17 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

We are the source ESPN/NFLN rumors and conjecture.  I’m convinced.  Ish we say in here they pick up weeks/months later.  

Still can’t believe they didn’t run with the fitz at the airport rumor 

Nick Foles >>> Deshaun Watson 

22 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

We are the source ESPN/NFLN rumors and conjecture.  I’m convinced.  Ish we say in here they pick up weeks/months later.  

agree

although they legally couldn't use the words "with knowledge of the situation" with it being us...........................cause we don't know crap 

38 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Not that I think it would happen, but it would be pretty funny if the end story to all of this is just DeShaun saying "Nah". 

Before his legal troubles came to light my understanding was he would only waive his no-trade clause to go to MIA or the Jets; then shortly afterward he took the Jets off his list.

16 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

If watson didn’t have the off the field stuff i think he’d likely pick the broncos to go to. With everything else going on even if it’s resolved not sure his agent or he wants to play the i don’t want to go there card. Could be a really bad look on top of the other off the field stuff going on. I still think there’s a chance rodgers ultimately ends up on the Broncos at some point.

I agree with schefter, tannebaum and Peter king that the eagles draft asset wise make the most sense. They’d need to convince him but i don’t think that’s as far fetched today then before a lot this stuff came out. 

The Watson trade scenario stories to me are nothing but click bait.

Until or if his legal issues are cleared up talking about ideal trade partners is useless.

The dude could be in jail or suspended or even put on league leave until his legal issues are resolved 

I think some seem to think Philly would be a logical end point for Watson because the eagles took a chance on Vick.

Difference with Vick is vick was done with his legal process, he did his time wasn't looking at any more charges just rehabbing his image.

Watson is in the thick of it and until his legal mess is resolved no one is going to trade for him.

Trade talk at this point is nothing other than move along nothing to see here.

 

9 minutes ago, Utebird said:

The Watson trade scenario stories to me are nothing but click bait.

Until or if his legal issues are cleared up talking about ideal trade partners is useless.

The dude could be in jail or suspended or even put on league leave until his legal issues are resolved 

I think some seem to think Philly would be a logical end point for Watson because the eagles took a chance on Vick.

Difference with Vick is vick was done with his legal process, he did his time wasn't looking at any more charges just rehabbing his image.

Watson is in the thick of it and until his legal mess is resolved no one is going to trade for him.

Trade talk at this point is nothing other than move along nothing to see here.

 

Ok before the watson off the field stuff you had stories connecting the eagles to watson. Jeff mclane before watson got the off the field issues had a story saying league sources saying howie would give up everything to get him on March 18th. Watson’s stuff came out April 7th.

So it is nothing happening until it all resolves but let’s not pretend the eagles didn’t have any interested in watson prior to this. people just kept dismissing it before the off the field stuff cause they believed we didn’t have the assets then or ability to convince him to come here then. Now they have the assets and i think better position to convince him then back in March 

I don't know why some of the same folks who blast Howie at every turn for leaving the Eagles with no cap room simultaneously think Howie is about to send away our draft picks for a QB due to make $120M against the cap from 2022-2024.

3 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

 

 

 

WTF are you even talking about?  You're preaching to me that him having a 4.0 doesn't make you wise.  The other poster argued that he was surprised that he did this because he had a 4.0 at Stanford.  Which I argued, that it didn't matter.  Just because he was smart doesn't mean he wouldn't do something stupid or have a bad temper.  Your initial response to me (which I quoted) was basically the same thing I was telling the other poster Wentz11. It doesn't surprise me that he would do something like this.  I don't care if he was smart or had a 4.0 or nothing.   

 

Again.... WTF are you talking about?  

lol relax bud, I’m just busting your chops 

11 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I don't know why some of the same folks who blast Howie at every turn for leaving the Eagles with no cap room simultaneously think Howie is about to send away our draft picks for a QB due to make $120M against the cap from 2022-2024.

Yup eagles never would trade draft picks away for a position they covet and value especially if they believe the play is top 10 if not top 5 at their position...

his contract can be restructure. Let’s not pretend that’s not an option if he’s traded. That was an option that was going to occur if wentz didn’t bottom out. 

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yeah.  Is that what they call that?!?  

Welcome to the off-season 

18 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I don't know why some of the same folks who blast Howie at every turn for leaving the Eagles with no cap room simultaneously think Howie is about to send away our draft picks for a QB due to make $120M against the cap from 2022-2024.

