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8 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Kelce and Graham may retire after this season. Not sure what it would do to the cap. Hopefully Lane and Brooks stay healthy otherwise that will be horrible to deal with

Here is Kelce and Graham for 2022.  Cap numbers do not change if they retire, Eagles are still on the hook.  

13.5 and 12.2 in dead money if they retire.

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2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Here is Kelce and Graham for 2022.  Cap numbers do not change if they retire, Eagles are still on the hook.  

13.5 and 12.2 in dead money if they retire.

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Yup we've still got a cap time bomb coming in a couple of years for players who are way too old to restructure or extend, it's a fundamental problem and Howie has done basically nothing to resolve it. We'll end up using the Wentz cap space to clean out the deadwood of the 2017 roster in '22 and '23

3 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Yup we've still got a cap time bomb coming in a couple of years for players who are way too old to restructure or extend, it's a fundamental problem and Howie has done basically nothing to resolve it. We'll end up using the Wentz cap space to clean out the deadwood of the 2017 roster in '22 and '23

Not gonna happen in 2022.  Howie has already brought the 2022 cap space down to 43 million.  There is only 39 players under contract.

57 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I thought there'd be more cuts than restructures

Seems like Howie does not want to rip the Band-Aid off

Nothing Howie does makes any sense. Does he think they can compete this year or next or is this a rebuild? It’s obvious to everyone here that this should be a rebuild. He’s trying to play both sides of the fence. He should’ve traded Slay, Brooks,  Ertz, Graham, & Kelce for whatever he could get. Instead, he’s playing around with their cap numbers and prolonging this into next year. None of those guys are part of the future. Get some picks for them and a nice high pick next year. Then you can add some good, young talent through free agency next year. 

3 minutes ago, Road to Victory said:

Get some picks for them and a nice high pick next year. Then you can add some good, young talent through free agency next year. 

Problem with that plan is Howie is still making the picks and signing the FA's, the main reason we are in this mess in the first place.

19 hours ago, downundermike said:

Not gonna happen in 2022.  Howie has already brought the 2022 cap space down to 43 million.  There is only 39 players under contract.

So even if Wentz was any good this past season and kept him they still would be doing what they are doing now?? And for 2022?

37 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

So even if Wentz was any good this past season and kept him they still would be doing what they are doing now?? And for 2022?

Paco started talking about this early part of last season, before we even knew we were trading Wentz, Howie has been dummy yearing contracts for years to get under the cap and he was always going to run out of road in the next couple of years regardless of whether the cap carried on going up, because eventually you're restructuring players who are either too old or no longer good enough to contribute and you have to take the cap hits you've built up by endlessly moving money back and restructuring with dummy years.

TBH I wonder if part of the relationship breakdown with Wentz may be that he was asked to restructure his big money extension almost immediately it kicked in, and then Howie drafted Hurts on top.

30 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

TBH I wonder if part of the relationship breakdown with Wentz may be that he was asked to restructure his big money extension almost immediately it kicked in, and then Howie drafted Hurts on top.

This definitely does raise some new questions. Wentz sucked last year but, I think he stopped giving a sheet about this organization and can't really say I blame him. It's a real sheet show. 

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I understand the frustration over "kicking the can down the road" further, but we have little choice right now in order to become cap compliant by next Wednesday.  And it isn't as though Howie is the only one using this strategy ... I've been seeing a lot of teams doing the same (NO with Jenkins, Peat, Jordan, and Davis, Carolina with McCaffrey and Thompson, Dallas with Martin, Smith, and Collins, etc.). 

 

Javon Hargrave restructured

 

No details yet, but here is what it looked like prior to the restructure:

From OTC

Year Age Base Salary Prorated Bonus Workout Bonus   Guaranteed Salary   Cap
Number
Cap %  
Dead Money & Cap Savings
Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension 
Total   $26,500,000 $12,250,000 $250,000   $13,750,000   $39,000,000    
2020 27 $1,000,000 $2,450,000 $0   $1,000,000   $3,450,000 1.6%      
2021 28 $12,750,000 $2,450,000 $0   $12,750,000   $15,200,000 7.3%  
$22,550,000
($7,350,000)
2022 29 $12,750,000 $2,450,000 $250,000   $0   $15,450,000 7.6%  
$7,350,000
$8,100,000
2023 📝 30 Void $2,450,000 Void   Void   $4,900,000 2.2%  
$4,900,000
$0
2024 31 Void $2,450,000 Void   Void   $0 0.0%  
$2,450,000
($2,450,000)

