3 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Brian Daboll, Todd Monken, Kevin Stefanski, Mike McDaniel, Cliff Kingsbury, Kevin Patullo, Other....who will be the Eagles next OC, who do you want?

I really like Stefanski but I think he gets ATL job. I said months ago I thought Kafka was the guy they'd actually hire so I'll stick with that prediction. I think Kingsbury is a realistic option. I don't think he'll get Ravens job tho he could and the Eagles were close with him last time

2 hours ago, Arsenal79 said:

I think this is an excuse considering the defense just got a bye week AND the offense controlled the ball most of the game.

We all thought we had a Super Bowl defense just like last year. Sadly, we did not.

All year long the defense has had to pitch perfect games, they finally couldn't on Sunday and people are blaming them instead of the offense that scored a whopping 6 second half points against a bottom 15 defense.

The defense didn't play perfectly like they did for most of the season, and we lost because the offense yet again failed to reach 20 points for like the 9th time this season

2 minutes ago, devpool said:

All year long the defense has had to pitch perfect games, they finally couldn't on Sunday and people are blaming them instead of the offense that scored a whopping 6 second half points against a bottom 15 defense.

The defense didn't play perfectly like they did for most of the season, and we lost because the offense yet again failed to reach 20 points for like the 9th time this season

There's a distinction... the defense deserves more than 0% of the blame, and that's more interesting to talk about than the offense which is just depressing to think about.

2 hours ago, Arsenal79 said:

I think this is an excuse considering the defense just got a bye week AND the offense controlled the ball most of the game.

We all thought we had a Super Bowl defense just like last year. Sadly, we did not.

Like someone said earlier. ....the defense this year was really good but not great. They had some rough moments this year letting teams come back, Dallas, Denver, couldn't stop Dart and the NYG.

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

If he weren’t Sirianni’s best friend I’d say there’s no chance of a demotion.

That's why it's so important he goes. You can't bring in a new guy and saddle him with that baggage. I think Luwie knows that and will allow the purge of O staff this time. But time will tell

I wish Lurie would nut up and fire Sirianni and Patullo. Start over and actually hire a head coach who isn’t a "personality manager” and can actually fix things when they go wrong

They need to get it to it and stop dilly dallying

14 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Brian Daboll, Todd Monken, Kevin Stefanski, Mike McDaniel, Cliff Kingsbury, Kevin Patullo, Other....who will be the Eagles next OC, who do you want?

Daboll is applying for head coaching jobs. Monken said he wants to go with Harbaugh.

Just now, Khani1 said:

Daboll is applying for head coaching jobs. Monken said he wants to go with Harbaugh.

Monken is interviewing to be the OC in Tampa…

1 minute ago, Waiting4Someday said:

There's a distinction... the defense deserves more than 0% of the blame, and that's more interesting to talk about than the offense which is just depressing to think about.

Sure, more than 0 is like 10%. You obviously have the offense, then you have elliot missing the early PAT that would've at least given us a chance to tie at the end, then far far down the list is the defense that forced two turnovers and gave the offense pretty good field position for the most part.

The defense is so far from being a problem which is why it's just as pointless to talk about. Funny how every game people are claiming the defense choked away, the offense failed to do anything in the second half. There was zero complementary football, all year.

It sucks their worst game (which was still fine) came in the playoffs. But if the offense scored even 1 TD off of 2 turnovers near midfield then it's a different game. They can't make every stop, but that's what they needed to do.

15 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

If he weren’t Sirianni’s best friend I’d say there’s no chance of a demotion.

Lurie/Howie allowing that would be very troublesome

16 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

demoting him would be a terrible course of action.

If they keep Siri, it wouldn’t shock me if demoting him happens. Mostly bec he’s a clown that has no idea what he’s doing

21 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

While the defense obviously knows the offense struggled, I bet to a man they feel like they let the team down by not closing out that game. Ojomo himself said the defense needs to learn to close games out better.

I'm guessing they do. And so would anyone that has a team mentality.

There is urgency because if Siri pulls a dug and says if Patullo goes then I go then you'd want to know while the HC candidates are still all out there. I very much doubt that happens but you need to drive it to a conclusion asap

8 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I'd really like to see them officially announce Patullo is gone today or tomorrow. I think the optics of waiting are lame. There is no need to be respectful for appearances sake. Quite the opposite. Everyone and their brother knows Patullo was a problem and needs to go.

I think there will be a new OC announced before Patullo's role is officially changed. Sirianni has enough sway to keep Patullo.

6 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Lurie/Howie allowing that would be very troublesome

Patullo was well liked by the players. I don't think there's personal animosity between him and Jalen. My concern is that they need to develop new talent and keeping him on staff isn't going to help.

43 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

They may want to keep him but he's a UFA. I am not sure that they can do anything about the dead money with a new contract. It's possible they can do something with an extension.

34 minutes ago, Cheesteakitis said:

I’m not a cap nut but overthecap says if we extend him we "save” the money. Something else I assume an extension would push some of what’s due down the road a little further vs having to pay the piper now.

Dallas would have the leverage though after a good season and with a hard deadline for us to have a deal done to save that money.

Honestly if the money wasn’t an issue and we were going off projected free agents right now I would try and sign Kyle Pitts who also finally had a good year and is a lot younger.

