37 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

I think it was Mario Lemiuex who said when he was on the ice, it was like everybody else was in slow motion and he found the game easy. How the hell do you coach that? 

You don't.   Same reason Ted Williams was not a good hitting instructor.  He could just see things that others couldn't. 

23 minutes ago, rambo said:

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/colts-insider/2021/01/21/colts-offensive-coordinator-nick-sirianni-new-eagles-head-coach-report/6659143002/

Good article.  Not going to post it because it's pretty long, but recommend giving it a read.

I think one of the things that attracted them to Siri was his experience teaching position players, even if he doesn't have time for a lot of hands on coaching, he should be able to identify assistants who can coach up, and replace the ones that aren't good at it.

If you're rebuilding, that's more important than some uber-offensive mind.

12 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

Interesting note: 

The Eagles have not officially announced Sirianni yet. Been like a full day. 

I actually think its a good thing, maybe the dudes not a pushover and ready to just sign on the dotted line no matter what.  I hope they are having serious discussions about authority and chain of command before making this official

19 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

Interesting note: 

The Eagles have not officially announced Sirianni yet. Been like a full day. 

Maybe he is talking strategy with Josh McDaniels /s

 

19 minutes ago, greend said:

So much easier to root for a guy like him to break the babe's record than it is for theses steroid freaks of today

To me, it was never really even about a broken record. 

Babe Ruth was just so far and away better than everyone else in his era, that he stands alone in that era as the greatest of that time. (GOTT, if you will).

Similarly, Aaron's numbers for HRs so far exceeded the next in line from his era, that he is equally in a class by himself... and the GOTT.  

Meanwhile, the likes of Bonds, Sosa, McGuire... they don't get a label other than 'Cheater in their time'.  (CITT). 

 

The idea that we can stack eras together and find a 'Greatest of ALL Time' is just the wrong way to look at it.  I wish I had gotten to see the Greatest of Each Generation... but no one can really compare the generations to one another.  Just vastly different eras, different rules, different equipment, different training...  But, in his era - Ruth stands alone.   In his era, Aaron stands alone as well.   (Speaking of HR kings, not overall players.  Willie Mays slightly tops Aaron as an all-around player, but its very close.) 

1 minute ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

Maybe he is talking strategy with Josh McDaniels /s

 

Damn! missed my opportunity to write it this way:

 

"Noticed the Eagles have not made official announcement in hiring Nick Siriannis"

 

 

 

 

Probably as most people stated just contract negotiations. 

 

Indy has already named a new offensive coordinator so that should be a sign it's done. 

If they don't go QB in the draft then the smartest move going forward to go defense with the #6 pick. 

 

Seems like everyone is love drunk over a WR but this team isn't a WR away from competing.  We have some young talent at WR that can be developed while we rebuild.  What we don't have on defense though are any young cornerstone players to build around. 

54 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

But they are doing it wrong... you can't force it to happen.  You can't incentivize it.  But, you can take a long hard look at the cause and try to fix that.   

 

I don't think they are forcing it to happen.  The NFL is only requiring teams to provide opportunities to interview.  The media is asking questions about why notable black OC's are not getting opportunities.  People are complaining about the lack of hires but no one has forced any team to do anything.  

37 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Brandon Lee Gowton and Bleedinggreennation are a cesspool of poorly written negativity.   Brutal over there.  Stopped going there last week.  My word of the day: insufferable. 

BLG is very anti-Wentz right now so the fact that they hired Siri to help fix Wentz means he'll spin his negativity into it.

7 minutes ago, tuffstuff07 said:

Probably as most people stated just contract negotiations. 

 

Indy has already named a new offensive coordinator so that should be a sign it's done. 

I wonder if it is related to naming assistants.  

5 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

If they don't go QB in the draft then the smartest move going forward to go defense with the #6 pick. 

 

Seems like everyone is love drunk over a WR but this team isn't a WR away from competing.  We have some young talent at WR that can be developed while we rebuild.  What we don't have on defense though are any young cornerstone players to build around. 

If the first pick is to be on D, I'd like them to trade back a little first.

32 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

Interesting note: 

The Eagles have not officially announced Sirianni yet. Been like a full day. 