From Sportrac

YEAR   AGE BASE SALARY SIGNING WORKOUT CAP HIT DEAD CAP YEARLY CASH  
2020 Contract details by year 27 $1,000,000 $2,450,000 - $3,450,000 $26,000,000 $13,250,000($13,250,000)  
2021 Contract details by year 28 $12,750,000 $2,450,000 - $15,200,000 $22,550,000 $12,750,000($26,000,000)  

POTENTIAL OUT: 2022, 2 YR, $26,000,000; $7,350,000 DEAD CAP

2022 Contract details by year 29 $12,750,000 $2,450,000 $250,000 $15,450,000 $7,350,000 $13,000,000($39,000,000)  
2023 Contract details by year 30 - $2,450,000 - $2,450,000 $4,900,000 -  
2024 Contract details by year 31 - $2,450,000 - $2,450,000 - -  
2023 Free Agent Year 32 UFA

 

 

So going into this, he already had a 5 million dollar dead cap hit after his contract ran out.  Can't wait to see what this looks like now <_<

Update:  Sounds like it will save 9.4 million on this years cap

 Looks like the sites have been updated

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36 minutes ago, paco said:

 

From OTC

Year Age Base Salary Prorated Bonus Workout Bonus   Guaranteed Salary   Cap
Number
Cap %  
Dead Money & Cap Savings
Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension 
Total   $26,500,000 $12,250,000 $250,000   $13,750,000   $39,000,000    
2020 27 $1,000,000 $2,450,000 $0   $1,000,000   $3,450,000 1.6%      
2021 28 $12,750,000 $2,450,000 $0   $12,750,000   $15,200,000 7.3%  
$22,550,000
($7,350,000)
2022 29 $12,750,000 $2,450,000 $250,000   $0   $15,450,000 7.6%  
$7,350,000
$8,100,000
2023 📝 30 Void $2,450,000 Void   Void   $4,900,000 2.2%  
$4,900,000
$0
2024 31 Void $2,450,000 Void   Void   $0 0.0%  
$2,450,000
($2,450,000)

<_<

 

Now

Year Age Base Salary Prorated Bonus Workout Bonus   Guaranteed Salary   Cap
Number
Cap %  
Dead Money & Cap Savings
Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension 
Total   $14,740,000 $24,010,000 $250,000   $1,990,000   $39,000,000    
2020 27 $1,000,000 $2,450,000 $0   $1,000,000   $3,450,000 1.6%      
2021 28 $990,000 $4,802,000 $0   $990,000   $5,792,000 2.8%  
$22,550,000
($16,758,000)
2022 29 $12,750,000 $4,802,000 $250,000   $0   $17,802,000 8.8%  
$16,758,000
$1,044,000
2023 📝 30 Void $4,802,000 Void   Void   $11,956,000 5.3%  
$11,956,000
$0
2024 31 Void $4,802,000 Void   Void   $0 0.0%  
$7,154,000
($7,154,000)
2025 32 Void $2,352,000 Void   Void   $0 --  
$2,352,000
($2,352,000)

 

 

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36 minutes ago, paco said:

From Sportrac

YEAR   AGE BASE SALARY SIGNING WORKOUT CAP HIT DEAD CAP YEARLY CASH  
2020 Contract details by year 27 $1,000,000 $2,450,000 - $3,450,000 $26,000,000 $13,250,000($13,250,000)  
2021 Contract details by year 28 $12,750,000 $2,450,000 - $15,200,000 $22,550,000 $12,750,000($26,000,000)  

POTENTIAL OUT: 2022, 2 YR, $26,000,000; $7,350,000 DEAD CAP

2022 Contract details by year 29 $12,750,000 $2,450,000 $250,000 $15,450,000 $7,350,000 $13,000,000($39,000,000)  
2023 Contract details by year 30 - $2,450,000 - $2,450,000 $4,900,000 -  
2024 Contract details by year 31 - $2,450,000 - $2,450,000 - -  
2023 Free Agent Year 32 UFA

 

 

 

Now

YEAR   AGE BASE SALARY SIGNING WORKOUT RESTRUCTURE CAP HIT DEAD CAP YEARLY CASH  
2020 Contract details by year 27 $1,000,000 $2,450,000 - - $3,450,000 $26,000,000 $13,250,000($13,250,000)  
2021 Contract details by year 28 $990,000 $2,450,000 - $2,352,000 $5,792,000 $22,550,000 $12,750,000($26,000,000)  