They just have to sign him before the start of the new league year when he becomes an UFA to avoid the dead money accelerating. If he hits free agency, he's as good as gone.

I don't think they extend him. He's probably going to want guarantees and years the Eagles don't want to commit to. Especially after making him take a pay cut and almost trading him, it's hard to come back from that.

19 minutes ago, devpool said:

All year long the defense has had to pitch perfect games, they finally couldn't on Sunday and people are blaming them instead of the offense that scored a whopping 6 second half points against a bottom 15 defense.

The defense didn't play perfectly like they did for most of the season, and we lost because the offense yet again failed to reach 20 points for like the 9th time this season

I agree that they don’t deserve to be blamed for the loss when you consider the situation they were put in all year & also in this game. They needed to be almost perfect on Sunday and just couldn’t do it. It’s not meant to dismiss their effort, but when viewing a SB caliber D, I would’ve expected them to hold the 49ers to at least one FG on their two TD drives in the 2nd half. Sure, very high expectations and unfair when you consider the crap show on the other side..

11 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

There's a distinction... the defense deserves more than 0% of the blame, and that's more interesting to talk about than the offense which is just depressing to think about.

Who was giving them zero blaming this? I didn’t give them zero blame. All my initial point was when I start looking at their fourth quarters in games that’s when they start begin having a problems and what was the biggest answer for it. I think there’s multiple answers to this. Felt like watching and then re-watching games the biggest issue in most (not all these particularly this one) 4th quarters is they were on the field a ton and was death by 1000 paper cuts over time. Looked like they were gassed and spent a lot of their energy to keep the game close til that point.

We can call it an excuse that’s fine. Not saying it isn’t. i don’t think it’s consistently getting out schemed. Maybe lack of great talent at some key positions. However, I think it’s at least a valid based off the fact their complementary football this year sucked and over time it wears. I said this months ago that they were gonna win a Super Bowl they had to do it how the 2023 Chiefs did. Very good defense and an offense that struggled to put up points, but they still wound up being 8th overall in dvoa. They were not the great offenses of chiefs past. But they didn’t lead the league in 3 and outs or consistently every game have quarters or halves where they just hung the defense out to dry.

Just now, devpool said:

Sure, more than 0 is like 10%. You obviously have the offense, then you have elliot missing the early PAT that would've at least given us a chance to tie at the end, then far far down the list is the defense that forced two turnovers and gave the offense pretty good field position for the most part.

The defense is so far from being a problem which is why it's just as pointless to talk about. Funny how every game people are claiming the defense choked away, the offense failed to do anything in the second half. There was zero complementary football, all year.

It sucks their worst game (which was still fine) came in the playoffs. But if the offense scored even 1 TD off of 2 turnovers near midfield then it's a different game. They can't make every stop, but that's what they needed to do.

This defense unfortunately isn't the '99 Ravens, which is probably what we needed to win 3 playoff games and the SB. The defense doesn't appear to be quite as good as last year either as that team had an uncanny knack for forcing turnovers. Was this defense good enough to a win a SB, definitely, just not on their own.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Who was giving them zero blaming this? I didn’t give them zero blame. All my initial point was when I start looking at their fourth quarters in games that’s when they start begin having a problems and what was the biggest answer for it. I think there’s multiple answers to this. Felt like watching and then re-watching games the biggest issue in most (not all these particularly this one) 4th quarters is they were on the field a ton and was death by 1000 paper cuts over time. Looked like they were gassed and spent a lot of their energy to keep the game close til that point.

We can call it an excuse that’s fine. Not saying it isn’t. i don’t think it’s consistently getting out schemed. Maybe lack of great talent at some key positions. However, I think it’s at least a valid based off the fact their complementary football this year sucked and over time it wears. I said this months ago that they were gonna win a Super Bowl they had to do it how the 2023 Chiefs did. Very good defense and an offense that struggled to put up points, but they still wound up being 8th overall in dvoa. They were not the great offenses of chiefs past. But they didn’t lead the league in 3 and outs or consistently every game have quarters or halves where they just hung the defense out to dry.

I'm really addressing Manu who thinks I'm unwilling to assign blame to the defense - which of course they have a small share, but to me that conversation is in the realm of "how was the play Mrs. Lincoln". It might be valid, I just don't want to hear it now.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

Most important thing of the offseason is to nail the draft and hire the right OC. Beyond that, I think the most important thing is restraining from spending money. I do not want to see Philips or Goedert re-signed. I do not want to see a big money extension for Carter (I want him extended, but either waiting a year or at a discount considering the 2025 disappointment he's been).

I'd like to see Davis extended though. He transformed the kind of player and quiet leader that he is. You want to set the example of rewarding that.

@EazyEaglez @Bwestbrook36 it's time

I'd like to hope and think the Eagles have used back channels to put the word out and stuff, but the Eagles in the past have kinda dropped the ball on coaching searches in that regard. Were late to fire Pederson, last year people said the same thing. "They knew Moore might get an OC job, they put out feelers!" Turns out... nope.

I could easily see us sitting here a couple weeks from now saying we missed out on the top names because they dragged their feet on this. But they better get to it soon.