We still haven't even gotten passed hydroxychloroquine 

Anyway just because I like making idiots look like idiots, here's the data on education levels and vaccination:

https://news.usc.edu/182848/education-covid-19-vaccine-safety-risks-usc-study/

https://www.shadac.org/news/HPSVax-06.21

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1251249/us-covid19-vaccination-and-intent-among-younger-adults-by-education/

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/04/how-do-covid-19-vaccination-and-vaccine-hesitancy-rates-vary-over-time.html

There's no media narrative here. Less educated people are less likely to be vaccinated. Probably cause they're stupid. 

1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

We still haven't even gotten passed hydroxychloroquine 

Anyway just because I like making idiots look like idiots, here's the data on education levels and vaccination:

https://news.usc.edu/182848/education-covid-19-vaccine-safety-risks-usc-study/

https://www.shadac.org/news/HPSVax-06.21

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1251249/us-covid19-vaccination-and-intent-among-younger-adults-by-education/

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/04/how-do-covid-19-vaccination-and-vaccine-hesitancy-rates-vary-over-time.html

There's no media narrative here. Less educated people are less likely to be vaccinated. Probably cause they're stupid. 

Fine.  Let's get past vaccination.

You have a vaccinated patient call after hours.  They have Covid symptoms and received a positive result from a test earlier in the day.  They're feeling worse.  Fever, chills, bad cough.

What do you tell them re treating their illness?

22 minutes ago, Procus said:

Fine.  Let's get past vaccination.

You have a vaccinated patient call after hours.  They have Covid symptoms and received a positive result from a test earlier in the day.  They're feeling worse.  Fever, chills, bad cough.

What do you tell them re treating their illness?

You keep asking this and I really don't get what you're trying to prove. No one here as far as I can tell is against actual treatments for COVID.  As an outpatient those include  steroids and monoclonal antibodies and the decision to use them is based on symptoms and risk factors.

That does not include hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, UV suppositories, Clorox smoothies, or DMT. 

6 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

You keep asking this and I really don't get what you're trying to prove. No one here as far as I can tell is against actual treatments for COVID.  As an outpatient those include  steroids and monoclonal antibodies and the decision to use them is based on symptoms and risk factors.

That does not include hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, UV suppositories, Clorox smoothies, or DMT. 

Pop quiz, hotshot.  Procus comes in with a foreign object lodged in his anus.  What do you do?

4 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

No one here as far as I can tell is against actual treatments for COVID.  As an outpatient those include  steroids and monoclonal antibodies and the decision to use them is based on symptoms and risk factors.

If they're not against it, they're awfully quiet about it. 

You see a lot of horse paste references, but you never see - don't take Ivermectin, do this instead . . .

Truth be told, most people don't know what to do and what options are available to them if they get sick.  With all the yammering about vaccines because this virus can be so virulent, it is very odd that those most vocal are strangely silent on how to combat this disease they are so passionate about if they get ill.

2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Pop quiz, hotshot.  Procus comes in with a foreign object lodged in his anus.  What do you do?

Answer - Procus takes a large dose of Castor Oil, sits on your face and expels.

9 minutes ago, Procus said:

If they're not against it, they're awfully quiet about it. 

You see a lot of horse paste references, but you never see - don't take Ivermectin, do this instead . . .

Truth be told, most people don't know what to do and what options are available to them if they get sick.  With all the yammering about vaccines because this virus can be so virulent, it is very odd that those most vocal are strangely silent on how to combat this disease they are so passionate about if they get ill.

Don’t ignore science, get covid, then take horse paste….get the vaccine instead.  There, was that clear enough? 
 

"most people don’t know what to do if they get covid….”  Huh? Maybe listen to their f’n doctor that probably told them to get the vaccine in the first place? 
 

179 million Smart people know what to do (get vaccinated for starters) and they’ll listen to their doctor.  Dumb arses that ignored the science to begin with are the stupid sheets that don’t know what to do and resort to taking horse paste because that’s better than admitting they were wrong to begin with.  

1 minute ago, DBW said:

Don’t ignore science, get covid, then take horse paste….get the vaccine instead.  There, was that clear enough? 
 

"most people don’t know what to do if they get covid….”  Huh? Maybe listen to their f’n doctor that probably told them to get the vaccine in the first place? 
 

179 million Smart people know what to do (get vaccinated for starters) and they’ll listen to their doctor.  Dumb arses that ignored the science to begin with are the stupid sheets that don’t know what to do and this take horse paste because that’s better than admitting they were wrong to begin with.  

See that's an idiot talking.

You people who are freaking out about the non-vaccinated because they can cause YOU to get sick don't even have the forethought to plan out what to do if you get a breakthrough infection.  I guess it really isn't that serious or you would have done so already.  Either that or you are really stupid.

24 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Pop quiz, hotshot.  Procus comes in with a foreign object lodged in his anus.  What do you do?

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

We know WGB will be working overtime begging to give a rim job

16 minutes ago, Procus said:

See that's an idiot talking.

You people who are freaking out about the non-vaccinated because they can cause YOU to get sick don't even have the forethought to plan out what to do if you get a breakthrough infection.  I guess it really isn't that serious or you would have done so already.  Either that or you are really stupid.