 Sorry but it makes perfect sense that he would do that

Just now, Bacarty2 said:

If theres anything Howie is amazing at, it's kicking the can down the road... I mean  "restructuring". 

All i know is the one position the eagles would be willing to pay top dollar even if they were in a cap bind is quarterback. So if watson was cleared and his issues were resolved, you are telling me a 25 year old QB who’s already a pro bowler and top 10 QB and likely fringe top 5 for the next decade they’d wouldn’t figure out a way to fit him under the cap? Please if wentz played decent last year, wentz restructuring was going to happen to make room. 

45 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Nick Foles >>> Deshaun Watson 

That won’t get many likes around here but in terms of winning the Super Bowl, you’re spot on.

And on a side note, if the Eagles sign Watson and his 40+ mil a year contract in the middle of a "2 year rebuild” instead of giving Hurts and the younger guys at least 1 season to showcase themselves, I’ll be convinced that the Eagles FO have lost their minds.   Giving up the draft capital and resources (including salary cap room) needed to sign Watson would be a catastrophic mistake and something that could take years to "fix” if it doesn’t pan out, IMO. 

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Nice try.  Go sober up.  

Man, you’re grumpy today.  I’ll crack a cold one in your name when I get home from work. 

5 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Oh wait.  I was told don’t worry about the cap with Howie.  
 

I’m not telling you what I want.  I’m telling you what their intentions were.   And I have moved on from blaming Howie.  Because I know it’s not all just him.  This mess was caused by Lurie.  Howie is just a puppet/pawn.   That said, if they are able to get Watson as their QB over Hurts, it would be a major upgrade.   I’d rather we tank and draft one TBH.  When I say tank that means Lowie is broken up as well.  

I’d prefer the tank and draft method however it’s also unknown where you are going to be picking at the moment nor if there’s a QB there they would love either. 

also the eagles were going to be in cap hell even if wentz played wel last year. Restructuring his contract was a given if he played decent to good last year. That was coming to clear space. He just played so bad and relationship deteriorated there was no chance they could do that. 

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup eagles never would trade draft picks away for a position they covet and value especially if they believe the play is top 10 if not top 5 at their position...

his contract can be restructure. Let’s not pretend that’s not an option if he’s traded. That was an option that was going to occur if wentz didn’t bottom out. 

1.  Doesn't matter how many picks you have if you don't have cap room or the ability to clear it

2.  If his contract can be restructured then you don't have cap problems.  Let's not pretend Watson is gonna play for any less than $35M AAV

3.  The guy won 4 games last season.  He's won 1 playoff game in his career.  Was the Texans roster last season that much worse than where the Eagles are now?  How much does he move the needle -- because he wasn't moving it much in HOU.  If this "top 5 QB" is so coveted he should be able to work with what he's got.

4.  Why would Howie sell the farm for a guy who wanted to hand pick the GM in HOU?  

16 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

If watson didn’t have the off the field stuff i think he’d likely pick the broncos to go to. With everything else going on even if it’s resolved not sure his agent or he wants to play the i don’t want to go there card. Could be a really bad look on top of the other off the field stuff going on. I still think there’s a chance rodgers ultimately ends up on the Broncos at some point.

I agree with schefter, tannebaum and Peter king that the eagles draft asset wise make the most sense. They’d need to convince him but i don’t think that’s as far fetched today then before a lot this stuff came out. 

The Watson trade scenario stories to me are nothing but click bait.

Until or if his legal issues are cleared up talking about ideal trade partners is useless.

The dude could be in jail or suspended or even put on league leave until his legal issues are resolved 

I think some seem to think Philly would be a logical end point for Watson because the eagles took a chance on Vick.

Difference with Vick is vick was done with his legal process, he did his time wasn't looking at any more charges just rehabbing his image.

Watson is in the thick of it and until his legal mess is resolved no one is going to trade for him.

Trade talk at this point is nothing other than move along nothing to see here.

 

34 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Ok before the watson off the field stuff you had stories connecting the eagles to watson. Jeff mclane before watson got the off the field issues had a story saying league sources saying howie would give up everything to get him on March 18th. Watson’s stuff came out April 7th.