POTENTIAL OUT: 2022, 2 YR, $26,000,000; $7,350,000 DEAD CAP

2022 Contract details by year 29 $12,750,000 $2,450,000 $250,000 $2,352,000 $17,802,000 $16,758,000 $13,000,000($39,000,000)  
2023 Contract details by year 30 - $2,450,000 - $2,352,000 $4,802,000 $11,956,000 -  
2024 Contract details by year 31 - $2,450,000 - $2,352,000 $4,802,000 $7,154,000 -  
2025 Contract details by year 32 - - - $2,352,000 $2,352,000 $2,352,000 -  
2023 Free Agent Year 33 UFA

 

 

 

TL;DR: His 2023 dead cap hit goes from 4.9 million to 11.956 million. Eagles were 25,433,418 over, they are now 16,025,418 over.

1 hour ago, time2rock said:

I understand the frustration over "kicking the can down the road" further, but we have little choice right now in order to become cap compliant by next Wednesday.  And it isn't as though Howie is the only one using this strategy ... I've been seeing a lot of teams doing the same (NO with Jenkins, Peat, Jordan, and Davis, Carolina with McCaffrey and Thompson, Dallas with Martin, Smith, and Collins, etc.). 

 

The difference with what we're doing and what the Saints are doing, Andrus Peat is 27 and coming off 3 consecutive pro bowls, Davis is 32 but made 2nd team all pro last year and 1st team the year prior and Jordan is 31 and has made pro bowl and 1st or 2nd team all pro 3 of the last 4 years, and they'll extend the 2 fifth year option 1st rounders they have Ramczyk who's been 1st or 2nd team all pro the last 3 years and Lattimore who made multiple pro bowls. They're extending and restructuring pro bowl level young guys to keep a roster stocked with prime pieces. Howie is restructuring the old band again because they kicked cap hits into the future so often they can't afford to cut or trade guys this year and get under the cap. 

2020 was the first year since 2014 the Saints haven't had at least one of their draft picks make the PFWA all rookie team, since 2014 They've had 11 draft picks make that years All Rookie Team, the Eagles have had 4 and 2 of those were for special teams in 2014.

The Saints are how I wish we were run, getting to the play offs in 2020 with the new blood brought in over the last five years proving they could cover for Drew Brees waning arm, instead we're stretching out the pain of tearing down a roster of great guys who are still having to do it all because we've drafted no better than OK for the best part of a decade.

 

Impact on the cap after Hargrave update.

With guarantees given to restructure for this year, Howie has decreased the 2022-2023 cap 66.5 million to shave 25.7 million this year.

Some of that will come back after the June1 cuts process, but you can see how this mismanagement is not going to go away soon.

Still do not have the numbers on Seumalo, Kelce and Hargrave for 2025, but we have 22.2 million tied to Johnson and Slay for 2025.  Slay is a dummy year to spread cap hits, and it will be the same with Seumalo, Kelce and Hargrave.  Could approach 40 million in cap space allocated to 35 year old Lane Johnson and 4 dummy contracts.

  2021 ( 67 ) 2022 ( 39 ) 2023 ( 24 ) 2024 ( 11 ) ( 12 ) 2025 ( 1 ) ( 5 )
Start - 03-04 $43,187,668.00 $73,325,877.00 $136,813,917.00 $207,502,060.00  
Slay update - 03-05 $34,297,668.00 $71,140,877.00 $134,528,917.00 $202,932,060.00 $230,456,000.00
Kelce update - 03-10 $29,272,668.00 $43,455,877.00 $112,373,917.00 $204,332,060.00 $233,706,000.00
Seumalo update - 03-10 $26,873,468.00 $43,365,877.00 $109,631,917.00 $204,948,060.00 tbd after Seumalo
Hargrave update - 03-11 $17,465,468.00 $41,013,877.00 $102,575,917.00 $204,948,060.00 tbd after Hargrave
           
Difference $25,722,200.00 $32,312,000.00 $34,238,000.00    
           
  Total impact 2022-23 $66,550,000.00      
2 hours ago, time2rock said:

I understand the frustration over "kicking the can down the road" further, but we have little choice right now in order to become cap compliant by next Wednesday.  And it isn't as though Howie is the only one using this strategy ... I've been seeing a lot of teams doing the same (NO with Jenkins, Peat, Jordan, and Davis, Carolina with McCaffrey and Thompson, Dallas with Martin, Smith, and Collins, etc.). 

