January 2, 20224 yr 3 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Well shoulders are both. Internal shoulder rotation is really common for a reason. Also, the pull muscles are bigger muscles. Just do a little googling on push vs pull, I'm buzzed from the game and probably won't explain it right lol. Cheers bud I do appreciate your advice and I'll look in to it. I agree the bigger muscles are the pull ones... But chest and shoulders are key for a good physique. If I could I'd do 2 x pull 2 x push and 1 x legs... Some weeks I may manage that but others I won't.
January 2, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Cheers bud I do appreciate your advice and I'll look in to it. I agree the bigger muscles are the pull ones... But chest and shoulders are key for a good physique. If I could I'd do 2 x pull 2 x push and 1 x legs... Some weeks I may manage that but others I won't. If you are set on the routine you mentioned let me make a suggestion that can help. On all days, do 3 or 4 or so sets of face pulls at the end of your weight training. Light weight, 12 to 15 reps. Also, in between benchpress sets do quick sets of light band pullaparts. This can help balance out the shoulder as far as internal and external rotation. I always keep light bands in my gym bag for stuff like this. Hope that made sense.
January 2, 20224 yr Just now, Boogyman said: If you are set on the routine you mentioned let me make a suggestion that can help. On all days, do 3 or 4 or so sets of face pulls at the end of your weight training. Light weight, 12 to 15 reps. Also, in between benchpress sets do quick sets of light band pullaparts. This can help balance out the shoulder as far as internal and external rotation. I always keep light bands in my gym bag for stuff like this. Hope that made sense. Thanks bud. I've just looked on Google and the general advice is to do twice as many pulls as pushes. So what I may do is increase the volume when I pull and also do supersets on push days where I include some pull work. Having a home gym will help me too as I'll have more opportunity to train.
January 2, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Thanks bud. I've just looked on Google and the general advice is to do twice as many pulls as pushes. So what I may do is increase the volume when I pull and also do supersets on push days where I include some pull work. Having a home gym will help me too as I'll have more opportunity to train. Yeah I've always worked like that. Also, if you think about it in terms of "real world" applications, those are the muscles you use more when doing day to day "work". I've always tried to train my body in similar ways that I actually use it.
January 2, 20224 yr Just now, Boogyman said: Yeah I've always worked like that. Also, if you think about it in terms of "real world" applications, those are the muscles you use more when doing day to day "work". I've always tried to train my body in similar ways that I actually use it. Yeah you're right. I train crossfit so it's all about those functional movements etc. It's partly why I've decided to change my training to this pull and push pattern.
January 4, 20224 yr I know there are several people in here that have Echelon's or similar equipment... I used a Nordictrack iFit-enabled treadmill at a friend's house recently and really enjoyed it. While I'm still deciding between a treadmill and a bike, I am pretty set on selling my wife's elliptical (with her blessing) and picking up a new compatible piece of equipment. I know there are several platforms that all seem to have similar price points for the bikes, but the subscription plans seem to vary in cost pretty substantially. Is anyone aware of a concise comparison of subscription services for the various equipment lines (Proform/Nordictrack, Echelon, Peleton are the ones I'm aware of)?
January 5, 20224 yr On 1/2/2022 at 6:16 PM, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Yeah you're right. I train crossfit so it's all about those functional movements etc. It's partly why I've decided to change my training to this pull and push pattern. Anything is really functional. What are you core exercises around push, pull, and legs. Probably best help is show your routine and help around that. As Boogyman said, I am a big fan of face pulls as well, but I don't train shoulders because they usually take over chest.
January 6, 20224 yr On 1/1/2022 at 11:43 AM, LacesOut said: I thought that the gym would be packed this morning with a bunch of New Year Resolution people. I was wrong. It was DEAD. Interesting. Did 15 sets for my back. 8 sets of abs. 10 minutes on the Elliptical, 30 on the Treadmill. A damn good workout, I must say! I am fortunate to be able to workout pretty much 7 days a week, if I want. We’re getting a slow start on the resolution, but we’re coming MFer!!!
