September 15, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, DEagle7 said: You just happen to "know a guy" whose opinion is the exact opposite to the vast majority of people in his field? Shocking! Perhaps you aren't as in the know as you think. I suspect you are nowhere near the caliber of vikas' doctor from Northwestern or the doctors I consulted with. They studied at Columbia, Harvard and Albert Einstein in NY and Tulane.
September 15, 20215 yr 17 minutes ago, Procus said: I do, and I did a novel thing many of you should consider - I spoke with different doctors about this already. Guess what - three of them said Ivermectin is often very effective if given early enough as part of a regimen, but that they are getting pressure in the industry to suppress its use for treatment of Covid. And here's a question for all you science people and people who blindly follow all doctors - not just for Covid - do you believe in second opinions, or is the Doctor's word the final word? You do realize that in many instances, you talk to three different doctors about a situation and you'll get three different opinions. And as a follow up question for @vikas83, suppose the doctor is from Florida - are you going to listen to him given your prior remarks on doctors from there? Chiropractors are not doctors.
September 15, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, Procus said: Perhaps you aren't as in the know as you think. I suspect you are nowhere near the caliber of vikas' doctor from Northwestern or the doctors I consulted with. They studied at Columbia, Harvard and Albert Einstein in NY and Tulane.
September 15, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, Procus said: Perhaps you aren't as in the know as you think. I suspect you are nowhere near the caliber of vikas' doctor from Northwestern or the doctors I consulted with. They studied at Columbia, Harvard and Albert Einstein in NY and Tulane. Did everyone in the waiting room stand up and clap when he told you about ivermectin?
September 15, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Jokes on you and you don't even realize it. Truth be told, these doctors wouldn't be caught dead embarrassing themselves on a football discussion board the way you do.
September 15, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, Procus said: Jokes on you and you don't even realize it. Truth be told, these doctors wouldn't be caught dead embarrassing themselves on a football discussion board the way you do. That's probably just because of the very poor internet connection in imagination-land
September 15, 20215 yr Popped in for a minute.... Yup still the same iight imma head back out. Let me know if any posters die.
September 15, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, Procus said: Jokes on you and you don't even realize it. Truth be told, these doctors wouldn't be caught dead embarrassing themselves on a football discussion board the way you do. Are you even a real doctor anymore if you’re not into the horse paste?
September 15, 20215 yr 13 hours ago, Procus said: If people are getting breakthrough infections, and multiple boosters are required, it's not as preventable as you think Covid may not be 100% preventable, just as the flu is not 100% preventable, but what is preventable to a very high percentage are Death and hospitalization from Covid by simply getting vaccinated. I think the number is something like 99.95% of breakthrough cases do not result in hospitalization let alone death. And I know you’re gonna argue The survival rate of Covid is 97 or 98%, but it’s still very clear that the vaccine gives you a better chance of surviving Covid then not getting vaccinated.
September 15, 20215 yr 2 hours ago, Procus said: I do, and I did a novel thing many of you should consider - I spoke with different doctors about this already. Guess what - three of them said Ivermectin is often very effective if given early enough as part of a regimen, but that they are getting pressure in the industry to suppress its use for treatment of Covid. And here's a question for all you science people and people who blindly follow all doctors - not just for Covid - do you believe in second opinions, or is the Doctor's word the final word? You do realize that in many instances, you talk to three different doctors about a situation and you'll get three different opinions. And as a follow up question for @vikas83, suppose the doctor is from Florida - are you going to listen to him given your prior remarks on doctors from there? Kkz is not a doctor
September 15, 20215 yr How stupid are these people? This stupid. However, I heard about the horse deworming medicine from a toll taker.
September 15, 20215 yr Saw this email from the base here. Troops aren't allowed to go downtown for now b/c the number of cases on base are at a higher percentage than the native host country population. I'm guessing that processing the influx of 55,000 plus Afghan people might have had something to do with it. We also are now required to wear masks indoors and in vehicles when not alone again until further notice. 👎 Quote The installation continues to be at a high COVID transmission rate with 10 new cases in the last 7 days, leading to a new case rate of 117 per 100,000. By DoD policy, substantial or high transmission requires universal mask wear by all individuals, including those who are vaccinated. Over the last 30 days, we have had 58 positive COVID cases. 37 (64%) of those were fully vaccinated and 21 (36%) were not fully vaccinated. Over the last 7 days, 9 of the new cases were vaccinated, 1 was not fully vaccinated. This underscores the importance and need for mask wear to include vaccinated individuals, at least until our local transmission rate falls low enough to merit reconsideration. I encourage everyone to be diligent about mask wear indoors, in confined spaces such as vehicles, and in congregate settings outdoors, so that our transmission rate falls and we can reset our posture. We remain in a closed posture for travel off the installation (except for mission essential) because the local transmission rate in //host country// is 24 new cases per 100,000, placing them in a moderate transmission risk category. Movement of our population outside of the installation creates a transmission risk into the //host nation// population, which we want to avoid. The mandatory Pfizer vaccine, Cominarty is not available in the AOR, but the EMDG continues to offer Moderna vaccination. Although policy measures require things like mask wear during periods of higher transmission, vaccination still remains one of the most effective interventions to reduce transmission and has extremely high efficacy at preventing serious disease from COVID. The EMDG will be resuming outreach to units with lower vaccination rates and I encourage individuals who are thinking about vaccination to speak to a clinician at the EMDG for more information. V/R,
September 15, 20215 yr 14 hours ago, Procus said: See that's an idiot talking. You people who are freaking out about the non-vaccinated because they can cause YOU to get sick don't even have the forethought to plan out what to do if you get a breakthrough infection. I guess it really isn't that serious or you would have done so already. Either that or you are really stupid. Wait - so the new angle that non-vaxx people are using now is persecution? I guess it won't be long before the most selfish, ignorant group in America tries to sue someone for a hate crime against them.