 

What a train wreck though. By the time Howie’s done with hacksawing the team up, they will have very little talent and very little cap room. 

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42 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

The difference with what we're doing and what the Saints are doing, Andrus Peat is 27 and coming off 3 consecutive pro bowls, Davis is 32 but made 2nd team all pro last year and 1st team the year prior and Jordan is 31 and has made pro bowl and 1st or 2nd team all pro 3 of the last 4 years, and they'll extend the 2 fifth year option 1st rounders they have Ramczyk who's been 1st or 2nd team all pro the last 3 years and Lattimore who made multiple pro bowls. They're extending and restructuring pro bowl level young guys to keep a roster stocked with prime pieces. Howie is restructuring the old band again because they kicked cap hits into the future so often they can't afford to cut or trade guys this year and get under the cap. 

2020 was the first year since 2014 the Saints haven't had at least one of their draft picks make the PFWA all rookie team, since 2014 They've had 11 draft picks make that years All Rookie Team, the Eagles have had 4 and 2 of those were for special teams in 2014.

The Saints are how I wish we were run, getting to the play offs in 2020 with the new blood brought in over the last five years proving they could cover for Drew Brees waning arm, instead we're stretching out the pain of tearing down a roster of great guys who are still having to do it all because we've drafted no better than OK for the best part of a decade.

 

Yeah I realize some of those teams are employing the same strategy but with younger players that will likely be around longer than some of those we are doing this with (the point of the post was merely to show other teams are also playing the "kick the can down the road" game).  

Personally I would have preferred to just cut bait with some of our overpriced, aging players that are on the decline and roll with the younger players - that strategy likely would have freed up a similar amount of cap space in 2021 but would not have added so much dead money in future years.  Plus then you wipe clean some fairly significant salaries from future years' caps - just for example, roughly $40M over the next 3 years had we cut/traded Brooks.  I think it is a dumb strategy trying to focus on a rebuild while simultaneously trying to maintain somewhat of a focus on competing now too.  

10 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Paco started talking about this early part of last season, before we even knew we were trading Wentz, Howie has been dummy yearing contracts for years to get under the cap and he was always going to run out of road in the next couple of years regardless of whether the cap carried on going up, because eventually you're restructuring players who are either too old or no longer good enough to contribute and you have to take the cap hits you've built up by endlessly moving money back and restructuring with dummy years.

TBH I wonder if part of the relationship breakdown with Wentz may be that he was asked to restructure his big money extension almost immediately it kicked in, and then Howie drafted Hurts on top.

It seems to me that last April,  when the NBA and all the rest shut down,  Howie might have thought "this could effect the NFL season, no fans = lower profits, lower profits = lower cap"  If Wentz's salary was only borderline feasible in February going forward,  by April,  Howie could have determined that the cap was most likely going to go down, and Wentz just couldn't get paid that much money.  Hurts was drafted to replace Wentz because the cap room just wasn't there to keep him. 

16 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

It seems to me that last April,  when the NBA and all the rest shut down,  Howie might have thought "this could effect the NFL season, no fans = lower profits, lower profits = lower cap"  If Wentz's salary was only borderline feasible in February going forward,  by April,  Howie could have determined that the cap was most likely going to go down, and Wentz just couldn't get paid that much money.  Hurts was drafted to replace Wentz because the cap room just wasn't there to keep him. 

That argument holds no weight.  They paid him last year, and are on the hook for 34 million in dead cap this year. That 34 million dead cap hit is money they already paid him in the form of a signing bonus.  They saved zero in actual dollars, or cap dollars in 2020 or 2021.

6 minutes ago, downundermike said:

That argument holds no weight.  They paid him last year, and are on the hook for 34 million in dead cap this year. That 34 million dead cap hit is money they already paid him in the form of a signing bonus.  They saved zero in actual dollars, or cap dollars in 2020 or 2021.

They saved $100 Million of real spending money which would go on the cap.

It will be much easier to deal with the ramifications of pushing bonuses into future years when you don't have to worry about Wentz's cap hit ever again after this year.

That $35 Million dead cap hit is the bonuses.  And then you see, like with Hargraves,  the Eagles are only paying him the minimum salary,  the rest of his money was changed to bonus, and the cap hit goes on to future years.  If the Eagles had to pay Wentz $100 Million over that period it would've caused real problems.

The Eagles aren't spending new money when they're restructuring these contracts,  they're simply moving the cap figure to the future,  which is totally (mostly) fine, because no more Wentz to pay in the future. 

