October 4, 20214 yr 12 hours ago, Procus said: Data from England showing that 63% of Covid deaths are among fully vaxxed over past 7.5 months according to Sen. Johnson. Sure, if we squint and believe your lies, this is true.
October 4, 20214 yr 53 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Sure, if we squint and believe your lies, this is true. Almost like he's lying. WSJ: Survey finds 640 coronavirus deaths in the first half of 2021 among people who had received two shots and more than 50,000 among those who hadn’t Base rate fallacy again. The vast majority of high risk individuals most likely to die from Covid are vaccinated, so it shouldn't be a surprise that even with vaccinations this group is going to contribute the most to death totals due to Delta's more contagious nature, compounded by the fact that many of these same individuals had their vaccinations 6+ mos ago at this point. Unfortunately in some cases it appears the vaccine decreases in efficacy over time, not to mention that some number of vaccinations may simply not take for whatever reason (a batch was spoiled, for example). There are a multitude of explanations for the numbers we're seeing, but those who want to believe the vaccine is unnecessary for political reasons will spin and lie about them.
October 4, 20214 yr Quote "How can I get hold of ivermectin in case I get sick?" is probably the most common email inquiry I receive daily. 🤣 I guess horses have email now.
October 4, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, Toastrel said: 🤣 I guess horses have email now. Quick way to tell if someone's brainwashed is to watch them incessantly repeats braindead ishlib talking points repetitively.
October 4, 20214 yr 2 New Mexicans have died of Ivermectin toxicity, state health officials say https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/2-new-mexicans-have-died-of-ivermectin-toxicity-state-health-officials-say/6246168/ Quote "We've had cases of seizures, hallucinations, coma, you know it can be very dangerous if you take a high enough dose,” said Susan Smolinske, director of New Mexico Drug and Information Center. Officials say the majority of those exposures happened in just the past few weeks, and most of them to treat or prevent COVID-19. Health experts say the data just isn't there to prove it works.
October 4, 20214 yr yeah an article from the blaze that also states this: Quote Vitamin D alone could have saved anyone who has gotten seriously ill recently, a year and a half after our government should have been encouraging people to take high-dose supplements. is totally reliable reporting.
October 4, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: yeah an article from the blaze that also states this: is totally reliable reporting. You could have at least added more context for the claim including the very next sentence: Quote There are now at least 113 studies vouching for the correlation between high vitamin D levels and positive outcomes. The results of a recent systematic review and meta-analysis of eight vitamin D studies showed that the risk of COVID mortality for people with D levels at 50 ng/ml is close to zero. Wow.
October 4, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Kz! said: You could have at least added more context for the claim including the very next sentence: Wow. studies stating healthier people tend to die less from COVID is hardly breaking news. making a statement that Vitamin D supplements would have "saved anyone who had gotten seriously ill" is a gross overstatement.
October 4, 20214 yr 13 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: yeah an article from the blaze that also states this: is totally reliable reporting. Is anyone taking Kz! as a source for reliable information?
October 4, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Is anyone taking Kz! as a source for reliable information? he needs to troll better. it's not even entertaining when he seems to be earnestly passing on BS.
October 4, 20214 yr Imagine letting these nerds run your life and dictate how you spend your holidays. Well, ishlibs don't have to imagine, but for the rest of us lmfao
October 4, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: studies stating healthier people tend to die less from COVID is hardly breaking news. making a statement that Vitamin D supplements would have "saved anyone who had gotten seriously ill" is a gross overstatement. Kinda funny to watch the rabid defenders of giant soda sizes and open buffets suddenly act like they are health nuts with regimens built around natural immunities. Politics makes strange bedfellows, I know (liberals have the hilarious truce between conservative black pastors and LGBTq+). But there has got to be none stranger than the granola crowd and the Shoney's Rewards Club banding together to decide there are microchips in vaccines..
October 4, 20214 yr Starting to see a widespread outbreak in our district elementary schools. Multiple kids in my kids class, and throughout every grade level in K-5. Middle schools aren’t seeing that. Could it be that vaccines work?