September 15, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, pallidrone said: Wait - so the new angle that non-vaxx people are using now is persecution? I guess it won't be long before the most selfish, ignorant group in America tries to sue someone for a hate crime against them. Is persecuting a complete idiot for doing an idiotic thing really bad though?
September 15, 20215 yr Just now, Boogyman said: Is persecuting a complete idiot for doing an idiotic thing really bad though? Not at all. Especially when they are the ones that are throwing temper tantrums at school meetings or protesting city meetings because of mask mandates and the desire to get back to the 'way things used to be', but absolutely refuse to take the necessary steps to allow us to get to that point.
September 15, 20215 yr 12 hours ago, Procus said: I do, and I did a novel thing many of you should consider - I spoke with different doctors about this already. Guess what - three of them said Ivermectin is often very effective if given early enough as part of a regimen, but that they are getting pressure in the industry to suppress its use for treatment of Covid. And here's a question for all you science people and people who blindly follow all doctors - not just for Covid - do you believe in second opinions, or is the Doctor's word the final word? You do realize that in many instances, you talk to three different doctors about a situation and you'll get three different opinions. And as a follow up question for @vikas83, suppose the doctor is from Florida - are you going to listen to him given your prior remarks on doctors from there? Ive been going to the same GP since I was a teenager, and the same cardiologist for 10 years. Yes, I trust them. My cardiologist told me to get vaccinated. He also said that hydrxochloriquin can cause organ failure. I'm going with his opinion over randos from the internet.
September 15, 20215 yr 19 hours ago, Paul852 said: Yeah, totally made up who the people are refusing the vaccine. The lowest vaccinations rates being all red states (except Georgia) is just a coincidence. Totally just a narrative. 19 hours ago, Paul852 said: Really need to know how many Phds this poll actually involved. 18 hours ago, DEagle7 said: Probably because it's horseshit. Education level has one of the strongest positive correlations with vaccination rates studied factors. Your issue needs to be taken up with the people behind the study... Oh look at that University of Pittsburg and Carnegie Mellon University. what are these again? Ohhh places of higher education. God you guys are so entrenched in your leftist dogma. Now, a separate study conducted by researchers at the University of Pittsburgh and Carnegie Mellon University has revealed some other interesting data about the vaccine hesitant.
September 15, 20215 yr One thing that has been revealed to me recently: People who have had COVID and survived with minimal issues, are also hesitant to get the Vaccine as they see this as an unecessary risk. That can be argued but I cant blame them.
September 15, 20215 yr 22 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: Your issue needs to be taken up with the people behind the study... Oh look at that University of Pittsburg and Carnegie Mellon University. what are these again? Ohhh places of higher education. God you guys are so entrenched in your leftist dogma. Now, a separate study conducted by researchers at the University of Pittsburgh and Carnegie Mellon University has revealed some other interesting data about the vaccine hesitant. People who are vaccine hesitant are (the majority) less educated. That's just fact. Even the polls you posted show that aside from the phds (which there are only 3 million of in the entire country).
September 15, 20215 yr Chinese plant ? Chinese defector claims he warned the US that China was covering up a deadly new virus in Wuhan MONTHS before Covid-19 was declared a pandemic - but was 'ignored' by Trump officials By Levi Parsons For Daily Mail Australia04:54 EDT 15 Sep 2021 , updated 05:40 EDT 15 Sep 2021 +8 465 comments Defector Wei Jingsheng said he warned Trump administration about Covid He claims he took his concerns to senior figures in the US gov but was ignored The campaigner says he made the approach all way back in November 2019 Had heard rumours about a 'new SARS virus' being kept secret in China
September 15, 20215 yr 17 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said: Chinese plant ? Chinese defector claims he warned the US that China was covering up a deadly new virus in Wuhan MONTHS before Covid-19 was declared a pandemic - but was 'ignored' by Trump officials By Levi Parsons For Daily Mail Australia04:54 EDT 15 Sep 2021 , updated 05:40 EDT 15 Sep 2021 +8 465 comments Defector Wei Jingsheng said he warned Trump administration about Covid He claims he took his concerns to senior figures in the US gov but was ignored The campaigner says he made the approach all way back in November 2019 Had heard rumours about a 'new SARS virus' being kept secret in China To be fair in this, hindsight is 20/20. We can't be in the habit of overreacting to every claim a defector makes.
September 15, 20215 yr https://www.propublica.org/article/a-boy-went-to-a-covid-swamped-er-he-waited-for-hours-then-his-appendix-burst
Create an account or sign in to comment