24 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

They saved $100 Million of real spending money which would go on the cap.

It will be much easier to deal with the ramifications of pushing bonuses into future years when you don't have to worry about Wentz's cap hit ever again after this year.

That $35 Million dead cap hit is the bonuses.  And then you see, like with Hargraves,  the Eagles are only paying him the minimum salary,  the rest of his money was changed to bonus, and the cap hit goes on to future years.  If the Eagles had to pay Wentz $100 Million over that period it would've caused real problems.

The Eagles aren't spending new money when they're restructuring these contracts,  they're simply moving the cap figure to the future,  which is totally (mostly) fine, because no more Wentz to pay in the future. 

And the kicking the can down the road problem will continue to haunt us, because by the time it is coming off the cap, you have to pay Hurts if he turns out to be the guy, so the cap is always going to be strapped if Howie continues this method.  Either way, with or without Wentz, Howie is still in the same boat this offseason kicking the can.

50 minutes ago, downundermike said:

And the kicking the can down the road problem will continue to haunt us, because by the time it is coming off the cap, you have to pay Hurts if he turns out to be the guy, so the cap is always going to be strapped if Howie continues this method.  Either way, with or without Wentz, Howie is still in the same boat this offseason kicking the can.

eh maybe.    Howie failed to predict the response of the government to the worst cold ever.  I guess that he should have known that a lot of people would get a cold or flu type virus, very similar to the other cold or flu type viruses that kill people in nursing homes every year,  but this time, the government would wreck the economy, and not allow football fans to see their team play, and that would cause the cap to fall,  pushing the Eagles way over the cap, so much so that they wouldn't be able to get under the covid cap without getting rid of Wentz.

You're saying kicking the can down the road.  And it seems like that's what has been agreed on as terminology.  And yeah, it's that.   But what it also is is simply keeping the high priced players who are also good, very good, or still great.   You, and some others want to get rid of good players to fix the short term cap problem,  but I don't see why simply keeping those good to great players isn't also a good plan.    The Eagles aren't spending more money by restructuring, by and large.   The right side of the Eagles oline including Center has been good for a long time, and it should continue to be so.  The players are highly paid, but they're good.   The Eagles would have to use high draft picks to replace them, and if you're drafting a C, RG or RT with a 1st or 2nd round pick, you're not using that pick on a player at a position of greater need.    So, when you look at all the various costs, and the bind they were put in because government going nuts,  they're in pretty ok shape all things considered.  

Another point you're making is this "you have to pay Hurts if he turns out to be the guy".    No you don't have to do that.  Now, it happens to be true that 100% of the time that's what happens.  But you could go in there with the idea that paying "the guy" $30+M a year is something that you don't want and it's something that you want to avoid.   If you just saw what the negative consequences are of overpaying a QB, you'd want to avoid that.

I've been typing "run first offense with running QBs"  quite a lot here in the short period of time I've been here on this particular message board, and I've typed it on the message boards of other teams for years now.   You want the run first offense because it's not reliant on some really great passer who has to get $30+M a year.  You can have, at the QB spot,  any number of different QBs.  You want to build a system that allows QBs to be freely interchanged.   As long as the QB has adequate passing skills,  maybe even as low as low mediocre,  but is a great runner,  you can get wins that way.  The offense runs a lot,  the QB runs a lot.  You are paying close attention to who the fast QBs are, and when a QB is fast, or is otherwise a great runner, you get him,  unless he's one of the really high first round draft picks.   Your roster has multiple running QBs who are great at running and adequate at passing.   Right now, as I type this, the Eagles have 1 "QB" on the roster,  and a total of 4 former college running QBs who I'd like to see play QB in the NFL.  And if not "play QB",  then perform functions like throwing the ball that QBs typically do.   Ward, Tate, Jackson -  they all could play QB for the Eagles, not saying they will, but they could.  And if you're doing what you can to get them on the field, throwing  passes from the slot back position perhaps,  line up in the slot, go in motion, then end up with the ball and run or throw, you have a slot guy who acts a lot like a QB.
 
