42 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

I get all the pearl clutching over Cam's "self reported" concussion symptoms, but does anyone really think that's what happened?

Curious what you mean by this? Do you mean that it could be a ‘phantom’ thing. Or it was like the episode of the office where Michael grills his foot on a Forman grill 🤣.

I will say last one I had…adrenaline, cortisol, endorphins, serotonin, dopamine and all the other chemicals your body releases during stuff like this are pretty easy to get out of whack. The brain fires all sorts of ways to try and normalize. I felt just a little off for a while after my last one. Brushed off our medic and let my ‘ego’ take over. The next day when I woke up and stumbled out of the tent, as soon as the sun hit me everything fully kicked in.

The other 2 of my 3 big ones hit or affected me completely different. No 2 TBIs are the same.

2 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Curious what you mean by this? Do you mean that it could be a ‘phantom’ thing. Or it was like the episode of the office where Michael grills his foot on a Forman grill 🤣.

I will say last one I had…adrenaline, cortisol, endorphins, serotonin, dopamine and all the other chemicals your body releases during stuff like this are pretty easy to get out of whack. The brain fires all sorts of ways to try and normalize. I felt just a little off for a while after my last one. Brushed off our medic and let my ‘ego’ take over. The next day when I woke up and stumbled out of the tent, as soon as the sun hit me everything fully kicked in.

The other 2 of my 3 big ones hit or affected me completely different. No 2 TBIs are the same.

I think this is their way of seeing what they have with some of the younger guys in a way that isn't as embarrassing to Jurgens.

1 hour ago, mikemack8 said:

I get all the pearl clutching over Cam's "self reported" concussion symptoms, but does anyone really think that's what happened?

Given everything around the NFL and this particular protocol, it would beyond stupid to use that as a way to soft bench him when they have a built in excuse already with his back.

28 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Such a shame they cant keep Riq

Riq has some really horrid tape over the past couple years. I had reservations about the signing. He keeps this up and he’s getting a massive pay day. I don’t view him as a scheme versatile CB though. Hes a good fit for what we do here though.

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Given everything around the NFL and this particular protocol, it would beyond stupid to use that as a way to soft bench him when they have a built in excuse already with his back.

Maybe? Seems like concussion symptoms are more subjective than a back injury and could be easier for "fake". But I don't know how much the NFL scrutinizes player injuries and how teams manipulate them. They've proven over and over again that they don't REALLY care about player safety.

1 hour ago, DaBirds said:

Yeah this is really what it comes down to for me. There are a bunch of individual mistakes you can point to and say "If this doesn’t happen they win” (which is annoying) but blowing that lead was almost impossible. It took some world class bad coaching to happen.

That thing was a wrap and the story was going to be how the team was so deep it could overcome injuries and mistakes blah blah…

Nick really gave that game away.

Even at 24-23 I don’t think Hurts was getting into FG range the way he was playing in the second half

1 minute ago, mikemack8 said:

I think this is their way of seeing what they have with some of the younger guys in a way that isn't as embarrassing to Jurgens.

It’s possible, yes. However, with the emphasis on head injuries, concussions, law suits, CTE and everything. I’d like to think that this organization has more dignity and respect for that. I just don’t think a concussion is a phantom injury they’d use. Imagine if that came out, it would be worse than the gruden scandal.

Though, maybe Lurie is that poor now and is like f it…if it comes out and I’m forced to sell I get my money. 🤣

2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

You've literally made fun of a military vet's TBI in CVON before. But please keep acting like you're above it all, liehard.

I have zero shame or regret about mocking someone with cognitive issues who came into a room and started throwing around cognitive insults. Don't open the door and start something and then cry and play the victim card after.

Just now, mikemack8 said:

Maybe? Seems like concussion symptoms are more subjective than a back injury and could be easier for "fake". But I don't know how much the NFL scrutinizes player injuries and how teams manipulate them. They've proven over and over again that they don't REALLY care about player safety.

I agree it's probably easier to fake as well as they don't really care about player safety as much as they preach. It's just the fallout if it ever came out that they intentionally were manipulating the concussion protocol would be so extreme it's not even worth it just to protect a players ego.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I agree it's probably easier to fake as well as they don't really care about player safety as much as they preach. It's just the fallout if it ever came out that they intentionally were manipulating the concussion protocol would be so extreme it's not even worth it just to protect a players ego.