January 7, 20224 yr 22 minutes ago, greend said: I can't get motivated after the holidays See I tend to find I'm the other way. I like the break from exercise and I enjoy the food and drink over Christmas but then I'm really ready to get back and hit it hard.
January 7, 20224 yr 26 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: See I tend to find I'm the other way. I like the break from exercise and I enjoy the food and drink over Christmas but then I'm really ready to get back and hit it hard. I'm old and lazy
January 7, 20224 yr 8 minutes ago, greend said: I'm old and lazy How old (if you don't mind me asking)? What type of training do you do?
January 7, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: How old (if you don't mind me asking)? What type of training do you do? Almost 60 (in march) In the winter I run/walk and lift (but no heavy weights anymore). In the summer I bike/run and don't lift as often as I should.
January 7, 20224 yr 15 minutes ago, greend said: Almost 60 (in march) In the winter I run/walk and lift (but no heavy weights anymore). In the summer I bike/run and don't lift as often as I should. Fair play to you for continuing to train. I hope when I'm approaching 60 I'm still training.
January 7, 20224 yr Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Fair play to you for continuing to train. I hope when I'm approaching 60 I'm still training. Cheers, I have no doubt you will be. I'm betting it's in your blood
January 7, 20224 yr 2 hours ago, greend said: Cheers, I have no doubt you will be. I'm betting it's in your blood Why do you think that?
January 8, 20224 yr 12 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Why do you think that? Just from what you just told me here. Plus when you start good habits when you are young you tend to stick with them when you get older.
January 8, 20224 yr 3 minutes ago, greend said: Just from what you just told me here. Plus when you start good habits when you are young you tend to stick with them when you get older. I hope you are right. I do enjoy and love exercise. That point where I'm tired and I'm hurting is a sweet feeling.
January 8, 20224 yr 20 hours ago, greend said: I can't get motivated after the holidays I was right there with you. Between holidays and busy work schedule the past 2 weeks, was slacking. Gotta get back in that saddle and get right back to it!
January 8, 20224 yr Nothing like an 800 calorie burn on a Saturday morning to start the weekend. Let’s go!!!
January 8, 20224 yr Did like a weird workout this morning...6 sets for chest, 6 for back, 6 for shoulders, some ab work, and then the treadmill for a 30 min walk.
January 8, 20224 yr 6 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said: I was right there with you. Between holidays and busy work schedule the past 2 weeks, was slacking. Gotta get back in that saddle and get right back to it! Monday I'll get off my lazy butt
January 8, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, LacesOut said: Did like a weird workout this morning...6 sets for chest, 6 for back, 6 for shoulders, some ab work, and then the treadmill for a 30 min walk. A push and pull session then. Good way to train.
January 8, 20224 yr The Holidays were great for me, pertaining to workouts. I was off of work from 12/15 to 1/3. So I was able to get to the gym pretty much every day during that time period. Went in around 9 am every day. Place was empty. Now though?? Ugh. I am back to work, so I can't get to the gym until evenings. Place is packed with wankers who have NO gym etiquette. And who have NO form when lifting. I hope they all hurt themselves and therefore never come back.
January 9, 20224 yr 10 hours ago, LacesOut said: Now though?? Ugh. I am back to work, so I can't get to the gym until evenings. Place is packed with wankers who have NO gym etiquette. And who have NO form when lifting. I hope they all hurt themselves and therefore never come back. Yeah I hate January. All these people who start New Years resolutions and it lasts a month or two at most. There should be an interim "prove it" gym. Go to that for 6 months, train properly, show gym etiquette and then you can be considered for a proper gym. It is the little kids that make me laugh. They come up to you asking if you're nearly done. I'll be done when I'm done mate. They then hang around until you are finished (rather than going to do something else) do one set and move on.
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