Not a real fan of Billy Davis but can’t just blame him for everything. Think the offense used up all the aggressive. Think his mandate was pretty well set in stone. Team philosophy was completely setup around the O.

1 minute ago, Asg 15 said:

As i said right after the draft. It was a bad draft for Eagles fans.

Nothing to complain about.

The C we took was a round early by most estimates

Trading up for two down run stuffer is something we, as Eagles fans, absolutely aren’t conditioned for.

I haven’t been a huge fan of the trade back with the Saints. We have a solid young core of players building together. We’ll see how the season unfolds. If we win our division have a home playoff game and win it…..then you’ll have to be thinking about what that other first round pick utilized to help this squad and going forward could have brought.

Falcons release Mike Davis

I know Kelce championed our C pick. But I question whether he was even the top Interior Oline available.

Gave up a ton to move up two spots for Davis. Wasn’t cheap at all. Price was steep for us by most trade charts. Guy came off the field on passing downs.

Then you get into us making this whole switch to 3-4 when most don’t think our DC will be here more than one more season.

If Hamilton becomes the complete stud S I believe he is there is plenty of room to complain about blowing getting him.

I also will add that many reports just before the draft had us trading up for Davis. So we have a leak. We lost key guys right before the draft. So maybe that’s some of the sources. It is pretty weak that you can lose guys that inside just before the draft.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/early-look-at-2023-nfl-draft-qb-prospects-bryce-young-cj-stroud/?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Top+QBs+in+the+2023+NFL+Draft+Class&utm_campaign=NFL+365+-+5%2F2%2F22

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/best-landing-spots-for-top-remaining-free-agents-after-nfl-draft-kevin-king-to-eagles-jadeveon-clowney-back-to-browns/

40 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You can still be conservative and back a guy off the line to cover. But it makes the offense have to account for it as a rusher. Giving the rushers very potential one on one matchups.

Right...this is why I liked the move 9 years ago.   The problem was the DC at the time ( I forget his name)  was never aggressive.   So there was no threat of the blitz.

The Blitzburgh D and our D under Jim Johnson blitzed way less than the perception.   The threat of the blitz I'm many ways is more impact full than the actual blitz.

I like the structure and the concept... it's just up to Gannon now to use it correctly and make opposing offenses concerned about the extra rusher(s)

44 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Old Billy

Davis

Oh geez... moving on..lol.   

35 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not a real fan of Billy Davis but can’t just blame him for everything. Think the offense used up all the aggressive. Think his mandate was pretty well set in stone. Team philosophy was completely setup around the O.

The C we took was a round early by most estimates

You can blitz on defense....has nothing to do with offense.  He doesn't get less blame from me... 3 years of that crap. 

29 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I know Kelce championed our C pick. But I question whether he was even the top Interior Oline available.

Gave up a ton to move up two spots for Davis. Wasn’t cheap at all. Price was steep for us by most trade charts. Guy came off the field on passing downs.

Then you get into us making this whole switch to 3-4 when most don’t think our DC will be here more than one more season.

Why won't our DC be here for more than one season?  Even if he goes, why can't the next guy run a 3-4?  

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/5–2_defense

The 5–2 (or 5–4, or 3–4, or Okie, or 50 defense) is a popular defense at all levels of coaching, in part because it has simple reads, is easy to coach, and allows coaches to concentrate on technique.^[14] By the 1990s, however, coaches were having issues with the demands of finding players who could handle the nose guard and defensive tackle positions of this defense. These require "two gap" players of exceptional size and power.^[15] Further, the "read then react" nature of the defense made it doubly difficult for teams of smaller size.^[16] As a consequence, teams began switching back to more modern four man line defenses,

34 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I haven’t been a huge fan of the trade back with the Saints. We have a solid young core of players building together. We’ll see how the season unfolds. If we win our division have a home playoff game and win it…..then you’ll have to be thinking about what that other first round pick utilized to help this squad and going forward could have brought.

Not really.   Build and move forward.  Not about just this year for the team.  This is the QB is the focus and he got the best player that was acquired during the draft.   

If he works out, they have the assets to keep building.  You do that trade every year. 

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Right...this is why I liked the move 9 years ago.   The problem was the DC at the time ( I forget his name)  was never aggressive.   So there was no threat of the blitz.

The Blitzburgh D and our D under Jim Johnson blitzed way less than the perception.   The threat of the blitz I'm many ways is more impact full than the actual blitz.

I like the structure and the concept... it's just up to Gannon now to use it correctly and make opposing offenses concerned about the extra rusher(s)

For his one more season here

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The 5–2 (or 5–4, or 3–4, or Okie, or 50 defense) is a popular defense at all levels of coaching, in part because it has simple reads, is easy to coach, and allows coaches to concentrate on technique.^[14] By the 1990s, however, coaches were having issues with the demands of finding players who could handle the nose guard and defensive tackle positions of this defense. These require "two gap" players of exceptional size and power.^[15] Further, the "read then react" nature of the defense made it doubly difficult for teams of smaller size.^[16] As a consequence, teams began switching back to more modern four man line defenses,

Good stuff... and I would add...look at the successful teams from the late 90s into 2000s.   GB had Gilbert Brown on the nose.... Baltimore, Steelers, New England ran a 3-4 with some studs at NT. Hampton,  Ngata and Wilfork.    It is what it is.  

38 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I haven’t been a huge fan of the trade back with the Saints. We have a solid young core of players building together. We’ll see how the season unfolds. If we win our division have a home playoff game and win it…..then you’ll have to be thinking about what that other first round pick utilized to help this squad and going forward could have brought.

We needed the extra 1 to go after a QB next year,there will be a few we can get with NP(although maybe not the top 2)

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

For his one more season here

Where is he going?

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You can blitz on defense....has nothing to do with offense.  He doesn't get less blame from me... 3 years of that crap. 

Chipper’s O had a massive effect on the D. Never seen an O put a D with one foot deeper in a hole.

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Why won't our DC be here for more than one season?  Even if he goes, why can't the next guy run a 3-4?  

I’d expect we already are running a short list of Gannon’s successor that will run a 3-4. Better be…anyway.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Chipper’s O had a massive effect on the D. Never seen an O put a D with one foot deeper in a hole.

Yeah....so blitz and get off the field...you see how that works?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I’d expect we already are running a short list of Gannon’s successor that will run a 3-4. Better be…anyway.

Why?   

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Chipper’s O had a massive effect on the D. Never seen an O put a D with one foot deeper in a hole.

Hurts

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We needed the extra 1 to go after a QB next year,there will be a few we can get with NP(although maybe not the top 2)

Huge leap after the top two….to whomever you are championing at this point. Rattler benched for a Freshman and disgraced and run out of town to the sound of boos hardly gets me excited about him.

Ham.... " I question Siri and Gannon"   then Ham " Gannon is leaving this year"  

??????   Why the extremes?   I think any time you have a coordinator... you should have a possibility that they guy will be interviewed for a head coaching job.   But in the same thought..to both question his ability as a coordinator and think he will be highly sought after doesn't make sense?