I listed a number of QBs who are available and can run well, or run with power, or do some running well enough to help the team.  Mariota, Newton, Brissett,  Taylor, RGIII, Geno Smith, Terrelle Pryor.  That the list of running QBs who aren't crazy expensive, some really cheap.  And there are other similar types,  some more "QB" others more TE or RB or FB or WR.   And every year you're drafting from that pack of guys who are easily identifiable,  great combine or pro day numbers,  big college rushing numbers, and not terrible passer rating.   Hurts only cost a mid 2nd.  Often a mid 2nd won't be needed.  This draft Ian Book ran a 4.42.  You don't even need to think about it,  Ian Book is not going to be drafted in the first round.  The Eagles should be able to get him on day 3.  He might be a udfa.  And every year, you're picking up those running QBs who have the athleticism to play another position, and what you train them to do is to play both positions,  QB and the other one, or a new type of position that requires being able to run, block (if the size is there) and both throw and catch the Philly Special.   You fill the roster with cheap running QBs,  and you never get too reliant on that 1 single QB who you want to declare "the guy".   I would rather have multiple guyS, not just one indispensible guy who you have to pay.  I'd want to get away from "starting QB" if I could.  "Yeah, we got a lot of backs who can throw, we like to bring in running QBs from college, train them in our system.   We're doing what we can to decrease reliance on one single, very expensive, point of failure, instead going with a larger number of similar, athletic, running QBs who are lined up in different spots.   

3 hours ago, Random Reglar said:

They saved $100 Million of real spending money which would go on the cap.

It will be much easier to deal with the ramifications of pushing bonuses into future years when you don't have to worry about Wentz's cap hit ever again after this year.

That $35 Million dead cap hit is the bonuses.  And then you see, like with Hargraves,  the Eagles are only paying him the minimum salary,  the rest of his money was changed to bonus, and the cap hit goes on to future years.  If the Eagles had to pay Wentz $100 Million over that period it would've caused real problems.

The Eagles aren't spending new money when they're restructuring these contracts,  they're simply moving the cap figure to the future,  which is totally (mostly) fine, because no more Wentz to pay in the future. 

It's a 2 yr rebuild anyways.  Both talent and cap.

7 hours ago, Random Reglar said:

eh maybe.    Howie failed to predict the response of the government to the worst cold ever.  I guess that he should have known that a lot of people would get a cold or flu type virus, very similar to the other cold or flu type viruses that kill people in nursing homes every year,  but this time, the government would wreck the economy, and not allow football fans to see their team play, and that would cause the cap to fall,  pushing the Eagles way over the cap, so much so that they wouldn't be able to get under the covid cap without getting rid of Wentz.

You're saying kicking the can down the road.  And it seems like that's what has been agreed on as terminology.  And yeah, it's that.   But what it also is is simply keeping the high priced players who are also good, very good, or still great.   You, and some others want to get rid of good players to fix the short term cap problem,  but I don't see why simply keeping those good to great players isn't also a good plan.    The Eagles aren't spending more money by restructuring, by and large.   The right side of the Eagles oline including Center has been good for a long time, and it should continue to be so.  The players are highly paid, but they're good.   The Eagles would have to use high draft picks to replace them, and if you're drafting a C, RG or RT with a 1st or 2nd round pick, you're not using that pick on a player at a position of greater need.    So, when you look at all the various costs, and the bind they were put in because government going nuts,  they're in pretty ok shape all things considered.  

Another point you're making is this "you have to pay Hurts if he turns out to be the guy".    No you don't have to do that.  Now, it happens to be true that 100% of the time that's what happens.  But you could go in there with the idea that paying "the guy" $30+M a year is something that you don't want and it's something that you want to avoid.   If you just saw what the negative consequences are of overpaying a QB, you'd want to avoid that.
 

You see this is exactly the kind of wrong headed excuse peddling that keeps Howie in a job, COVID isn't the main issue with our cap problems, the main issue is that Howie has drafted so badly that we cannot let players go, he's had to restructure, backload and extend players contracts to lengths that make no sense, and mean that regardless of what the cap did this year we were always going to run into a problem of an over paid over aged roster at some point soon, and we'll still face the problem when COVID is in the rear view unless Howie learns how to spot talent and actually grasps the nettle of the mess of void and dummy years he's built up among our top paid players since 2017.

9 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

You see this is exactly the kind of wrong headed excuse peddling that keeps Howie in a job, COVID isn't the main issue with our cap problems, the main issue is that Howie has drafted so badly that we cannot let players go, he's had to restructure, backload and extend players contracts to lengths that make no sense, and mean that regardless of what the cap did this year we were always going to run into a problem of an over paid over aged roster at some point soon, and we'll still face the problem when COVID is in the rear view unless Howie learns how to spot talent and actually grasps the nettle of the mess of void and dummy years he's built up among our top paid players since 2017.

The Eagles won the Super Bowl.

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