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26 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

 

Meanwhile, in Florida

Spring Break 2021: College students return to beaches as COVID-19 pandemic rages on

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Didn't I tell you to go get your shinebox?

I though we would have herd immunity soon, rages on?

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1 hour ago, Gannan said:

Historians will spend years studying not only how this clown ever got elected, but why millions of morons worshipped him like a god and were willing to overturn democracy and install him as dictator for life. 

Yeah, I mean, even though Hitler was an intellectual lightweight, at least displayed obvious skills as an orator and storyteller, and he had at least a basic claim to being a common man and a patriot since he came from humble origins, proudly served in the military, and could legitimately claim to have made real sacrifices for Germany, even if he stretched the truth. Every demagogue creates a mythology about themselves, but it's usually grounded somewhat in reality. Trump literally created an alternate reality where he was born a poor white child of immigrant parents who was both physically and intellectually gifted, mentally tough, as well as business-savvy and possessing the sexual prowess of the  so-called alpha, yet the record clearly showed that he was a trust-fund loser living purely off of privilege, emotionally insecure, physically weak, and professionally incompetent, a thoroughly flawed and inept man whose destructive tendencies were completely uncompensated for by any redeeming qualities as human being or professional, a man desperately seeking attention to guard against his physical and intellectual deficiencies. Maybe that's what it was actually: a nation of pathetic losers saw in Trump a loser just like them who, despite his repeated failures and without learning or doing any self-reflection or hard work to better himself, was somehow able to successful con society into thinking he wa virile and a stalwart, despite the obvious fact that he was a weak-willed b|tch. In Trump, millions of ill-begotten hillbillies unconscious of their personal failings and mad at a world they didn't understand idolized a guy who showed them that they, too, could turn their delusions or grandeur into reality if they just lied to themselves enough and bullied their way to the top.

TL;DR: A lot of Americans are lazy and stupid, and Trump gave them hope that laziness and stupidity could pay off if just embraced your inner scumbag.

 

1 hour ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

I though we would have herd immunity soon, rages on?

You get herd immunity after a majority of the US has been exposed and the susceptible die.

 

You do understand that, right?

1 hour ago, mikemack8 said:

No, I’m not.  

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8th grade. Duh, sorry, don't know how I missed that.

Related question, how long after your second shot does it take to reach your maximum immune response? I'm guessing like 3-4 weeks with most of it acquired in about 7-10 days after the injection and then slowly increasing a bit more from there. When are you at peak immunity?

36% is a lot of dumb people.  Two of them are mr Dis sisters.  One works in a state hospital out west, with a husband battling stage iv liver cancer.  The other just turned 65, has 1 heart attack and bowel surgery in her history.  I don’t understand and I’m not even going to try. 
 

I did find out that I made the right choice not going for a shingles vaccine this year as someone I know got one and was told no covid. Too close together. Has to wait a few months.  Also, for anyone going for imaging tests after the vaccine your nodes might light up, better to schedule 30 days after your shot to avoid a false positive. 

1 minute ago, DiPros said:

I did find out that I made the right choice not going for a shingles vaccine this year as someone I know got one and was told no covid. Too close together. Has to wait a few months.  Also, for anyone going for imaging tests after the vaccine your nodes might light up, better to schedule 30 days after your shot to avoid a false positive. 

Yeah, two vaccines in close proximity could make your immune system go haywire, especially in younger and older populations. Aside from knocking you on your ass from what would essentially be a double infection to your body, it probably could even have a deleterious effect on the production of antibodies since you want your cells to react specifically to a coronavirus infection. You don't want your body doing anything but concentrating on a response to the spike protein of SARS-CoV2, not the loosely wound glycoproteins associated with Varicella zoster.

42 minutes ago, DiPros said:

36% is a lot of dumb people.  Two of them are mr Dis sisters.  One works in a state hospital out west, with a husband battling stage iv liver cancer.  The other just turned 65, has 1 heart attack and bowel surgery in her history.  I don’t understand and I’m not even going to try. 
 

