30 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Pop quiz, hotshot.  Procus comes in with a foreign object lodged in his anus.  What do you do?

Consult GI and neuro-surgery to remove his head with minimal trauma

28 minutes ago, Procus said:

Well, if that's the case, you can get off your high horse and stop telling other people who are not vaccinated how they are putting you at risk.

 

Nah I think I’ll stay on my high horse and tell those people that they are putting my 8 year old who’s not able to be vaccinated at risk.  

3 minutes ago, DBW said:

Nah I think I’ll stay on my high horse and tell those people that they are putting my 8 year old who’s not able to be vaccinated at risk.  

The good news is that the risk of serious Covid illness in kids is very low.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-children-risk-of-covid-19-death-or-serious-illness-remain-extremely-low-new-studies-find-11625785260

1 minute ago, Procus said:

The good news is that the risk of serious Covid illness in kids is very low.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-children-risk-of-covid-19-death-or-serious-illness-remain-extremely-low-new-studies-find-11625785260

It’s good, but wouldn’t it be great if it wasn’t even something I had to worry about?  

6 minutes ago, DBW said:

It’s good, but wouldn’t it be great if it wasn’t even something I had to worry about?  

You're a parent of an 8 year old.  If you're not worried about something, you're not doing your job properly.

9 minutes ago, Procus said:

You're a parent of an 8 year old.  If you're not worried about something, you're not doing your job properly.

I should be and I am worrying about a lot  things but a preventable viral disease shouldn’t be one of them.  

21 minutes ago, DBW said:

I should be and I am worrying about a lot  things but a preventable viral disease shouldn’t be one of them.  

If people are getting breakthrough infections, and multiple boosters are required, it's not as preventable as you think

2 hours ago, Procus said:

If they're not against it, they're awfully quiet about it. 

You see a lot of horse paste references, but you never see - don't take Ivermectin, do this instead . . .

Truth be told, most people don't know what to do and what options are available to them if they get sick.  With all the yammering about vaccines because this virus can be so virulent, it is very odd that those most vocal are strangely silent on how to combat this disease they are so passionate about if they get ill.

Do you not have a doctor or something? 
 

Most normal people have a plan if they get COVID - follow their doctor’s advice. Because WE ARE NOT DOCTORS. 

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

Do you not have a doctor or something? 
 

Most normal people have a plan if they get COVID - follow their doctor’s advice. Because WE ARE NOT DOCTORS. 

I do, and I did a novel thing many of you should consider - I spoke with different doctors about this already.  Guess what - three of them said Ivermectin is often very effective if given early enough as part of a regimen, but that they are getting pressure in the industry to suppress its use for treatment of Covid. 

And here's a question for all you science people and people who blindly follow all doctors - not just for Covid - do you believe in second opinions, or is the Doctor's word the final word?  You do realize that in many instances, you talk to three different doctors about a situation and you'll get three different opinions.

And as a follow up question for @vikas83, suppose the doctor is from Florida - are you going to listen to him given your prior remarks on doctors from there?

9 minutes ago, Procus said:

I do, and I did a novel thing many of you should consider - I spoke with different doctors about this already.  Guess what - three of them said Ivermectin is often very effective if given early enough as part of a regimen, but that they are getting pressure in the industry to suppress its use for treatment of Covid. 

And here's a question for all you science people and people who blindly follow all doctors - not just for Covid - do you believe in second opinions, or is the Doctor's word the final word?  You do realize that in many instances, you talk to three different doctors about a situation and you'll get three different opinions.

And as a follow up question for @vikas83, suppose the doctor is from Florida - are you going to listen to him given your prior remarks on doctors from there?

My doctor is Indian and used to teach at Northwestern. Now I pay him a lot to treat me and my wife because I trust him. If he says to take Ivermectin, I will. 
 

I wouldn’t hire a doctor from Florida because…I value my life and well being. 

8 minutes ago, Procus said:

I do, and I did a novel thing many of you should consider - I spoke with different doctors about this already.  Guess what - three of them said Ivermectin is often very effective if given early enough as part of a regimen, but that they are getting pressure in the industry to suppress its use for treatment of Covid. 

And here's a question for all you science people and people who blindly follow all doctors - not just for Covid - do you believe in second opinions, or is the Doctor's word the final word?  You do realize that in many instances, you talk to three different doctors about a situation and you'll get three different opinions.

And as a follow up question for @vikas83, suppose the doctor is from Florida - are you going to listen to him given your prior remarks on doctors from there?

You just happen to "know a guy" whose opinion is the exact opposite to the vast majority of people in his field?

Shocking!

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

You just happen to "know a guy" whose opinion is the exact opposite to the vast majority of people in his field?

Shocking!

Perhaps you aren't as in the know as you think.  I suspect you are nowhere near the caliber of vikas' doctor from Northwestern or the doctors I consulted with.  They studied at Columbia, Harvard and Albert Einstein in NY and Tulane.

17 minutes ago, Procus said:

I do, and I did a novel thing many of you should consider - I spoke with different doctors about this already.  Guess what - three of them said Ivermectin is often very effective if given early enough as part of a regimen, but that they are getting pressure in the industry to suppress its use for treatment of Covid. 

And here's a question for all you science people and people who blindly follow all doctors - not just for Covid - do you believe in second opinions, or is the Doctor's word the final word?  You do realize that in many instances, you talk to three different doctors about a situation and you'll get three different opinions.

