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10 minutes ago, RLC said:

Aiyuk at 21 would be awful. 

Agreed -- pretty good speed, really good KR/PR, tracks the ball well -- but not a first round talent.

Aiyuk at #53 would be fine.

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12 minutes ago, RLC said:

Aiyuk at 21 would be awful. 

I would take him at 31 assuming the top 4 WR's are gone at 21.

Just now, ManuManu said:

I really like him, but 21 feels early. Based on fit, I’d rank him probably fifth in the WR class. If I felt better about Jefferson as an outside WR, he’d be fourth with Reagor fifth. 

If there are 4-5 WR's already gone by 21, I'd have a hard time trading back and assuming I'd get him (or any of the remaining WR's on my board) at 53.

I'm telling ya, this year, with so many teams going off tape as opposed to in person testing, in a so called 'great WR draft'... I think they are going to go fast.  Might as well get ours.

25 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

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I don't know exactly what they are offering... but I do know that they are going above and beyond in terms of what is required.  As much as they can... fresh milk, fresh juice, fresh veggies... 

 

It's not the greatest, but it's as much as they can do.  They have busses delivering to the local elementary schools and have a 'driving circle' set up for distribution.  Minimal contact.

27 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

OK...that makes sense. I just don't want the craziness of the NBA creeping into the NFL I don't want a whiff of sketchiness with  teams to start collaborating under the table to get around rules. "you take my guy for less value for future considerations" etc I think your interpretation clears all of that up. 

If they want to stop it, they'd have to have a rule written about it at a League meeting... likely coming through the Competition Committee or the full owners group.

The Eagles are in trouble if Aiyuk is the only component added to the offense this offseason, plus some mid round WR projects.  And that goes for whether they reach for him 21 or if they get "great value" for him in a slide to 53.

13 hours ago, T-1000 said:

Going from the ''old board'' to new ''board'' is kind of trippy, like a slightly different universe version.

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28 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

OK. I think I have my tiny brain wrapped around that. Thanks. 
 

Ultimately, I still don’t think a trade happens because of his injuries and the fact there’s a global pandemic that makes some uncertainties more uncertain. 
 

I also don’t like the idea of losing draft capital to dump salary. If it involved moving back a few spots, nbd, but a whole round or 2, naw. 
 

Howie is supposed to be a cap genius. He’ll get it figured out by 2021. 

it depends on how steep the price is.  $10M on the cap is a significant chunk of savings...

The tough part of evaluating a lot of these second and third tier WRs of this draft class is that we haven't seen them play against significant competition, and we haven't seen them play against much press coverage. Certainly not any good press coverage. It's a huge part of the game in the NFL and not at all in college, so trying to make that adjustment is tough for evaluaters to predict. 

Of the round 1 outcomes that have been published/discussed/considered likely, there are only 4 that I could really find palatable.  In order of preference:

1. Draft Ruggs at 21

2. Trade down, pick up capital, draft Reagor late round 1.

3. Trade up for Ruggs

4. Draft Reagor at 21.

I find every other round 1 outcome either sufficiently unlikely or excessively nauseating.  

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

The Eagles are in trouble if Aiyuk is the only component added to the offense this offseason, plus some mid round WR projects.  And that goes for whether they reach for him 21 or if they get "great value" for him in a slide to 53.

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5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Of the round 1 outcomes that have been published/discussed/considered likely, there are only 4 that I could really find palatable.  In order of preference:

1. Draft Ruggs at 21

2. Trade down, pick up capital, draft Reagor late round 1.

3. Trade up for Ruggs

4. Draft Reagor at 21.

I find every other round 1 outcome either sufficiently unlikely or excessively nauseating.  

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8 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

The tough part of evaluating a lot of these second and third tier WRs of this draft class is that we haven't seen them play against significant competition, and we haven't seen them play against much press coverage. Certainly not any good press coverage. It's a huge part of the game in the NFL and not at all in college, so trying to make that adjustment is tough for evaluaters to predict. 

I get what you're saying, but an exception is Pittman Jr. shredding Utah last season for 10/232/1, who was the 6th ranked defense in the nation. USC also had their backup QB in for that game as well. My ceiling comp for him is Mike Evans and both of them put up similar stats in their final year in college. 

14 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

The Eagles are in trouble if Aiyuk is the only component added to the offense this offseason, plus some mid round WR projects.  And that goes for whether they reach for him 21 or if they get "great value" for him in a slide to 53.

People will be hopping on the Antonio Brown with me. 

25 minutes ago, Green Dog said:

If there are 4-5 WR's already gone by 21, I'd have a hard time trading back and assuming I'd get him (or any of the remaining WR's on my board) at 53.

I'm telling ya, this year, with so many teams going off tape as opposed to in person testing, in a so called 'great WR draft'... I think they are going to go fast.  Might as well get ours.

I'm going opposite. The run on WR's is going to start with the Eagles. If teams really think this class is deep they will wait on them until late 1st early 2nd. T's and CB's are going to go lightening quick because it is a very top heavy draft at both positions. Teams always need 0-Linemen and there is a big drop off after the top 5 or so.

1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

People will be hopping on the Antonio Brown with me. 

No they won't.

1 minute ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I get what you're saying, but an exception is Pittman Jr. shredding Utah last season for 10/232/1, who was the 6th ranked defense in the nation. USC also had their backup QB in for that game as well. My ceiling comp for him is Mike Evans and both of them put up similar stats in their final year in college. 

I really like Pittman...forgot to add him to scenarios, just tough to see where good value for him is.  I think Round 2 is too high but he won't make it to our 3rd round pick.

Reagor and Pittman could be quite the duo.  Keep Ward in the slot plus Djack and that's a formidable WR group.  

Caplan just said that Reagor could go at 19 if Ruggs is off the board.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

I really like Pittman...forgot to add him to scenarios, just tough to see where good value for him is.  I think Round 2 is too high but he won't make it to our 3rd round pick.

Reagor and Pittman could be quite the duo.  Keep Ward in the slot plus Djack and that's a formidable WR group.  

I tried to like Pittman.   Just didn't say anything there.

 

Tell me why you are so high on him.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

No they won't.

I didn’t say everyone. Give it one preseason game. As long AB stays quiet, I’m fine committing to a minimal investment 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

I tried to like Pittman.   Just didn't say anything there.

 

Tell me why you are so high on him.

To me he seems like a young Alshon.  I want speed but he plays a physical game.  He's got great bloodlines.  His dad was a workout warrior who lasted quite a bit in the league and I don't think you can overlook small things like that.  Compare him to Higgins who I think plays a similar game and I see more desire to be the best out of Pittman.  I wouldn't take him above the 3rd round but I think he has talent. 

I'd only want him if they got one of the top WR or Reagor.  He needs to be teamed up with a speed WR.  I don't want big slow WR across the board.

I get the feeling that the Eagles are really doing their homework on trade down option WRs.  

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