So it is nothing happening until it all resolves but let’s not pretend the eagles didn’t have any interested in watson prior to this. people just kept dismissing it before the off the field stuff cause they believed we didn’t have the assets then or ability to convince him to come here then. Now they have the assets and i think better position to convince him then back in March 

Yup, I'm not sayi g the eagles didn't or don't have interest, it's all just moot at this point until the legal issues are resolved 

Just now, Utebird said:

The Watson trade scenario stories to me are nothing but click bait.

Until or if his legal issues are cleared up talking about ideal trade partners is useless.

The dude could be in jail or suspended or even put on league leave until his legal issues are resolved 

I think some seem to think Philly would be a logical end point for Watson because the eagles took a chance on Vick.

Difference with Vick is vick was done with his legal process, he did his time wasn't looking at any more charges just rehabbing his image.

Watson is in the thick of it and until his legal mess is resolved no one is going to trade for him.

Trade talk at this point is nothing other than move along nothing to see here.

 

This.  And Vick didn’t cost the Eagles 40 million a year, plus a myriad of draft picks, etc.   Nothing about acquiring Watson makes an ounce of logical sense for this team, IMO. 

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

This.  And Vick didn’t cost the Eagles 40 million a year, plus a myriad of draft picks, etc.   Nothing about acquiring Watson makes an ounce of logical sense for this team, IMO. 

It would be an organization-wrecking decision IMO; people cry now when there isn't cap room to bring in a CB2 .....  

5 hours ago, SNOORDA said:

Bean burrito no onions. 2 taco supremes w/no sour cream.  That’s my go to when I feel like eating crap food

No onions?  That is the second one of you that said that.  Onions add savory flavor.  

I don't think it would be smart in their particular situation but it wouldn't shock me in the slightest if that was the decision Lowie went with.

19 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

1.  Doesn't matter how many picks you have if you don't have cap room or the ability to clear it

2.  If his contract can be restructured then you don't have cap problems.  Let's not pretend Watson is gonna play for any less than $35M AAV

3.  The guy won 4 games last season.  He's won 1 playoff game in his career.  Was the Texans roster last season that much worse than where the Eagles are now?  How much does he move the needle -- because he wasn't moving it much in HOU.  If this "top 5 QB" is so coveted he should be able to work with what he's got.

4.  Why would Howie sell the farm for a guy who wanted to hand pick the GM in HOU?  

1. Have to have the draft capital to even be in the game to acquire him. The texans even with his current issues aren’t giving him away for nothing. So the eagles have that and haven’t been afraid to deal picks to get guys they believe are top tier talent. Jason peters and slay come to mind. And they’ve never been shy to give up picks if it meant premium talent. Some others where they’ve dealt away capital to get players they believed were top players at their positions.  

2. they can create the cap space to do it in a restructure. Let’s not pretend it’s omg impossible for them to do that. They can figure ways out. They tend to do that with players they really want. Not only that in a trade this year (2021) his cap is actually just 10.54 mil (according to Joel corry— from this article https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article248056035.html) So you point of 35avv makes no difference as this 2021 season thats his cap number via trade. again you’d restructure his deal after the season assuming he was cleared which they were fully prepared to do if wentz didn’t bottom out in 2020. That was coming cause they value the QB position. Hence they paid Bradford big money and Daniel who was a bum of backup to a nice contract and then went to go get wentz  

3. yes it’s Watson’s fault the Texans were bottom 5 or 10 in the league against the run, turnovers and ppg allowed. bottom 7 against the pass. Clearly the Texans problems were just watson as to why they won just 4 games. Meanwhile watson put up numbers better than wentz’s near mvp season. I would suggest looking at the dysfunction of the Texans and their god awful defense for the 4 wins. you know 30th in yards allowed, 32nd against the run, 24th against the pass, 31st in QBR allowed, 29th in the league on 3rd down defense, 27th in ppg allowed and 32nd in takeaways with just 9. Maybe just maybe that defense being arguably the worst in the league besides Dallas could be the issue 

4. Why did Jeff mclane, schefter, king and multiple others keep alluding to the eagles being in on watson even before the off the field issues came out? Idk maybe cause he’s a top 10 QB who’s 25 years old and those type of QBs don’t become available very often in the peak of their primes  

 

7 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

No onions?  That is the second one of you that said that.  Onions add savory flavor.  

yeah onions are great , just had 2 checker dogs with raw onions , heavy mustard and chili with a large sweet tea and apple pie. LOL