That’s where you’re wrong. See, I got the vaccine so "you people” don’t get me sick, or if you do, it won’t be as sick and I likely won’t need to butt chug maga doses of horse paste to save my life.  
 

its been pretty well proven that break through cases are very mild, many not even having symptoms or in need of anything but rest.  But super smart and well qualified podDoctor Joe Rogan told me the secret it just lots of water, and vitamin C, and super expensive treatments like monoclonal antibodies that we all have such easy access to that will help.  And that’s super great because you know the vaccine is so hard to get and quite expensive.  I’m glad we have such alternative, expensive and unproven treatments because I dont know what I would do without them.   

Just now, Procus said:

We know WGB will be working overtime begging to give a rim job

So what's lodged up there? It's a UV flashlight, isn't it.

3 minutes ago, DBW said:

That’s where you’re wrong. See, I got the vaccine so "you people” don’t get me sick, or if you do, it won’t be as sick and I likely won’t need to butt chug maga doses of horse paste to save my life. 

its been pretty well proven that break through cases are very mild, many not even having symptoms or in need of anything but rest.

Well, if that's the case, you can get off your high horse and stop telling other people who are not vaccinated how they are putting you at risk.

 

30 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Pop quiz, hotshot.  Procus comes in with a foreign object lodged in his anus.  What do you do?

Consult GI and neuro-surgery to remove his head with minimal trauma

28 minutes ago, Procus said:

Well, if that's the case, you can get off your high horse and stop telling other people who are not vaccinated how they are putting you at risk.

 

Nah I think I’ll stay on my high horse and tell those people that they are putting my 8 year old who’s not able to be vaccinated at risk.  

3 minutes ago, DBW said:

Nah I think I’ll stay on my high horse and tell those people that they are putting my 8 year old who’s not able to be vaccinated at risk.  

The good news is that the risk of serious Covid illness in kids is very low.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-children-risk-of-covid-19-death-or-serious-illness-remain-extremely-low-new-studies-find-11625785260

1 minute ago, Procus said:

The good news is that the risk of serious Covid illness in kids is very low.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-children-risk-of-covid-19-death-or-serious-illness-remain-extremely-low-new-studies-find-11625785260

It’s good, but wouldn’t it be great if it wasn’t even something I had to worry about?  

6 minutes ago, DBW said:

It’s good, but wouldn’t it be great if it wasn’t even something I had to worry about?  

You're a parent of an 8 year old.  If you're not worried about something, you're not doing your job properly.

9 minutes ago, Procus said:

You're a parent of an 8 year old.  If you're not worried about something, you're not doing your job properly.

I should be and I am worrying about a lot  things but a preventable viral disease shouldn’t be one of them.  

21 minutes ago, DBW said:

I should be and I am worrying about a lot  things but a preventable viral disease shouldn’t be one of them.  

If people are getting breakthrough infections, and multiple boosters are required, it's not as preventable as you think

2 hours ago, Procus said:

If they're not against it, they're awfully quiet about it. 

You see a lot of horse paste references, but you never see - don't take Ivermectin, do this instead . . .

Truth be told, most people don't know what to do and what options are available to them if they get sick.  With all the yammering about vaccines because this virus can be so virulent, it is very odd that those most vocal are strangely silent on how to combat this disease they are so passionate about if they get ill.

Do you not have a doctor or something? 
 

Most normal people have a plan if they get COVID - follow their doctor’s advice. Because WE ARE NOT DOCTORS. 

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

Do you not have a doctor or something? 
 

Most normal people have a plan if they get COVID - follow their doctor’s advice. Because WE ARE NOT DOCTORS. 

I do, and I did a novel thing many of you should consider - I spoke with different doctors about this already.  Guess what - three of them said Ivermectin is often very effective if given early enough as part of a regimen, but that they are getting pressure in the industry to suppress its use for treatment of Covid. 

And here's a question for all you science people and people who blindly follow all doctors - not just for Covid - do you believe in second opinions, or is the Doctor's word the final word?  You do realize that in many instances, you talk to three different doctors about a situation and you'll get three different opinions.

And as a follow up question for @vikas83, suppose the doctor is from Florida - are you going to listen to him given your prior remarks on doctors from there?

9 minutes ago, Procus said:

I do, and I did a novel thing many of you should consider - I spoke with different doctors about this already.  Guess what - three of them said Ivermectin is often very effective if given early enough as part of a regimen, but that they are getting pressure in the industry to suppress its use for treatment of Covid. 

And here's a question for all you science people and people who blindly follow all doctors - not just for Covid - do you believe in second opinions, or is the Doctor's word the final word?  You do realize that in many instances, you talk to three different doctors about a situation and you'll get three different opinions.

And as a follow up question for @vikas83, suppose the doctor is from Florida - are you going to listen to him given your prior remarks on doctors from there?

My doctor is Indian and used to teach at Northwestern. Now I pay him a lot to treat me and my wife because I trust him. If he says to take Ivermectin, I will. 
 

I wouldn’t hire a doctor from Florida because…I value my life and well being. 

8 minutes ago, Procus said:

I do, and I did a novel thing many of you should consider - I spoke with different doctors about this already.  Guess what - three of them said Ivermectin is often very effective if given early enough as part of a regimen, but that they are getting pressure in the industry to suppress its use for treatment of Covid. 

And here's a question for all you science people and people who blindly follow all doctors - not just for Covid - do you believe in second opinions, or is the Doctor's word the final word?  You do realize that in many instances, you talk to three different doctors about a situation and you'll get three different opinions.

And as a follow up question for @vikas83, suppose the doctor is from Florida - are you going to listen to him given your prior remarks on doctors from there?

You just happen to "know a guy" whose opinion is the exact opposite to the vast majority of people in his field?

Shocking!