Yup, Lurie would be forced to sell. You got entire staffs losing medical licenses. Extensive black balling. Shame to family names. Essentially the NFL equivalent of of the death penalty for the franchise.

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I agree it's probably easier to fake as well as they don't really care about player safety as much as they preach. It's just the fallout if it ever came out that they intentionally were manipulating the concussion protocol would be so extreme it's not even worth it just to protect a players ego.

I don't think they needed to fake anything, Jurgens probably did get his bell rung. Of course, if he wasn't playing so awful would he/they be in such a hurry to disclose it - likely not.

Since the 2nd half of the Bears game, this team is 0/17 on 3rd downs. They haven't converted a 3rd down in 1.5 games.

Love this quote from Sirianni

"It’s a good, healthy sample size right now, but I don't think we really know our identity of what we want to be or where we're going”

Every year we don't have an identity. You go through all of camp and 4 games and you have no idea what your identity as an offense is, how has it been 4 years of this and this idiot still parrots "TOUGH. DETAILED. TOGETHER". No one is together on what this offense is supposed to be

10 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I plugged in an old hard drive yesterday and found this from 21 years ago (according to the saved date).

So you were a thread killer

18 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

What happened?

The cowpads barely got called for any fouls and got repeated calls for new sets of downs when the Texans were stopping them at the goal line despite obvious holding by the cowpads OL. I literally stopped watching it was so unfair. I have said at times that you can’t beat twelve men on the field. Seemed like the Texans had to beat 18 of them. 11 cowpads and all seven refs. Some of those called fouls were phantom. It was disgusting and I was serious about my Kalshi comment. It wasn’t in jest.

Makes you appreciate Jeffrey

40 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Even at 24-23 I don’t think Hurts was getting into FG range the way he was playing in the second half

I agree, which is a part of the reason I was ok going for it at the 2. I’ve said my other reasons before, but I never felt they’d be closer than they were in that moment. They needed that kill shot I felt.

56 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Given everything around the NFL and this particular protocol, it would beyond stupid to use that as a way to soft bench him when they have a built in excuse already with his back.

You are 100% right, but I would never underestimate Nick‘s capacity for stupidity

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

Such a shame they cant keep Riq

It's okay, we have a premier rotational run stuffing DT who played 35% of the snaps Sunday.

56 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Even at 24-23 I don’t think Hurts was getting into FG range the way he was playing in the second half

It wouldn’t have even gotten that far. Run the ball. Punt the ball away. Game over.

11 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

The cowpads barely got called for any fouls and got repeated calls for new sets of downs when the Texans were stopping them at the goal line despite obvious holding by the cowpads OL. I literally stopped watching it was so unfair. I have said at times that you can’t beat twelve men on the field. Seemed like the Texans had to beat 18 of them. 11 cowpads and all seven refs. Some of those called fouls were phantom. It was disgusting and I was serious about my Kalshi comment. It wasn’t in jest.

The NFL is at, what about $8b/yr in revenue a year now? Last year it’s estimated $30b was wagered in sports betting on the NFL alone. I can’t think of a single other business of that scale being left up to chance.

Been saying it since I lived in Vegas and watched line shifts and trends. The deeper you look the weirder it gets. Tin foil hat weird. Then 2 weeks ago, you have sunshine openly admitting he decided to take a knee at the 1 yard line in a not run the clock out scenario so he could help out his teammates fantasy owners? Weird world we live in. Obviously things aren’t WWE scripted but there’s too much money involved to not rationally account for human fallibility.

54 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I have zero shame or regret about mocking someone with cognitive issues who came into a room and started throwing around cognitive insults. Don't open the door and start something and then cry and play the victim card after.

He called you stupid and you decided to make fun of a TBI he experienced from combat. Please stop acting like those two things are in any way comparable.

19 minutes ago, DaBirds said:

It wouldn’t have even gotten that far. Run the ball. Punt the ball away. Game over.

Kicking the field goal to go up 13 points would have made no sense at all. It was the right choice to go for it, but not a good enough play called in that situation.