7 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

We’ve been talking about hots for YEARS, but the play just seems to proceed as called for acceptable results on average.

So what happened between the 2022, 2023, and 2024 seasons to make such a drastic difference in results when facing a blitz? If the play just "seemed to proceed as called for years", surely you can point to something to explain such a stark turnaround.

Just now, EaglePhan1986 said:

I think most fans will just be happy with a win. Is it OK to root for both McKee and Hurts?

Many of you act as if cheering on both of them is the same as saying you’re an Eagles and Cowboys fan

For many of us, cheering for the eagles includes hoping for a good QB. Still thrilled when they win with Hurts, but still want better play at that position. Frustrated by "meat on the bone". Frustrated by every week, every win feeling so tumultuous because the QB is so inconsistent and we cant just win easy like the rest of the roster should be able to. In that context, frustrated by him holding the team back yes, Im aware they have won a super bowl with him).

For the other side, Hurts went out and they started rooting for the team to lose immediately. Not even actual eagles fans.

1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I think most fans will just be happy with a win. Is it OK to root for both McKee and Hurts?

Many of you act as if cheering on both of them is the same as saying you’re an Eagles and Cowboys fan

I'm 100% rooting for McKee to win as stated earlier in the week.

But this whole narrative about McKee being some hero because he "knows the offense" is bottom-tier fanhood nonsense .

If the OL looks like an NFL OL today, McKee has a chance. If not, and he gets the same level of play, he'll look much worse than Hurts because he has nowhere to run.

6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

It's slow because our OL has been bottom 3 in the NFL. We can't run a play action. We can't run anything.

The run game makes his brain process slower?

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

For many of us, cheering for the eagles includes hoping for a good QB. Still thrilled when they win with Hurts, but still want better play at that position.

For the other side, Hurts went out and they started rooting for the team to lose. Not even actual eagles fans.

You liar. All you do is complain if Hurts wins. Don't piss down my leg and tell me it's raining.

You all keep talking yourself into positions you know you can't defend. Thats why we see the hedging today about practice time and throwing mechanics.

Just now, Khani1 said:

The run game makes his brain process slower?

There is no run game. Do you know how play action works?

We can't run this stuff because the OL can't block. There is no QB in the NFL that can succeed with poor pass blocking and no run game. Not Mahomes, not anyone.

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

You liar. All you do is complain if Hurts wins. Don't piss down my leg and tell me it's raining.

You all keep talking yourself into positions you know you can't defend. Thats why we see the hedging today about practice time and throwing mechanics.

wrong...

9 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

McKee practiced most of the week. Are these McXcuses already?

He better look great today.

Things McKee can do today to look better than Hurts so far this year.

Lead the offense to a 1st quarter TD drive.

Lead the offense to more than 3 first quarter points.

Lead the offense to a 3rd quarter TD drive.

Lead the offense to more than 3 third quarter points.

Throw for more than 200 yards.

Complete at least 60% of his passes.

Not get sacked multiple times.

Not lead an offense that has the most 3 and outs this week.

Eagles have their first 100 yard rusher.

It really is amazing how bad the offense has been.

The Eagles average 13 points in the second quarter. They average 1.7 points in all other quarters.

15 total combined 1st, 3rd and 4th quarters through 5 games.

9 of 15 quarters they have been shut out.

4 of 15 they have scored 3 points.

2 of 15 they have scored 7 points.

36 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

What skill is that, exactly?

The ability to not run the offense that he's being told to run?

Please point out all of these "hot routes" that Hurts is missing.

Oh yes. Every offense since hes joined the nfl hasnt ran hot routes XD probably has nothing to do with him and his choices.

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Sports aside, really hope the kid is okay. That has to be scary and frustrating as hell

1 minute ago, Shalodeep said:

Oh yes. Every offense since hes joined the nfl hasnt ran hot routes XD probably has nothing to do with him and his choices.

Until @Mike31mt tells us what he thinks a hot route is, not even worth discussing it with him. He is going to carry on like a preteen girl and throw out a bunch of strawman nonsense. He knows if he answers the question, he is going to get owned and look even more foolish than he already does.

6 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

His fastest release time is still slow. Dude processes in slow motion. And his arm isn’t strong enough for a lot of throws.

PHI will continue to see more blitzes than most all, if not all teams until they can show they can protect against it or beat it with consistency.

