2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Pedey and Wentz... the correct move was to get the BOTH some players to work with.    It's irrelevant how either performed last year...  when they had the players , they made it work as the best team in the league from start to finish in 2017... and took a below average group to the playoffs in 2019. 

Nobody will ever convince me that either one of them was not good enough.    101% the front office' s fault for not giving them the players.  

Actually Pedey was better without Wentz record wise. Not to let facts get in the way.

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m just pointing out that we did make the postseason. That was your point. Wentz just wasn’t a part of that.

Would anyone take this post to mean anything other than Wentz didn’t help us make the postseason?   How would you read it?   You don't mention anything about playing in the postseason, just making it.

AZ going down

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

No hope for Hurts in the NFL... Canada might be an option.

Be an upgrade from Siri ‘offense’ . I’m fine if we can figure out a way to convince Watson to come play here. Not sure what your brilliant idea is at QB. I just didn’t see giving up what it would take to get in the top three this last year. SF paid a bunch for Lance. Sketchy at best. I was never much of a Fields fan. Pats QB is a smart leader. Limited talent wise. But everything isn’t huge arm.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Actually Pedey was better without Wentz record wise. Not to let facts get in the way.

Ziggy was better than Lane... let's see how this turns out.    Convenient for you though... Wentz played for Doug when the team was crap... but those games in 17-18 he missed.  

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Would anyone take this post to mean anything other than Wentz didn’t help us make the postseason?   How would you read it?   You don't mention anything about playing in the postseason, just making it.

I was answering FL post saying we had to make the postseason first. So I pointed out we did….three times.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Pats QB is a smart leader. Limited talent wise. But everything isn’t huge arm.

Mmmmmm sounds like our guy yet I’d say Mac Jones still has a better arm then Hurts definitely more accurate 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Be an upgrade from Siri ‘offense’ . I’m fine if we can figure out a way to convince Watson to come play here. Not sure what your brilliant idea is at QB. I just didn’t see giving up what it would take to get in the top three this last year. SF paid a bunch for Lance. Sketchy at best. I was never much of a Fields fan. Pats QB is a smart leader. Limited talent wise. But everything isn’t huge arm.

My brilliant idea is that right now it's a lost cause.  Hurts was never the answer.   It was obvious to people who didn't have " I hate Wentz" blinders. 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I was answering FL post saying we had to make the postseason first. So I pointed out we did….three times.

And Wentz was the main reason for 2 of those 

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not sure what your brilliant idea is at QB. I just didn’t see giving up what it would take to get in the top three this last year.

Well considering it’s looking like we will have two top 5 picks come the 2022 draft trading up for a QB won’t be an issue hell the way Miami is playing and Detroit looking like they are about to get a win we could get the #1 pick 

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ziggy was better than Lane... let's see how this turns out.    Convenient for you though... Wentz played for Doug when the team was crap... but those games in 17-18 he missed.  

Anybody that saw Ziggy talked about how special a pass rusher he was. Him playing injured for his team ruining his shoulder career is some crappy Lions management stuff. But yep, guy didn’t do much in the postseason because he was hurt(and a Lion) just like Wentz.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Anybody that saw Ziggy talked about how special a pass rusher he was. Him playing injured for his team ruining his shoulder career is some crappy Lions management stuff. But yep, guy didn’t do much in the postseason because he was hurt(and a Lion) just like Wentz.

And more importantly wasn’t better then Lane Johnson 

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Mmmmmm sounds like our guy yet I’d say Mac Jones still has a better arm then Hurts definitely more accurate 

Not in our offense. He’d look like a bum. I actually thought the Niners were taking him.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not in our offense. He’d look like a bum. I actually thought the Niners were taking him.

No I’d image Mac would look fine with Siri and would fit way better then him he fits Siri and the things Siri likes wouldn’t be catering to a QB like Hurts like now 

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

And more importantly wasn’t better then Lane Johnson 

Which was the whole point he was trying to make for years.  

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

And more importantly wasn’t better then Lane Johnson 

I still have no problem with Ziggy on that pick. If we just sat him and didn’t destroy him playing injured he’d dominated for years. Lane turned out pretty good. Some suspensions. The whole I guess pain killer addiction issue…whatever. Had plenty of  really dominant moments 

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not in our offense. He’d look like a bum. I actually thought the Niners were taking him.

Not shocking 49ers took Lance he had the highest ceiling of the QBs only 20 and they had Jimmy G they could still use and let Lance grow into the job…. Think with Kyle Lance is going to be a dangerous player 

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

No I’d image Mac would look fine with Siri and would fit way better then him he fits Siri and the things Siri likes wouldn’t be catering to a QB like Hurts like now 

Go down with the Siri ship. I’m not throwing you a life vest. Take Gannon with you.

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Not shocking 49ers took Lance he had the highest ceiling of the QBs only 20 and they had Jimmy G they could still use and let Lance grow into the job…. Think with Kyle Lance is going to be a dangerous player 

So is that what we should have done? What’s been your brilliant plan for a QB for us? 

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

No I’d image Mac would look fine with Siri and would fit way better then him he fits Siri and the things Siri likes wouldn’t be catering to a QB like Hurts like now 

I don't think Ham gets the obvious that we have to run this style offense due to the QB. Obvious to the rest of the world... but Ham will die on that hill.  Wentz could win 3 SBs and Hurts could never play again after this season... it won't matter.

I would have given those picks up for Trevor Lawrence. But that’s it

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I still have no problem with Ziggy on that pick. If we just sat him and didn’t destroy him playing injured he’d dominated for years. Lane turned out pretty good. Some suspensions. The whole I guess pain killer addiction issue…whatever. Had plenty of  really dominant moments 

Yup had some issues early in his career and adddiction especially pain killers not that uncommon in the nfl…. Farve used to pop them like candy throughout his career, Jason Taylor did some crap throughout his career as well difference though social media era we are in and a higher focus on players mental health 

Just now, joemas6 said:

I don't think Ham gets the obvious that we have to run this style offense due to the QB. Obvious to the rest of the world... but Ham will die on that hill.  Wentz could win 3 SBs and Hurts could never play again after this season... it won't matter.

Except we started the game not running ‘this’ offense and things looked great. Traditional run and playaction pass. And we have to not run the ball because our QB is limited? How does that work?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Go down with the Siri ship. I’m not throwing you a life vest. Take Gannon with you.

I’m not going down on the Siri ship and I’m not going down on the Hurts ship either but don’t worry won’t give you the life vest either….

If I recall you were super excited about Gannon how he should have been the HC way better then Siri damn how quick you turned on him 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Go down with the Siri ship. I’m not throwing you a life vest. Take Gannon with you.

We've been under water since 2019... where both the former coach and QB kept the ship afloat.  The front office took a sledgehammer to the boat last year... Siri already came aboard while under water.   He has no chance here. 

Rasul Douglas seals the game with the int in the end zone