When the eagles hired Pederson, did they introduce the entire coaching staff at the same time or am I remembering that wrong?

Someone edited Mike McCoy's wiki page. Apparently he's our new QB coach

11 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

If they don't go QB in the draft then the smartest move going forward to go defense with the #6 pick. 

 

Seems like everyone is love drunk over a WR but this team isn't a WR away from competing.  We have some young talent at WR that can be developed while we rebuild.  What we don't have on defense though are any young cornerstone players to build around. 

The NFL is about offense. Look at who made the playoffs.

How many great offenses do you see vs great defenses?

I swear if Devonta Smith is there and we dont pick him Ill ish a brick. Its a no brainer pick

4 minutes ago, The Holy Vagabond said:

When the eagles hired Pederson, did they introduce the entire coaching staff at the same time or am I remembering that wrong?

Schwartz was at the PC. I don't think he named his full staff though.

With Sirianni they probably made the phone call yesterday and started negotiating. Even if its agreed I expect they wait till Monday to all meet together, sign and have a PC.

6 minutes ago, The Holy Vagabond said:

When the eagles hired Pederson, did they introduce the entire coaching staff at the same time or am I remembering that wrong?

Schwartz was hired before Doug in what was some epic foreshadowing

13 hours ago, 315Eagles said:

Us whites just want a fair shot at playing CB.

It's total BS they aren't giving us a fair shot.

 

4 minutes ago, The Holy Vagabond said:

When the eagles hired Pederson, did they introduce the entire coaching staff at the same time or am I remembering that wrong?

I think Doug was announced on a Tuesday and his coaches were announced the next day. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/14613426/philadelphia-eagles-announce-15-coaches-doug-pederson-staff 

1 minute ago, Couch Potato said:

If the first pick is to be on D, I'd like them to trade back a little first.

As always, all depends on how the board falls at 1-5.  If the top 5 are Lawrence, Sewell, Smith, Parsons, and Chase — then Howie will have teams calling to jump up and grab the next QB (Wilson or Fields).  If, however, 3 QB get drafted in the top 5, I doubt there will be a trade partner.

To me, the best scenario for rebuilding would be to trade back from #6 to #12 and get a 2nd round pick plus a 2022 1st, and trade Hurts for a 2nd round pick.  Then you have the #12 overall pick, three 2nd round picks, and two 1st round picks in 2022

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

The NFL is about offense. Look at who made the playoffs.

How many great offenses do you see vs great defenses?

I swear if Devonta Smith is there and we dont pick him Ill ish a brick. Its a no brainer pick

It's not about having a great defense it's about not having a terrible defense. 

Devonta Smith doesn't turn us into a great offense either. 

Who are our cornerstone players on defense? Cox and Graham both drafted around a decade ago and both now in their 30s.

This team desperately needs some some young cornerstone players on defense to build around on that side of the ball so at the very least we have a competent defense going forward.  

42 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Well this team won a Super Bowl without repeated top 10 picks.  I mean they had one top ten pick in 2012 and another in 2016.  The Chiefs won last season without repeated top 10 picks because they had a franchise QB.  The team can develop sufficient talent for long-term success without repeated top 10 picks.  There is no real tanking to win long-term strategy needed for football.  It's a team sport and besides the QB one player doesn't make or break a roster.  Additionally, there is a definite dynamic to a losing culture that is hard to overcome.   I mean the current franchise in Cleveland is essentially making the playoffs for the first time.  They have had probably more top 10 picks than any other franchise over the last 20 seasons.  It's not a good thing for long-term success.  

It's a combination of drafting, waiver wire guys, FAs, etc.

KC:  Fisher #1-2013, Kelce #63-2013, Jones #37-2016, Mahomes #10-2017, Kpassagon #59-2017, Nnadi #75-2018, Thornhill #63-2019, Hardman #56-2019, Saunders #84-2019, were the only high draft picks on the 2019 Chiefs

McCoy (1yr/$4M), D Williams (UDFA), Hill (5th rd), D Robinson #126-2016, Watkins 3yr/$48M in 2018 at 25, Bell TE (SFA), Erving LT (T, 5th rd pick), Wylie (UDFA), Reiter (SFA), Duvernay-Tardiff (6th rd), Schwartz (FA-2016)

Okafor (SFA), Ogbah (T for DB Murray), Clark 5yr/$105M in 2018 at 26, Hitchens 5yr/$45M in 2018 at 26, Wilson (SFA), Niemann (UDFA), Lee (T 6th rd), Ragland (T, 4th rd), Breeland 1yr/$5M, Ward (UDFA), Sorensen (UDFA), Mathieu 3yr/$42M in 2019 at 27, Fuller (w/ 3rd for Smith).

