September 30, 20214 yr 41 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: OK good. So maybe when it comes to the decision to get vaccinated, take certain medications, wear masks etc you should listen tooooooo.... (Almost there) And what makes you think I haven't been vaccinated? You have no clue about my vaccination status, and I won't be sharing it on these public boards with any of you. It's my own private business and none of your business unless I choose to let you know.
September 30, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Go tell that to the population of Gibraltar where they have 100% vaccination and soaring Covid.
September 30, 20214 yr On 9/28/2021 at 1:38 PM, vikas83 said: This thread...brutal. At this point we should just start denying care to unvaccinated.
September 30, 20214 yr 7 hours ago, Procus said: Go tell that to the population of Gibraltar where they have 100% vaccination and soaring Covid. 119% vaccinated? Gibraltar emerges as the world champion in giving COVID-19 shots British territory reported zero COVID-19 deaths since February 28 https://gulfnews.com/world/119-vaccinated-gibraltar-emerges-as-the-world-champion-in-giving-covid-19-shots-1.1632935418159 Fully vaccinated and zero deaths doesn't sound horrible to me. Clearly we measure success differently.
September 30, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, Toastrel said: 119% vaccinated? Gibraltar emerges as the world champion in giving COVID-19 shots British territory reported zero COVID-19 deaths since February 28 https://gulfnews.com/world/119-vaccinated-gibraltar-emerges-as-the-world-champion-in-giving-covid-19-shots-1.1632935418159 Fully vaccinated and zero deaths doesn't sound horrible to me. Clearly we measure success differently. Funny how different news sources say different things: https://www.europereloaded.com/gibraltar-100-vaccinated-corona-incidence-is-going-through-the-roof/ Gibraltar: 100% vaccinated – Corona incidence is going through the roof REPORT24 Gibraltar was sold in the media as a prime example of how wonderfully "normal” life could be if only every citizen dutifully picked up his vaccination: on the small peninsula with fewer than 34,000 inhabitants, a vaccination rate of 100% was actually achieved. In the meantime, however, it has become suspiciously quiet around the oh-so-successful country. This is hardly surprising, because the incidence in Gibraltar has exploded: it is currently well over 400. Data from Gibraltar already raised serious questions at the beginning of the year when, just in time for the start of the vaccination campaign in January, the previously low corona death rate in the country began to rise massively. Fact checkers financed by the pharmaceutical industry tried to deny any connection between the deaths and the vaccination – but, as usual, they could not provide any counter-evidence: The conclusion was simply that a causal connection was not officially confirmed. Of course, that means nothing – so far, every serious side effect of the Covid vaccine has been downplayed unrestrainedly, until sooner or later an official warning had to be issued. And now the numbers from Gibraltar are fueling all doubts about the meaning and purpose of the corona vaccinations. Most recently, a 7-day incidence of a whopping 489.8 was recorded – and the number of cases continues to rise. There are hardly any serious cases; however, this is not surprising, after all, Covid-19 is not dangerous for the majority of the population. Officials attribute the explosion in the number of cases despite vaccination to the delta variant, i.e. the variant because of which every adult (and every child) in this country is supposed to be forced to receive the supposedly protective vaccination. Other countries with high vaccination rates also have high case numbers Gibraltar is anything but an isolated case . For example, Report24 reported on the Seychelles as early as May : Their vaccination rate is considered exemplary worldwide – to this day the Seychelles have one of the highest vaccination rates in the world. At the same time, however, they also have one of the highest incidences with values well over 500 . ************
September 30, 20214 yr And they're both wrong, since no country, as far as I'm aware, has vaccinated their entire population under the age of 18. Vaccinated 100% of eligible adults is not the same as 100% of the total population. And spare me the "kids don't get covid" nonsense we've seen from trumpbots during the past year and a half.
