12 hours ago12 hr Man, it seems like just 2 days ago there was a lot of celebrating going on over the strait being open. Time sure does get away from you sometimes.
12 hours ago12 hr 4 minutes ago, Paul852 said:Man, it seems like just 2 days ago there was a lot of celebrating going on over the strait being open. Time sure does get away from you sometimes. Yeah like when the insurance companies did early March and the IRG was late March. Pepperidge Farm remembers.
11 hours ago11 hr 19 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:Yeah like when the insurance companies did early March and the IRG was late March. Pepperidge Farm remembers.You voted for this mess. 🤣
11 hours ago11 hr 1 minute ago, barho said:You voted for this mess. 🤣Sure did. Did you hear by every metric Iran was better 🤣
11 hours ago11 hr 1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:To be fair Iran actually did. Let's review for idiots here.People said Iran's navy was closing it. I said no chance their navy can do that which kicked the convo off.Insurance companies closed it by stopping traffic in early MarchTrump offered to cover losses in response to the insurance companies closing itTheir minister said it wasn’t closedThe IRGC did their thing AFTER the insurance companies stopped the flow late MarchTrump closed itI've been right the entire time.JFC
11 hours ago11 hr 1 minute ago, paco said:Grok check it so you can get translated to Spanish version of the timing showing me to be right
11 hours ago11 hr 1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:To be fair Iran actually did. Let's review for idiots here.People said Iran's navy was closing it. I said no chance their navy can do that which kicked the convo off.Insurance companies closed it by stopping traffic in early MarchTrump offered to cover losses in response to the insurance companies closing itTheir minister said it wasn’t closedThe IRGC did their thing AFTER the insurance companies stopped the flow late MarchTrump closed itI've been right the entire time.Holy sh-t. Please tell me you are trolling. Please please please tell me you are trolling.
11 hours ago11 hr @paco Never say I didn't do anything for you. Your summary is right in capturing the chaotic, back-and-forth sequence around the Strait of Hormuz (often misspelled as "straight") during the 2026 Iran conflict, but the exact order and details have some nuances based on reports. Here's a clarified timeline drawn from events in late February through mid-April 2026:Key Sequence of EventsInsurance companies effectively "stopped" commercial movement (late Feb/early March 2026):After US/Israeli strikes on Iran began around Feb 28, war-risk insurance premiums for ships transiting the Strait of Hormuz skyrocketed (rising 4–6x or more in days), and many major insurers canceled or restricted coverage. This made it economically unviable for most commercial tankers to sail through, even without a full physical blockade. It was often described as an "insurance-driven shutdown" rather than purely military.en.wikipedia.orgTrump offered to underwrite insurance (early March, around March 3):President Trump announced that the US International Development Finance Corporation (DFC) would provide political risk insurance and guarantees (initially up to $20B, later expanded) for maritime trade, especially energy shipments through the Gulf. He also floated US Navy escorts for tankers "if necessary." Ship owners were skeptical, as the core issue was physical risk to crews and vessels, not just financial coverage.cnn.comIranian minister/FM said it "wasn't closed" (around late March):Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi (and others) stated that the strait was not closed to ships from countries not at war with Iran. They framed any slowdown as due to high insurance prices, security concerns, or voluntary decisions by shippers—not an official Iranian closure. Iran claimed it was only restricting vessels linked to adversaries.crisisgroup.orgIranian Revolutionary Guard (IRGC) effectively closed/restricted it:The IRGC Navy (and related forces) declared or enforced closures/restrictions multiple times, often in response to US/Israeli actions, attacks on ships, or the ongoing US naval blockade of Iranian ports. They carried out or threatened strikes on transiting vessels, laid mines in some reports, and used gunboats. This made the strait "effectively closed" to most traffic despite occasional claims it was open. The IRGC has been the main enforcer on the Iranian side.congress.govTrump "did" (issued ultimatums, threats, and responses):Trump repeatedly set (and extended) deadlines for Iran to fully open the strait, threatening to strike Iranian power plants, oil infrastructure, or other targets if it wasn't reopened. He celebrated brief reopenings or claimed progress, while maintaining pressure via the US blockade and military posture. There were short periods where Iran appeared to ease restrictions (or claimed to), only for the IRGC to reimpose controls shortly after—creating the on-again, off-again dynamic. As of mid-to-late April 2026, tensions persist with recent re-closures tied to the US blockade and ceasefire disputes.nytimes.com
11 hours ago11 hr Just now, Phillyterp85 said:Holy sh-t. Please tell me you are trolling. Please please please tell me you are trolling.Nope. That's a fact Jack. But with you mentally ill people facts won't be accepted. Left is right up is down, etc. Or my favorite "Iran is better in every metric"
11 hours ago11 hr The US stated it had different goalsJust now, Phillyterp85 said:Holy sh-t. Please tell me you are trolling. Please please please tell me you are trolling.I thought that at first but I think he’s really that stupid.
