5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

nothing says freedom like telling businesses what they can't require of their employees and customers.

Biden: We're forcing all businesses with over 100 employees to mandate vaccines.

Riot Kitchen: This is fine.

Ron DeSantis: No, we're not allowing businesses to do that.

Riot Kitchen: *hyperventilating in ishlib* He can't do that! He's a tyrant!

 

1 minute ago, Kz! said:

Biden: We're forcing all businesses with over 100 employees to mandate vaccines.

Riot Kitchen: This is fine.

Ron DeSantis: No, we're not allowing businesses to do that.

Riot Kitchen: *hyperventilating in ishlib* He can't do that! He's a tyrant!

 

4 hours ago, Toastrel said:

Try to follow this:

When you are vaccinated, you can still catch the disease. It just won't kill you. Generally, you have a milder case. No deaths since February still sounds good to me, despite your ALARMING bold text.

Tell that to the husband and kids of our friend who passed away last week from Covid - passed away despite being fully vaccinated.

Sorry, don't have a cite to the Internet for that piece of information.

14 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

 

Klein as stupid and uninformed as always.

Unfortunately, that’s not going to be the ending. This thing is like the flu — it’s not going away. Vaccination doesn’t prevent transmission or infection.

Everyone is going to get COVID eventually. The vaccination will lower symptoms and prevent deaths from COVID in the aggregate, hopefully without unintended consequences like mutation of the virus into a less manageable form or causing unforeseen side effects at a high rate.

 

 

Merck says research shows its COVID-19 pill works against variants

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/1-merck-says-research-shows-183245783.html

 

Laboratory studies show that Merck & Co's experimental oral COVID-19 antiviral drug, molnupiravir, is likely to be effective against known variants of the coronavirus, including the dominant, highly transmissible Delta, the company said on Wednesday. 

  Since molnupiravir does not target the spike protein of the virus - the target of all current COVID-19 vaccines - which defines the differences between the variants, the drug should be equally effective as the virus continues to evolve, said Jay Grobler, head of infectious disease and vaccines at Merck. 

  Molnupiravir instead targets the viral polymerase, an enzyme needed for the virus to make copies of itself. It is designed to work by introducing errors into the genetic code of the virus. 

  Data shows that the drug is most effective when given early in the course of infection, Merck said. 

59 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

Merck says research shows its COVID-19 pill works against variants

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/1-merck-says-research-shows-183245783.html

 

Laboratory studies show that Merck & Co's experimental oral COVID-19 antiviral drug, molnupiravir, is likely to be effective against known variants of the coronavirus, including the dominant, highly transmissible Delta, the company said on Wednesday. 

  Since molnupiravir does not target the spike protein of the virus - the target of all current COVID-19 vaccines - which defines the differences between the variants, the drug should be equally effective as the virus continues to evolve, said Jay Grobler, head of infectious disease and vaccines at Merck. 

  Molnupiravir instead targets the viral polymerase, an enzyme needed for the virus to make copies of itself. It is designed to work by introducing errors into the genetic code of the virus. 

  Data shows that the drug is most effective when given early in the course of infection, Merck said. 

Gee, I wonder how much Merck has budgeted to earn from this little pill.  Certainly a lot more than the horsepaste pill.

1 hour ago, jsdarkstar said:

Merck says research shows its COVID-19 pill works against variants

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/1-merck-says-research-shows-183245783.html

 

Laboratory studies show that Merck & Co's experimental oral COVID-19 antiviral drug, molnupiravir, is likely to be effective against known variants of the coronavirus, including the dominant, highly transmissible Delta, the company said on Wednesday. 

  Since molnupiravir does not target the spike protein of the virus - the target of all current COVID-19 vaccines - which defines the differences between the variants, the drug should be equally effective as the virus continues to evolve, said Jay Grobler, head of infectious disease and vaccines at Merck. 

  Molnupiravir instead targets the viral polymerase, an enzyme needed for the virus to make copies of itself. It is designed to work by introducing errors into the genetic code of the virus. 

  Data shows that the drug is most effective when given early in the course of infection, Merck said. 

Best I can tell it's a similar mechanism of action to Remdesivir.

More details for anyone interested:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41594-021-00657-8

20 minutes ago, Procus said:

Gee, I wonder how much Merck has budgeted to earn from this little pill.  Certainly a lot more than the horsepaste pill.

Drug companies developing anti-viral medications to treat a virus instead of anti-parasitics?  What an outrage!

Sit down Hidalgo, adults are talking.

1 hour ago, jsdarkstar said:

Merck says research shows its COVID-19 pill works against variants

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/1-merck-says-research-shows-183245783.html

 

Laboratory studies show that Merck & Co's experimental oral COVID-19 antiviral drug, molnupiravir, is likely to be effective against known variants of the coronavirus, including the dominant, highly transmissible Delta, the company said on Wednesday. 

  Since molnupiravir does not target the spike protein of the virus - the target of all current COVID-19 vaccines - which defines the differences between the variants, the drug should be equally effective as the virus continues to evolve, said Jay Grobler, head of infectious disease and vaccines at Merck. 

  Molnupiravir instead targets the viral polymerase, an enzyme needed for the virus to make copies of itself. It is designed to work by introducing errors into the genetic code of the virus. 