There isn’t a stat that is tracked for audibles called at the line but in watching more PHI football over the last few years I don’t see a lot of changes at the line, even with a healthy OLine. I’m not saying that’s on the QB, it’s just what I see. Trying to go more under center against cover 0 or more exotic blitzes without adjustments at the LOS is difficult for any offense. Is it by design or should more audibles be called? Maybe I’m just not seeing them and they’re actually being called.

4 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Have they fully guaranteed his contract and made him the majority owner of the Eagles yet?

3 minutes ago, Lambo said:

Things McKee can do today to look better than Hurts so far this year.

Lead the offense to a 1st quarter TD drive.

Lead the offense to more than 3 first quarter points.

Lead the offense to a 3rd quarter TD drive.

Lead the offense to more than 3 third quarter points.

Throw for more than 200 yards.

Complete at least 60% of his passes.

Not get sacked multiple times.

Not lead an offense that has the most 3 and outs this week.

Eagles have their first 100 yard rusher.

It really is amazing how bad the offense has been.

The Eagles average 13 points in the second quarter. They average 1.7 points in all other quarters.

15 total combined 1st, 3rd and 4th quarters through 5 games.

9 of 15 quarters they have been shut out.

4 of 15 they have scored 3 points.

2 of 15 they have scored 7 points.

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

So what happened between the 2022, 2023, and 2024 seasons to make such a drastic difference in results when facing a blitz? If the play just "seemed to proceed as called for years", surely you can point to something to explain such a stark turnaround.

In those years the OL was very good at picking up the blitz, Jalen had the escapability and mentality to try to make big plays with his legs when they didn’t, we had the targets on the outside to reliably catch the deep ball. We could even just kill to run to get a decent gain. Hot reads might have just been relegated as a needless complication. It was very frustrating on days where we couldn’t run away with it and the weather particularly messed with the deep ball accuracy.

4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

There is no run game. Do you know how play action works?

We can't run this stuff because the OL can't block. There is no QB in the NFL that can succeed with poor pass blocking and no run game. Not Mahomes, not anyone.

How does play action work?

15 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

This is kind of just a variant of sunk cost fallacy though, and to be honest, it sets the coaching staff up to fail.

No, it's reality. You can make any statement you want, but over the last half decade nobody has been drafted and is better than Hurts has been winning big games. Williams at times, but mentally the dude cries in his mom's arms. Purdy is a system guy and wasn't a high pick. Daniels? No. The reality is you get someone as good or worse than Hurts. That doesn't mean he's QB for life, but they have a good roster. You build around him this offseason and see what happens and draft one in 28 if one lands in your lap. Get an edge, CB, etc.

People here like to complain about him, which I get because he has flaws, but it's coming from a place of being spoiled and not realizing what we have. They have a talented roster that can be greatly improved this offseason addressing the OL. He's the best answer the next 1-2 years and you don't reach for a QB just for the hell of it. If there is someone in the 2nd, 3rd, etc go for it but use a high pick this year on the rest of the team.

3 minutes ago, Lambo said:

Until @Mike31mt tells us what he thinks a hot route is, not even worth discussing it with him. He is going to carry on like a preteen girl and throw out a bunch of strawman nonsense. He knows if he answers the question, he is going to get owned and look even more foolish than he already does.

Just always seems everyone on the Philadelphia coaching squads have either hated jalen openly with their schemes and have endangered their own jobs to show that hate.....or hear me out....people dont know wtf they are talking about.

1 minute ago, Khani1 said:

How does play action work?

Well, the are very similar to hot routes, in that blocking and playcalling and scheme are completely irrelevant and the only factor is how fast a QB can throw it.

For example, it really doesn't matter that there is an unblocked passrusher on half of our throws, Hurts should be able to turn his back to the defense and still sense where everyone is and throw accordingly. It's what Philip Rivers did, which is why he is a sure fire HOF and champion.

2 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

people dont know wtf they are talking about.

Stroud is having a hell of a game

1 minute ago, Shalodeep said:

Just always seems everyone on the Philadelphia coaching squads have either hated jalen openly with their schemes and have endangered their own jobs to show that hate.....or hear me out....people dont know wtf they are talking about.

I think all the hitches and verts consternation was willful ignorance… those route designs were tailored to the QB and what he does well.

Credit to Cj stroud looks good so far this year. They are 1-4 but really some of that is injuries and their defense hasn’t been nearly as good as years past. He has 0 INTs so far this year (naturally he will now throw one). But he’s been regressing badly the past couple years and now looks solid to even good.