryingGot it. So if insurers insured the ships the companies would still transit and be fine with people being killed. You're even dumber then I thought you were.
18 hours ago18 hr "The insurance companies closed the straight" is like blaming the divorce lawyer for your failing marriage. It's an absurdist claim, palatable to MAGA because it doesn't lay the blame on Trump or give the credit to Iran, the actual parties at fault.
18 hours ago18 hr Just now, barho said:Got it. So if insurers insured the ships the companies would still transit and be fine with people being killed. You're even dumber then I thought you were.Look at you crying you got the timeline wrong and are now triggered. I'd say just take the L but you all are incapable.Insurance companies closed itIran said no we are closing it after watching ships sit there scared for a few daysLater that month their minister says it's not closedIRG starts the BS with rockets and minesLike I said
18 hours ago18 hr 2 hours ago, Diehardfan said:Same issue with the straight. Their politicians want a deal the IRG says no. Two factions inside Iran.The guy who had a meltdown when Trump was called an octogenerian is calling it the "straight" of Hormuz like he's playing Hold Em. Hate to see it.
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