  Data shows that the drug is most effective when given early in the course of infection, Merck said. 

That’s huge. The vaccine is basically a cyclical stop gap. Hopefully this can become a more permanent form of treatment.

Just found out that my cousin who had COVID at Christmas time now Hs chest tightness and gets short of breath. He blames it on the vaccine, but doesn’t rule out the possibility that it could be after effects of having had COVID. SMH…

2 hours ago, DaEagles4Life said:

 

 

Ah yes, only the finest white, non-5G, Christian blood.

Pucker up those buttholes, trumpbots...

 

I can't believe they would infringe upon every American's God-given right to ... fly on someone else's plane for a fee.

1 hour ago, TEW said:

That’s huge. The vaccine is basically a cyclical stop gap. Hopefully this can become a more permanent form of treatment.

From a clinical sense, maybe, but not from an epidemiological sense. It's not a prophylactic, the press release doesn't imply a reduction in transmission, and it would still require early detection and administration. This is basically tamiflu for seasonal influenza (which is the role mAbs already serve with covid), and unfortunately, our track record thus far on antivirals for covid isn't great (remdesivir, liponavir, ritonavir, etc.)

6 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I can't believe they would infringe upon every American's God-given right to ... fly on someone else's plane for a fee.

I'm not crazy about the TSA and the justifications used for its genesis, but my chances of getting covid on a plane are orders of magnitude higher than someone trying to hijack it. This one seems like it should be a slam dunk but nearly half of the senate is representing a death cult so I take nothing for granted anymore.

10 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

From a clinical sense, maybe, but not from an epidemiological sense. It's not a prophylactic, the press release doesn't imply a reduction in transmission, and it would still require early detection and administration. This is basically tamiflu for seasonal influenza (which is the role mAbs already serve with covid), and unfortunately, our track record thus far on antivirals for covid isn't great (remdesivir, liponavir, ritonavir, etc.)

I agree that even fully realized this likely isn't going to be a total game changer when it comes to the course of the pandemic, but man an easily accessible oral duration/severity reducing med would be really nice. 

10 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I'm not crazy about the TSA and the justifications used for its genesis, but my chances of getting covid on a plane are orders of magnitude higher than someone trying to hijack it. This one seems like it should be a slam dunk but nearly half of the senate is representing a death cult so I take nothing for granted anymore.

TBH, the risk of Covid from the flight itself is pretty small given how quickly the air in the cabin is replaced. 

The security lines and waiting around the gate? Riskier.

2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

TBH, the risk of Covid from the flight itself is pretty small given how quickly the air in the cabin is replaced. 

The security lines and waiting around the gate? Riskier.

Agreed. At least pre-delta. But yeah in any case, the inevitable comparisons to overreach that led to the TSA aren't gonna fly with me (teehee.) The level of risk is not even remotely the same.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Agreed. At least pre-delta. But yeah in any case, the inevitable comparisons to overreach that led to the TSA aren't gonna fly with me (teehee.) The level of risk is not even remotely the same.

The TSA can suck my nuts. BS security theater. 

6 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

I agree that even fully realized this likely isn't going to be a total game changer when it comes to the course of the pandemic, but man an easily accessible oral duration/severity reducing med would be really nice. 

Yeah it's basically the convenience factor of being able to swing by CVS and scoop up a bottle of these when you start feeling that tickle in your throat. Much easier than having to drive farther to a clinic/hospital to get an IV infusion of mAbs.

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I'm not crazy about the TSA and the justifications used for its genesis, but my chances of getting covid on a plane are orders of magnitude higher than someone trying to hijack it. This one seems like it should be a slam dunk but nearly half of the senate is representing a death cult so I take nothing for granted anymore.

Just remember that once you significantly further reduce air travel, there is a ripple economic effect that will create a whole slew of other unintended consequences that could be worse than the risk of getting infected with Covid (or Gd knows what else you can get infected with in flight).  There was a spike in suicides along with illness and death from other non-Covid causes during the lockdowns, not to mention countless businesses and livelihoods ruined.

I do have to give a big shout out to the docs, nurses, techs that are still caring for patients with other issues during this pandemic.  They care, they take my concerns seriously and for that I am grateful!

I passed a mammogram and ultrasound this morning.  I don’t have to see that squishing my boobs machine for an entire year!!!   Only took 3 years!   Birads 2!!   Plus I reported pain which I have right now and I believe it’s from exercise of all things!  Cancer, puketober, and COVID be damned !!!  Getting a flu shot next week at the pharmacy.  Also free. 
 

At the cube in the office it’s freezing.  AC running around 72.  I think because a few  there are un vaxxed they are keeping the air moving ?  

1 hour ago, Procus said:

Just remember that once you significantly further reduce air travel, there is a ripple economic effect that will create a whole slew of other unintended consequences that could be worse than the risk of getting infected with Covid (or Gd knows what else you can get infected with in flight).  There was a spike in suicides along with illness and death from other non-Covid causes during the lockdowns, not to mention countless businesses and livelihoods ruined.

Thanks for your input Mr. NotAnAntivaxer. Sucks that your fellow trumpbots won't be able to fly soon. Maybe those poor flight attendants won't have to deal with so many belligerent idiots on their flights finally.