October 4, 20214 yr On 10/3/2021 at 10:17 AM, Procus said: Notice the disclaimer that Twitter felt obligated to attach to this tweet. Twitter also forbids sharing the tweet on twitter and it may delete the tweet, hence the screenshot. I also gave link is to the actual obit. Good morning everybody, and Go Eagles! https://obits.oregonlive.com/us/obituaries/oregon/name/jessica-wilson-obituary?pid=200278331 This was circulating around my wife's hospital. The entire thing stinks of fake news clickbait
October 4, 20214 yr 38 minutes ago, DBW said: Starting to see a widespread outbreak in our district elementary schools. Multiple kids in my kids class, and throughout every grade level in K-5. Middle schools aren’t seeing that. Could it be that vaccines work? Interesting. Anecdotally, in my district the middle schools seem worse than elementary schools. Is it because middle schools are larger and change classes, putting more kids in close contact with each other? There is less outbreak in high schools.
October 4, 20214 yr 17 minutes ago, toolg said: Interesting. Anecdotally, in my district the middle schools seem worse than elementary schools. Is it because middle schools are larger and change classes, putting more kids in close contact with each other? There is less outbreak in high schools. Could be larger classes and changing classes with crowded hallways. Our kids have to wear masks too. In the elementary school, There’s literally half of my wife’s class out with Covid right now.
October 4, 20214 yr 47 minutes ago, Gannan said: This was circulating around my wife's hospital. The entire thing stinks of fake news clickbait https://www.acc.org/latest-in-cardiology/articles/2021/04/01/01/42/vaccine-induced-thrombotic-thrombocytopenia-vitt-and-covid-19-vaccines Quote To date (June 8, 2021), this condition has not been reported in patients who have received the Moderna or Pfizer COVID-19 vaccines. ... The incidence of VITT is not certain, but it appears to be extremely rare. A recent report in JACC found that cerebral vein thrombosis occurred in 3.6 per million people after the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine and 0.9 per million people after Johnson & Johnson vaccine. For comparison, the rate of cerebral vein thrombosis is estimated at 207 per million in patients hospitalized with COVID-19 and 2.4 per million in the general population. The risk of death and serious outcomes of COVID-19 (including thrombosis) far outweigh the small risk of VITT. So the incidence rate after a J&J vaccine (assuming she didn't somehow get the AZ vaccine) is less than the incidence for the general population, and 200x less than that of those hospitalized with COVID-19. It's certainly possible that VITT is more common than is reported considering how few J&J vaccines have actually been given. If this woman got Moderna or Pfizer then there's no basis thus far on which to make the claim that the condition was vaccine-induced. Of course it's incredibly sad when someone dies of a rare disease, and it's natural to lash out at whatever you think may have caused it. But it's also not impossible that this was coincidental with her vaccination. A small number of people among the general population die of this every year historically, and it's not impossible to think that among the 100s or so who appear to develop this condition each year that one or two will have gotten a recent COVID vaccination. When you're dealing with millions of people, those sorts of things happen.
October 4, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Gannan said: This was circulating around my wife's hospital. The entire thing stinks of fake news clickbait There's an actual link to the funeral home website. https://obits.oregonlive.com/us/obituaries/oregon/name/jessica-wilson-obituary?pid=200278331
October 4, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, Dawkins 20 said: There's an actual link to the funeral home website. https://obits.oregonlive.com/us/obituaries/oregon/name/jessica-wilson-obituary?pid=200278331 yeah it doesn't appear to be fake, but it's still in pretty bad taste to use a wife and mother's obituary to make a political statement.
October 4, 20214 yr I think there actually is a risk to getting the vaccine. But there’s a lot more of a risk to not getting the vaccine. And I think reasonably intelligent adults are able to assess the risk and get vaccinated.
October 4, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: I think there actually is a risk to getting the vaccine. But there’s a lot more of a risk to not getting the vaccine. And I think reasonably intelligent adults are able to assess the risk and get vaccinated. There's a reason most of these mandates have medical exemptions. There are rare but legitimate reasons why a doctor may advise against a vaccination in individual cases. Every medical decision we make represents a trade-off between risk and reward to keep our bodies animate as long as possible. Unfortunately some of these decisions also impact others in the aggregate, so in these instances we individually support the public policies we think best balance those.
October 4, 20214 yr This dork literally went from "IDK if you can spend time with family this Christmas" to "Sure, do it" in like 24 hours: And people wonder why most reflexively roll their eyes and do a dismissive wanking gesture whenever his name comes up.
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