This team wasn't build through the draft, a combination of late picks and UDFAs and 4 key FAs, Watkins, Clark, Hitchens and Mathieu, all between 25-27 years old the first year of their new contract. A number of low cost trades.

Now this is probably a bit of an outlier, but it shows you that you only need a couple good drafts, a couple low level trades and find your share of waiver wire gems and UDFAs and late round picks. You don't need a star at every position, maybe a half dozen at most scattered through your roster.

Nor do you need a "franchise QB", Eagles in 2017, Broncos in 2015 (39 year old Peyton), Ravens in 2012 (Flacco), Giants in 2011 (Eli).

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

It's not about having a great defense it's about not having a terrible defense. 

Devonta Smith doesn't turn us into a great offense either. 

Who are our cornerstone players on defense? Cox and Graham both drafted around a decade ago and both now in their 30s.

This team desperately needs some some young cornerstone players on defense to build around on that side of the ball so at the very least we have a competent defense going forward.  

All of your points can be made about the offense as well .....

24 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

To me, it was never really even about a broken record. 

Babe Ruth was just so far and away better than everyone else in his era, that he stands alone in that era as the greatest of that time. (GOTT, if you will).

Similarly, Aaron's numbers for HRs so far exceeded the next in line from his era, that he is equally in a class by himself... and the GOTT.  

Meanwhile, the likes of Bonds, Sosa, McGuire... they don't get a label other than 'Cheater in their time'.  (CITT). 

 

The idea that we can stack eras together and find a 'Greatest of ALL Time' is just the wrong way to look at it.  I wish I had gotten to see the Greatest of Each Generation... but no one can really compare the generations to one another.  Just vastly different eras, different rules, different equipment, different training...  But, in his era - Ruth stands alone.   In his era, Aaron stands alone as well.   (Speaking of HR kings, not overall players.  Willie Mays slightly tops Aaron as an all-around player, but its very close.) 

Babe Ruth was stastically unique in his domination over his peers.  His peers were also limited, **** Leagues not assimilated into the majors, no Latin American invasion yet.  Pros trained about as hard back then as elite HS teams now.  Still, he's a uniquely dominant pro athlete in the history of sport.  

It's a lot easier to say that Hank Aaron would be a stud today. 

 

edit: in case that needed clarifying, I obviously didn't type a slur.  Apparently message board filters still don't like the collective term for the baseball league.

6 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I don't think they are forcing it to happen.  The NFL is only requiring teams to provide opportunities to interview.  The media is asking questions about why notable black OC's are not getting opportunities.  People are complaining about the lack of hires but no one has forced any team to do anything.  

They aren't forcing it to happen yet.   They are forcing the way the interview process goes.  They are changing the rules regarding the incentives to make it happen.  They are doing everything they can to force it to happen, without overtly forcing the hands of individual teams.   It started as one interview, as the Rooney Rule.  Now its 2.  When will it be that they have to interview 50% 'minority' (although, they only seem interested in one particular minority demographic)?  When will they limit the number of 'white' candidates a team is allowed to interview (that would be the reverse of the Rooney Rule... the Yenoor Rule, if you will)?   

 

The issue is that the 'black' coaches aren't really involved with coaching the QB position right now.  I believe when that changes, then the HC positions will start to follow.   But, if you look around the league, a lot of the coaches are either from the defensive side of the ball... or QB background driven offensive coaches.

Look back a bit... Ray Rhodes, Tony Dungy, Marvin Lewis, Lovie Smith, Mike Singletary, etc. ... all defensive guys.  Even more recently... Ron Rivera, Robert Salah, Todd Bowles, Mike Tomlin... all minority defensive coaches.  Who are the offensive minority head coaches?  Anthony Lynn and Tom Flores...