And as a follow up question for @vikas83, suppose the doctor is from Florida - are you going to listen to him given your prior remarks on doctors from there?

Chiropractors are not doctors. 

4 minutes ago, Procus said:

Perhaps you aren't as in the know as you think.  I suspect you are nowhere near the caliber of vikas' doctor from Northwestern or the doctors I consulted with.  They studied at Columbia, Harvard and Albert Einstein in NY and Tulane.

4 minutes ago, Procus said:

Perhaps you aren't as in the know as you think.  I suspect you are nowhere near the caliber of vikas' doctor from Northwestern or the doctors I consulted with.  They studied at Columbia, Harvard and Albert Einstein in NY and Tulane.

Did everyone in the waiting room stand up and clap when he told you about ivermectin?

4 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Jokes on you and you don't even realize it.  Truth be told, these doctors wouldn't be caught dead embarrassing themselves on a football discussion board the way you do.

2 minutes ago, Procus said:

Jokes on you and you don't even realize it.  Truth be told, these doctors wouldn't be caught dead embarrassing themselves on a football discussion board the way you do.

That's probably just because of the very poor internet connection in imagination-land 

Popped in for a minute.... Yup still the same iight imma head back out. Let me know if any posters die.

1 hour ago, Procus said:

Jokes on you and you don't even realize it.  Truth be told, these doctors wouldn't be caught dead embarrassing themselves on a football discussion board the way you do.

Are you even a real doctor anymore if you’re not into the horse paste?

13 hours ago, Procus said:

If people are getting breakthrough infections, and multiple boosters are required, it's not as preventable as you think

Covid may not be 100% preventable, just as the flu is not 100% preventable, but what is preventable to a very high percentage are Death and hospitalization from Covid by simply getting vaccinated. I think the number is something like 99.95% of breakthrough cases do not result in hospitalization let alone death. And I know you’re gonna argue The survival rate of Covid is 97 or 98%, but it’s still very clear that the vaccine gives you a better chance of surviving Covid then not getting vaccinated.
 

 

2 hours ago, Procus said:

I do, and I did a novel thing many of you should consider - I spoke with different doctors about this already.  Guess what - three of them said Ivermectin is often very effective if given early enough as part of a regimen, but that they are getting pressure in the industry to suppress its use for treatment of Covid. 

And here's a question for all you science people and people who blindly follow all doctors - not just for Covid - do you believe in second opinions, or is the Doctor's word the final word?  You do realize that in many instances, you talk to three different doctors about a situation and you'll get three different opinions.

And as a follow up question for @vikas83, suppose the doctor is from Florida - are you going to listen to him given your prior remarks on doctors from there?

Kkz is not a doctor 

 

How stupid are these people?

 

This stupid. However, I heard about the horse deworming medicine from a toll taker.

Saw this email from the base here. Troops aren't allowed to go downtown for now b/c the number of cases on base are at a higher percentage than the native host country population. I'm guessing that processing the influx of 55,000 plus Afghan people might have had something to do with it. We also are now required to wear masks indoors and in vehicles when not alone again until further notice. 👎

 

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The installation continues to be at a high COVID transmission rate with 10 new cases in the last 7 days, leading to a new case rate of 117 per 100,000.  By DoD policy, substantial or high transmission requires universal mask wear by all individuals, including those who are vaccinated.

Over the last 30 days, we have had 58 positive COVID cases.  37 (64%)  of those were fully vaccinated and 21 (36%) were not fully vaccinated.  Over the last 7 days, 9 of the new cases were vaccinated, 1 was not fully vaccinated.  This underscores the importance and need for mask wear to include vaccinated individuals, at least until our local transmission rate falls low enough to merit reconsideration.  I encourage everyone to be diligent about mask wear indoors, in confined spaces such as vehicles, and in congregate settings outdoors, so that our transmission rate falls and we can reset our posture. 

We remain in a closed posture for travel off the installation (except for mission essential) because the local transmission rate in //host country// is 24 new cases per 100,000, placing them in a moderate transmission risk category.  Movement of our population outside of the installation creates a transmission risk into the //host nation// population, which we want to avoid.

The mandatory Pfizer vaccine, Cominarty is not available in the AOR, but the EMDG continues to offer Moderna vaccination.  Although policy measures require things like mask wear during periods of higher transmission, vaccination still remains one of the most effective interventions to reduce transmission and has extremely high efficacy at preventing serious disease from COVID.  The EMDG will be resuming outreach to units with lower vaccination rates and I encourage individuals who are thinking about vaccination to speak to a clinician at the EMDG for more information.

 

V/R,

 

14 hours ago, Procus said:

See that's an idiot talking.

You people who are freaking out about the non-vaccinated because they can cause YOU to get sick don't even have the forethought to plan out what to do if you get a breakthrough infection.  I guess it really isn't that serious or you would have done so already.  Either that or you are really stupid.

Wait - so the new angle that non-vaxx people are using now is persecution?

I guess it won't be long before the most selfish, ignorant group in America tries to sue someone for a hate crime against them.

1 minute ago, pallidrone said:

Wait - so the new angle that non-vaxx people are using now is persecution?

I guess it won't be long before the most selfish, ignorant group in America tries to sue someone for a hate crime against them.

Is persecuting a complete idiot for doing an idiotic thing really bad though?