September 30, 20214 yr RIP. I don't wish this on anyone. https://www.survivethenews.com/former-notre-dame-professor-who-said-damn-the-unvaccinated-dies-two-weeks-after-receiving-3rd-covid-shot/ Former Notre Dame Professor Who Said, "Damn the Unvaccinated” Dies Two Weeks After Receiving 3rd Covid Shot BySurvive the News Sep 29, 2021 Orlando, Florida – A former Notre Dame professor who routinely attacked unvaccinated people as "selfish” passed away after she received her 3rd Covid vaccine. 67-year-old Karen Croake Heisler received her first Pfizer Covid jab on January 13, 2021. "Just got my first dose of the vaccine. Never been happier to be "old.” Now let’s get these vaccines rolling for everyone!” she said. On April 9, Heisler tweeted that she had zero side effects after receiving her second Pfizer jab. A week later, Heisler started to have complications and cursed the unvaccinated. Heisler said her cardiologist tried to admit her to the hospital but there are no rooms because of Covid. About two weeks after her third Covid jab, Karen Croake Heisler passed away. According to Heisler’s obituary, she died of "cancer-related complications” on September 19. https://twitter.com/jessica_smetana/status/1439747534579290112?s=20
September 30, 20214 yr Pope GOAT at it again, this time mandating everyone at the Vatican get vaccinated. Score another one for the good guys.
September 30, 20214 yr Here's the COVID statement from the site Procus just linked "Europe Reloaded" just in case anyone's curious WHO ARE WE & WHAT DO WE STAND FOR? COVID UPDATE: We support REAL science led by doctors and researchers such as Michael Yeadon, Wolfgang Wodarg, Sucharit Bhakdi, Dolores Cahill, Heiko Schoning, Andrew Kaufmann, &etc. We do not endorse liberty- and economy-destroying measures such as lockdowns, the wearing of masks, and the fear propaganda of the media based on lies about ‘cases’ and death rates. We oppose the Great Reset policy of the Davos crowd. We oppose the massive election fraud that has been proven to exist in the November US presidential election. We oppose forced vaccine policies and vaccine passports. We support natural health, support for our immune systems, and proven treatments such as HCQ and ivermectin. They also have articles on how billionaires are trying to depopulate the earth. Full EagleVA style "Funny how different sites say different things"
September 30, 20214 yr 16 hours ago, Procus said: Just found out that we lost a friend in her early 70's to Covid. She was fully vaccinated. RIP. Sorry for your loss, Procus.
September 30, 20214 yr Lol "survivethenews.com" is even worse. Their "About Us" section just takes you to an ad for Trump gear Shocking for a site blaming the death of a guy with cancer on a booster shot. Truly the dumbest Fing people.
September 30, 20214 yr 23 minutes ago, Procus said: Funny how different news sources say different things: https://www.europereloaded.com/gibraltar-100-vaccinated-corona-incidence-is-going-through-the-roof/ Gibraltar: 100% vaccinated – Corona incidence is going through the roof REPORT24 Gibraltar was sold in the media as a prime example of how wonderfully "normal” life could be if only every citizen dutifully picked up his vaccination: on the small peninsula with fewer than 34,000 inhabitants, a vaccination rate of 100% was actually achieved. In the meantime, however, it has become suspiciously quiet around the oh-so-successful country. This is hardly surprising, because the incidence in Gibraltar has exploded: it is currently well over 400. Data from Gibraltar already raised serious questions at the beginning of the year when, just in time for the start of the vaccination campaign in January, the previously low corona death rate in the country began to rise massively. Fact checkers financed by the pharmaceutical industry tried to deny any connection between the deaths and the vaccination – but, as usual, they could not provide any counter-evidence: The conclusion was simply that a causal connection was not officially confirmed. Of course, that means nothing – so far, every serious side effect of the Covid vaccine has been downplayed unrestrainedly, until sooner or later an official warning had to be issued. And now the numbers from Gibraltar are fueling all doubts about the meaning and purpose of the corona vaccinations. Most recently, a 7-day incidence of a whopping 489.8 was recorded – and the number of cases continues to rise. There are hardly any serious cases; however, this is not surprising, after all, Covid-19 is not dangerous for the majority of the population. Officials attribute the explosion in the number of cases despite vaccination to the delta variant, i.e. the variant because of which every adult (and every child) in this country is supposed to be forced to receive the supposedly protective vaccination. Other countries with high vaccination rates also have high case numbers Gibraltar is anything but an isolated case . For example, Report24 reported on the Seychelles as early as May : Their vaccination rate is considered exemplary worldwide – to this day the Seychelles have one of the highest vaccination rates in the world. At the same time, however, they also have one of the highest incidences with values well over 500 . ************ Try to follow this: When you are vaccinated, you can still catch the disease. It just won't kill you. Generally, you have a milder case. No deaths since February still sounds good to me, despite your ALARMING bold text.