11 hours ago11 hr 1 minute ago, Phillyterp85 said:Holy sh-t. Please tell me you are trolling. Please please please tell me you are trolling.Hes not, but later he might say he was anyway lmao
11 hours ago11 hr Just now, Gannan said:The US stated it had different goalsI thought that at first but I think he’s really that stupid.A few times im pretty sure he realized how stupid he sounds and pretended he was trolling later, its really sad to watch.
11 hours ago11 hr 8 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:Nope. That's a fact Jack. But with you mentally ill people facts won't be accepted. Left is right up is down, etc. Or my favorite "Iran is better in every metric"That is not anywhere close to a fact. Holy sh-t, imagine thinking that insurance companies closed the strait of Hormuz. SMH…….
11 hours ago11 hr 5 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:That is not anywhere close to a fact. Holy sh-t, imagine thinking that insurance companies closed the strait of Hormuz. SMH…….
11 hours ago11 hr 22 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:That is not anywhere close to a fact. Holy sh-t, imagine thinking that insurance companies closed the strait of Hormuz. SMH…….I posted the fact check. Wait, now I lnow why you all root for the IRG. You love distortions and hate facts just like them 🤣
11 hours ago11 hr 32 minutes ago, Gannan said:The US stated it had different goalsI thought that at first but I think he’s really that stupid.Iran is better by every metric man checks in
11 hours ago11 hr 2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:I posted the fact check. Wait, now I lnow why you all root for the IRG. You love distortions and hate facts just like them 🤣No, you didn’t. No one is rooting for the IRG. Get your head out of your a s s. Insurance companies didn’t close the strait FFS. The IRGC closed the strait by attacking ships that tried to go through the strait. I’m not sure what you’re not understanding about this very simple fact.
11 hours ago11 hr Eating sh** and getting curb stomped every day for Trump, of all people. I will never, ever understand it.
10 hours ago10 hr 4 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:No, you didn’t. No one is rooting for the IRG. Get your head out of your a s s. Insurance companies didn’t close the strait FFS. The IRGC closed the strait by attacking ships that tried to go through the strait. I’m not sure what you’re not understanding about this very simple fact.I posted the fact checked list of events. Lucky for me being right isn't conditional upon you accepting it.
10 hours ago10 hr 55 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:@pacoNever say I didn't do anything for you.Your summary is right in capturing the chaotic, back-and-forth sequence around the Strait of Hormuz (often misspelled as "straight") during the 2026 Iran conflict, but the exact order and details have some nuances based on reports. Here's a clarified timeline drawn from events in late February through mid-April 2026:Key Sequence of EventsInsurance companies effectively "stopped" commercial movement (late Feb/early March 2026):After US/Israeli strikes on Iran began around Feb 28, war-risk insurance premiums for ships transiting the Strait of Hormuz skyrocketed (rising 4–6x or more in days), and many major insurers canceled or restricted coverage. This made it economically unviable for most commercial tankers to sail through, even without a full physical blockade. It was often described as an "insurance-driven shutdown" rather than purely military.en.wikipedia.orgTrump offered to underwrite insurance (early March, around March 3):President Trump announced that the US International Development Finance Corporation (DFC) would provide political risk insurance and guarantees (initially up to $20B, later expanded) for maritime trade, especially energy shipments through the Gulf. He also floated US Navy escorts for tankers "if necessary." Ship owners were skeptical, as the core issue was physical risk to crews and vessels, not just financial coverage.cnn.comIranian minister/FM said it "wasn't closed" (around late March):Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi (and others) stated that the strait was not closed to ships from countries not at war with Iran. They framed any slowdown as due to high insurance prices, security concerns, or voluntary decisions by shippers—not an official Iranian closure. Iran claimed it was only restricting vessels linked to adversaries.crisisgroup.orgIranian Revolutionary Guard (IRGC) effectively closed/restricted it:The IRGC Navy (and related forces) declared or enforced closures/restrictions multiple times, often in response to US/Israeli actions, attacks on ships, or the ongoing US naval blockade of Iranian ports. They carried out or threatened strikes on transiting vessels, laid mines in some reports, and used gunboats. This made the strait "effectively closed" to most traffic despite occasional claims it was open. The IRGC has been the main enforcer on the Iranian side.congress.govTrump "did" (issued ultimatums, threats, and responses):Trump repeatedly set (and extended) deadlines for Iran to fully open the strait, threatening to strike Iranian power plants, oil infrastructure, or other targets if it wasn't reopened. He celebrated brief reopenings or claimed progress, while maintaining pressure via the US blockade and military posture. There were short periods where Iran appeared to ease restrictions (or claimed to), only for the IRGC to reimpose controls shortly after—creating the on-again, off-again dynamic. As of mid-to-late April 2026, tensions persist with recent re-closures tied to the US blockade and ceasefire disputes.nytimes.comlol triggered
10 hours ago10 hr Anyone watch that video where we hit the ship?Anyone else hear the delayed high pitch "tink" that sounded like a metal target at a gun range?
9 hours ago9 hr 1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:I posted the fact checked list of events. Lucky for me being right isn't conditional upon you accepting it.The only person not accepting a basic fact is you. Insurance companies didn’t close the strait. The IRGC closed the strait by attacking ships that tried to pass through.
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