I did find out that I made the right choice not going for a shingles vaccine this year as someone I know got one and was told no covid. Too close together. Has to wait a few months.  Also, for anyone going for imaging tests after the vaccine your nodes might light up, better to schedule 30 days after your shot to avoid a false positive. 

With so many people not getting the vaccine the pandemic will not end

1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Related question, how long after your second shot does it take to reach your maximum immune response? I'm guessing like 3-4 weeks with most of it acquired in about 7-10 days after the injection and then slowly increasing a bit more from there. When are you at peak immunity?

2 weeks post second injection. 

Based on a couple preprints posted yesterday and today, durability estimates are looking really good, possibly 2 years or more. No need to worry about a waning response for a while. 

4 hours ago, Toastrel said:

In five years, no one you talk to will admit voting for Trump.

Cough Bull**** Cough

1 hour ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

With so many people not getting the vaccine the pandemic will not end

36% of the remaining unvaccinated 75%, or in other words, 25% of the population. So no change from what we've been expecting for over a month now, doctor doom. 

1 hour ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

With so many people not getting the vaccine the pandemic will not end

I'm still rooting for the virus.

45 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

36% of the remaining unvaccinated 75%, or in other words, 25% of the population. So no change from what we've been expecting for over a month now, doctor doom. 

Where are you getting 25% have been vaccinated already? CNN said 10.3%

20 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Where are you getting 25% have been vaccinated already? CNN said 10.3%

Specifically adults with at least one dose, from earlier in the thread. 

3 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

With so many people not getting the vaccine the pandemic will not end

Yes, but the people getting Covid-19 will be the ones who didn’t get vaccinated.

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14 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

Yes, but the people getting Covid-19 will be the ones who didn’t get vaccinated.

And once they do, they get added to the immune column. As far as length of natural immunity goes, we've got good data now that it's actually fairly durable, and with each passing month, that confidence seems to increase. Estimates for most people with natural immunity are now around 12 months at the minimum and as high as two years. All this talk about covid being a long-term endemic struggle and causing issues seasonally seems to be looking less and less likely each day. Dare I say that you'll be hard pressed to see daily confirmed cases in the double digits for states like PA or MI by the end 2022.

18 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

 

darwin said that 100% of those 36% will die of covid....apparently. 

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

And once they do, they get added you the immune column. As far as length of natural immunity goes, we've got good data now that it's actually fairly durable, and with each passing month, that confidence seems to increase. Estimates for most people with natural immunity are now around 12 months at the minimum and as high as two years. All this talk about covid being a long-term endemic struggle and causing issues seasonally seems to be looking less and less likely each day. Dare I say that you'll be hard pressed to see daily confirmed cases in the double digits for states like PA or MI by the end 2022.

There is never a cloudy day over your home

31 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

There is never a cloudy day over your home

It's a fluid situation, so it comes down to likelihoods, not absolutes. I try to use the former over the latter whenever possible. By your logic, the vaccines are "only" 95% effective so you'll choose to focus on the 5% instead. That's not how my brain works. When I get my shot, I'm gonna act like it's 95% effective and encourage others to do the same.

Just spent over an hour on the phone with the PA Dept of Health about quarantining due to close contact.  Do yourself a favor - avoid them at all costs if you or someone you know tests positive.  What an absolute shitshow - these people even after a year of doing this still have no clue what the hell they're doing.  While I was on the phone, I received TWO other calls from them asking me to call them back.  :roll:  If it wasn't for my employer requiring a letter from them in order to return to work, I wouldn't have even bothered.  

22 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

It's a fluid situation, so it comes down to likelihoods, not absolutes. I try to use the former over the latter whenever possible. By your logic, the vaccines are "only" 95% effective so you'll choose to focus on the 5% instead. That's not how my brain works. When I get my shot, I'm gonna act like it's 95% effective and encourage others to do the same.

I wish I thought like you do and I hope I am 100% wrong about this and a year from now you can say to me I told you so.

1 hour ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

There is never a cloudy day over your home

I'm guessing from your avatar that you envision death around every corner.

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