September 30, 20214 yr He's not an antivaxer, guys. He just happens to stumble upon all these clearly reputable sites that imply people are dying from the vaccine.
September 30, 20214 yr 18 hours ago, Dave Moss said: We have a project under construction right now for a federal agency. During a site visit yesterday, after everyone else from the agency left, their full time site representative started asking the 2 guys from my company if we were hiring. Apparently, he refuses to get the vaccine. He indicated to one of our guys that he really likes what he does and enjoys working there but he isn’t sure what the consequences are going to be since he won’t get the shot. Their meeting to discuss requirements was postponed and he’s preparing for possibility of losing his job.
September 30, 20214 yr 11 hours ago, Procus said: Hardly. I'd want the best doctors to lead the charge there. Although if there were some hot shot nurses on staff, damn right I'd want them involved in the decision making process and find it hard to believe that you would not want their participation. I'm guessing you were envisioning hot lips Houlihan. You're really getting clowned in here. The right seems so hell-bent on elevating the common over the specialized (elite) that they're actually arguing for taking the advise of conspiracy minded nurses over doctors with vastly more knowledge and understanding of medical science. That there are bad doctors and good nurses does not change the fact that the average doctor is much better informed about Covid than the average nurse. That's not a shot at nurses, it's just reality. It's not their role to know, and the fact of the matter is most nurses don't have the capacity to be a practicing doctor. It's very hard to be a doctor. Far more humans are capable of learning the skills required to be a nurse vs that of a doctor. That doesn't make nurses unimportant. But it does make doctors more valuable - because they're more knowledgeable and thus trusted. To argue otherwise is ridiculous.
September 30, 20214 yr 10 hours ago, Procus said: And what makes you think I haven't been vaccinated? You have no clue about my vaccination status, and I won't be sharing it on these public boards with any of you. It's my own private business and none of your business unless I choose to let you know. Hi Carson! Could you do us a favor and stay healthy and play just good enough not to get benched but bad enough to get us a top 10 pick? Would be much appreciated. Thanks!
September 30, 20214 yr "You liberal sheep with your NY Times and NPR echo chambers. Anyway here's an article from Trumpcucks.ru that explains how Flintstone vitamin enemas reduced COVID deaths by 112% among a group of Inuit tribesman. Why don't we see THAT in the mainstream media?!"
September 30, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I'm guessing you were envisioning hot lips Houlihan. You're really getting clowned in here. The right seems so hell-bent on elevating the common over the specialized (elite) that they're actually arguing for taking the advise of conspiracy minded nurses over doctors with vastly more knowledge and understanding of medical science. That there are bad doctors and good nurses does not change the fact that the average doctor is much better informed about Covid than the average nurse. That's not a shot at nurses, it's just reality. It's not their role to know, and the fact of the matter is most nurses don't have the capacity to be a practicing doctor. It's very hard to be a doctor. Far more humans are capable of learning the skills required to be a nurse vs that of a doctor. That doesn't make nurses unimportant. But it does make doctors more valuable - because they're more knowledgeable and thus trusted. To argue otherwise is ridiculous. This x1000. MAGA is truly a collective of those that occupy the peak of Mt. Stupid.
September 30, 20214 yr 10 minutes ago, Kz! said: nothing says freedom like telling businesses what they can't require of their employees and customers.
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